Bougya What are possiblities All Supreme Grade are Cursed

[Cruxroux]

- I know some believe there are no cursed Blades.
- Some do.
- Cursed blades are Basically Swords with a Will of their own. And they are Awakened Zoans. If You can't control it , they control you.

- Mihawk , Roger , Whitebeard and Nasujuro might have mastered the Blade or may have Bent Swords to their own will with Strong Conqueror.

- About Fujitora , it was Said he blinded himself because he couldn't see the atrocities in the world.
What if Fujitora couldn't sit back after all the atrocities in the world and took a gamble like zoro. With the sword but Lost and lost both of his eyes in return. But in return Gained the Favour of sword. Which he uses in Mixture with Zushi Zushi no Mi.

- Zoro has a Eye scar as well. What if Zoro tried to Unleash the Real shusui Powers , Like Enma has King of Hell mode... Ashura is speculated to be full unleashed mode of Sandai...
We are yet to see something of Wado , though I assume that be Something to be related to Harmony , Serenity , enlightenment and breath of all things...

But unleashing shusui when Zoro wasn't strong enough and he faced consequences to that losing an eye.
Because of which , Zoro "never went all out" in post time skip , Until Kaidou and King.

Or maybe Zoro tried to Mess up with Yoru when Mihawk wasn't looking lol.

 

[Salah WG]

If a Bad Driver had an Accident with a Car, it doesn't mean the Car was Cursed or the Car was Controlling him
The Car is created to move & function in a certain way with certain capabilities & limits
If you don't Drive it properly, then obviously it will look like you're losing Control & probably get an Ugly End

Same thing for Weapons in One Piece, They are neither Cursed nor do They Control their Wielder
It's just that each Weapon is created for certain Level of Fighters to accomplish certain Level of Tasks

So if the Wielder is Weaker than what's needed or is unable to accomplish what the Weapon can Potentially do, then They won't control it well, and eventually end up biting off more than They can chew, and that Weapon will be labeled "Cursed" by such Weaklings

Supreme Meito are No Exception, They aren't Cursed & They perform as Expected as long as their Wielders are Powerful/Skilled enough.
And so far All Supreme Grade Wielders are clearly Very Powerful & Skilled, no reason to assume They are struggling

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Not all blades are cursed or try to impose themselves on the wielder, it's something that doesn't have to do with the grade. Zoro had trouble using Enma, Momonosuke can walk around with Ame no Habakiri.

 

[Cruxroux]

If a Bad Driver had an Accident with a Car, it doesn't mean the Car was Cursed or the Car was Controlling him
The Car is created to move & function in a certain way with certain capabilities & limits
If you don't Drive it properly, then obviously it will look like you're losing Control & probably get an Ugly End

Same thing for Weapons in One Piece, They are neither Cursed nor do They Control their Wielder
It's just that each Weapon is created for certain Level of Fighters to accomplish certain Level of Tasks

So if the Wielder is Weaker than what's needed or is unable to accomplish what the Weapon can Potentially do, then They won't control it well, and eventually end up biting off more than They can chew, and that Weapon will be labeled "Cursed" by such Weaklings

Supreme Meito are No Exception, They aren't Cursed & They perform as Expected as long as their Wielders are Powerful/Skilled enough.
And so far All Supreme Grade Wielders are clearly Very Powerful & Skilled, no reason to assume They are struggling

They were not always that strong.
They had to the weapon itself.
Cars don't have a will , Cars automatically demands User attention and threatens to kill them.

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Not all blades are cursed or try to impose themselves on the wielder, it's something that doesn't have to do with the grade. Zoro had trouble using Enma, Momonosuke can walk around with Ame no Habakiri.

- Then why is Roger and Newgate weapon are still at their grave. Why is nobody using it.
- Ame no habakiri is not even cursed. What's your point?

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

- Then why is Roger and Newgate weapon are still at their grave. Why is nobody using it.
- Ame no habakiri is not even cursed. What's your point?

Even if they were cursed, there are clearly people who can use a cursed blade. Or they could just put it in their vault. Same reason why the Navy didn't deface the tombs, we don't know.
My point is that a high ranking blade is not necessarily cursed.

