Powers & Abilities What are Zoro's asura and Sanji's jambe? Can others do it?

[Chrono]

i'm using the explanations oda gave us for it ,friction,emotions and lunarian powers when combining all of them his leg burns hotter

What need is lunarian powers if Sanji uses friction or vice versa ?

 

[cleanmrpostman]

It doesnt. The drug is like a DF and Sanji was born with. Sanji has completely control over it. Its not like he has to bring out a specific weapon, use a specific technique etc to create flame. He bursts into flames whenever he wants.

Foxfire is sword technique that allows. Kinemon cant create flames without his sword or techniques. I forgot about Albert and Meme is a DF user. And thats why I stated Nika fruit numpty.

Yes creating flames from your body is rare only Lunarians and Sanji can do it without a DF. Thats why Queen thought Sanji was a Lunarian.

It's a trick whether Sanji wanted it or not. Luffy didn't eat his devil fruit intentionally, so do his fire abilities not count?

I referenced other fire abilities in the series to highlight how sanji's fire isn't rare or unique at the end of the day, no matter what criteria you put on it.

 

[kumae]

Sanji=emotions
Zoro=conqueror manifestation

 

[Chrono]

It's a trick whether Sanji wanted it or not. Luffy didn't eat his devil fruit intentionally, so do his fire abilities not count?

I referenced other fire abilities in the series to highlight how sanji's fire isn't rare or unique at the end of the day, no matter what criteria you put on it.

How is it a trick ? Might as well call DFs tricks as well.

If someone isnt dependant on constantly using something to create a certain output then it isnt a trick. Emotion drug and DFs are one time things. After that their users arent dependant on constantly eating a DF or being exposed to a drug etc.

 

[Peroroncino]

What need is lunarian powers if Sanji uses friction or vice versa ?

friction was the starting point after wanze gave him the idea,after his training he learned to do it like everyone else does, kinemon doesn't need friction to light his sword on fire,for example.
Then when he got judge's powers the lunarian DNA awakened even more and his fire is now hotter.

 

[Chrono]

friction was the starting point after wanze gave him the idea,after his training he learned to do it like everyone else does, kinemon doesn't need friction to light his sword on fire,for example.
Then when he got judge's powers the lunarian DNA awakened even more and his fire is now hotter.

Nobody stated Kinemon uses friction.

So Sanji's flame isnt dependant on Friction. Nice

 

[Peroroncino]

Nobody stated Kinemon uses friction.

So Sanji's flame isnt dependant on Friction. Nice

yeah i just said kinemon doesn't use it, congratulations you can read

 

[Chrono]

yeah i just said kinemon doesn't use it, congratulations you can read

Why bring Kinemon up then. Nobody accused him of friction like you were accusing Sanji.

And also dont change the convo you slimeball. You went from emotions and Lunarian to Friction.....to now doesnt need friction.

Literally a nonsense argument. If you dont believe current Sanji uses friction why tf did you quote me.

Im done

 

[cleanmrpostman]

How is it a trick ? Might as well call DFs tricks as well.

If someone isnt dependant on constantly using something to create a certain output then it isnt a trick. Emotion drug and DFs are one time things. After that their users arent dependant on constantly eating a DF or being exposed to a drug etc.

We're on the same page then. Sanji essentially got lucky with genes/drugs/devil fruits. I thought you were acting like they were different situations.
We still have no evidence or anything close to hints at asura though which is interesting

 

[Peroroncino]

Why bring Kinemon up then. Nobody accused him of friction like you were accusing Sanji.

And also dont change the convo you slimeball. You went from emotions and Lunarian to Friction.....to now doesnt need friction.

Literally a nonsense argument. If you dont believe current Sanji uses friction why tf did you quote me.

Im done

cause kinemon is another character you ignored when you pretended using fire is rare.
Kinemon uses emotions as well,it's a thing in one piece.
But sanji can release it from his whole body cause emotions plus lunarian powers.

 

[Albino 👑]

To the passion and aura manipulation people do yall think other characters can do similar things?

 

[Peroroncino]

don't forget the goat

 

[wys]

ashura has nothing to do with zoro's lineage + there is nothing such as cursed or magical swords

Asura is created by zoro's spirit

 

[Twin Milf]

Ashura is CoC that's why Kaku was shitting himself when Zoro pulled that shit outta nowhere in EL

 

[Albino 👑]

If asura is just conquerors wouldn't other characters stronger than ennies lobby zoro with better conqueror haki mastery be able to do something similar? Even moreso if they specialize in that form of haki

 

[soheilhazrat]

Everybody and their mother uses fire in OP, ashura how ever is mastery, probably something got with his spirit/haki, or one of his swords spirit.

 

[Colt Buntline]

Zoro's Ashura is just an illusion caused by very fast movements.

Sanji's Jambe was caused by friction before the time-skip, but during the time-skip he became able to create fire just with passion.

Why exactly Sanji is able to create fire with passion is a more complicated matter though. And I'm hoping it's because Sora is a descendent of Lunarian, as others have theorized, and Judge didn't know it, so Sanji was able to keep at least part of the Lunarian powers precisely because Sora prevented the Germa's genetic manipulation from working on Sanji's body, which would have removed the