 

[Cruxroux]

Even if they were cursed, there are clearly people who can use a cursed blade. Or they could just put it in their vault. Same reason why the Navy didn't deface the tombs, we don't know.
My point is that a high ranking blade is not necessarily cursed.

But we know from Kozaburo a Swordsmith telling us , Cursed swords are just Blades with their own will. They choose their own masters.
Which is why nobody gets their hands on Supreme grade sword easily.

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

But we know from Kozaburo a Swordsmith telling us , Cursed swords are just Blades with their own will. They choose their own masters.
Which is why nobody gets their hands on Supreme grade sword easily.

Nobody does because they are just 12, they are likely expensive and often they are in the hand of top-tiers. Difficult to get one.

 

[nik87]

Asura being unleashed mode of Sandai is a theory that didn't age well.
Asura is a manifestation of Zoro's desire to be stronger.

Also, Kozaburo said there is no such thing as cursed blades.
Just weak people who cannot handle them properly end up calling them cursed because they lack strength.

The chances are very high that we will never see a weapon with a wilder temper than Enma.
Because from EOS perspective, Enma, Wado and Sandai are the strongest weapons in the world.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

- Then why is Roger and Newgate weapon are still at their grave. Why is nobody using it.

Because WB's weapon is in Sphinx island under Marco's protection?

And we don't know where Roger's Ace is.

The chances are very high that we will never see a weapon with a wilder temper than Enma.
Because from EOS perspective, Enma, Wado and Sandai are the strongest weapons in the world.

Then why is enma not supreme grade?

Enma having the haki sucking ability is special to enma only lol

If there are no cursed blades, then any sword above Great Grade should have the same exact haki sucking ability.

 

[Cruxroux]

Because WB's weapon is in Sphinx island under Marco's protection?

And we don't know where Roger's Ace is.

And is marco is supposed to be a threat to strong people?

 

[MonochromeYoru]

And is marco is supposed to be a threat to strong people?

Who else but a top tier is beating him?

And any top tier that would be interested in a weapon like that already has a supreme grade weapon.

Shank, Mihawk, Fuji, Ethan etc etc

 

[nik87]

Then why is enma not supreme grade?

Enma having the haki sucking ability is special to enma only lol

If there are no cursed blades, then any sword above Great Grade should have the same exact haki sucking ability.

It will be a supreme grade. As I said, you have to look at this from EOS perspective.
Yes.
Why would they? Wado is the same rank as Enma and has nothing compared to Enma's gimmick.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Why would they? Wado is the same rank as Enma and has nothing compared to Enma's gimmick.

That's kind of my point.

This simple fact completely rejects Kozaburo's "there are no cursed blades" talk.

Cause Enma and Wado are same rank and built by the same dude. Yet one of them has a special ability that acts as a curse.

So... Kozaburo was wrong. There are cursed blades. Almost sentient blades that require the user to be at a certain level to satisfy them

 

[nik87]

That's kind of my point.

This simple fact completely rejects Kozaburo's "there are no cursed blades" talk.

Cause Enma and Wado are same rank and built by the same dude. Yet one of them has a special ability that acts as a curse.

So... Kozaburo was wrong. There are cursed blades. Almost sentient blades that require the user to be at a certain level to satisfy them

As Kozaburo explained, the reason why they are called cursed is because people lacked strength to wield them.
Nobody is placing curses onto swords... lol Why Enma has a temper while Wado doesn't is not something we can figure out...

Some swords do have a personality of their own and test the user, as Enma does but there is no guarantee that any Supreme grade is same or even with a nastier temper than Enma...
I don't think we should give too much attention to this because it is a just a flavor of the month that never gets brought up again...

 

[Peroroncino]

That's kind of my point.

This simple fact completely rejects Kozaburo's "there are no cursed blades" talk.

Cause Enma and Wado are same rank and built by the same dude. Yet one of them has a special ability that acts as a curse.

So... Kozaburo was wrong. There are cursed blades. Almost sentient blades that require the user to be at a certain level to satisfy them

sucking haki is how enma tests it's wielders, remember they have personalities and their personalities differ, sandai kitetsu used to test zoro by cutting more than it needed to, but then it stopped after zoro earned it's approval same with enma who stopped sucking

 

[MonochromeYoru]

sucking haki is how enma tests it's wielders, remember they have personalities and their personalities differ, sandai kitetsu used to test zoro by cutting more than it needed to, but then it stopped after zoro earned it's approval same with enma who stopped sucking

Bro it's a curse lol

Kozaburo's being a pedantic bitch about semantics.

If a sword has abilities that negatively affect users unless they're strong enough, its basically a curse for 99.99% of the people.

Like, it's a magic sword.

Saying "enma's just testing the user" doesn't explain shit lol. Do other weapons in the op world "test" people? No.

A curse is just an unexplainable negative effect to the common man.

The way to avoid the curse is to be strong enough that it doesn't affect you.

 

[Peroroncino]

Bro it's a curse lol

Kozaburo's being a pedantic bitch about semantics.

If a sword has abilities that negatively affect users unless they're strong enough, its basically a curse for 99.99% of the people.

Like, it's a magic sword.

Saying "enma's just testing the user" doesn't explain shit lol. Do other weapons in the op world "test" people? No.

A curse is just an unexplainable negative effect to the common man.

The way to avoid the curse is to be strong enough that it doesn't affect you.

oda literally spelled out to us, that there are no such thing as cursed blades omg this fucking fandom the abilities is the blades personality acting up not curses this isn't JJK, also zoro literally said enma was testing him and it was his strength that was lacking, once again spelled out for us but you are incapable of understanding it.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

oda literally spelled out to us, that there are no such thing as cursed blades omg this fucking fandom the abilities is the blades personality acting up not curses this isn't JJK, also zoro literally said enma was testing him and it was his strength that was lacking, once again spelled out for us but you are incapable of understanding it.

Bro...

All im sating is, the supposed "special abilities" of the blades are curses themselves to the general public.

You compared Sandai being a sharper cutting blade right? A cursed blade with a special ability.

Enma has haki sucking.


If there are no "cursed blades", then every single fucking blades should have some kind of ability like that. But do they?

Does Wado have ANY special ability like that? Did Wado, a blade with the same fucking rank as enma, test 11 year old zoro and deem him worthy? Did it try sucking zoro's nonexistent haki and was satisfied?

There are blades that have special abilities. Those manifest as a negative trait for those that aren't strong enough, but as positive traits if you can master them.

The special abilities are the curse.

Kozaburo is arguing semantics. But that fucker himself created wado and enma. One clearly has a "curse" and other is normal.

 

[Daikenki]

Legendary Swordsmith who has dedicated his whole life on forging swords literally said there's no such thing as cursed blade is somehow wrong about his own sword he forged LMAO

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Bro...

All im sating is, the supposed "special abilities" of the blades are curses themselves to the general public.

You compared Sandai being a sharper cutting blade right? A cursed blade with a special ability.

Enma has haki sucking.


If there are no "cursed blades", then every single fucking blades should have some kind of ability like that. But do they?

Does Wado have ANY special ability like that? Did Wado, a blade with the same fucking rank as enma, test 11 year old zoro and deem him worthy? Did it try sucking zoro's nonexistent haki and was satisfied?

There are blades that have special abilities. Those manifest as a negative trait for those that aren't strong enough, but as positive traits if you can master them.

The special abilities are the curse.

Kozaburo is arguing semantics. But that fucker himself created wado and enma. One clearly has a "curse" and other is normal.

cry seethe cope about it retard, your yapping is worthless to the words of the swordsmith who forged the sword

 

[MonochromeYoru]

Legendary Swordsmith who has dedicated his whole life on forging swords literally said there's no such thing as cursed blade is somehow wrong about his own sword he forged LMAO

enma

Wado

Same grade blades.

I wonder if there's any difference between those two blades?. Whether only one of them has a sentient blade that checks the haki level/strength level of the user, and the other one can be used by literal toddlers?.



Nah. couldn't be. Oda totally isn't capable of contradicting his own words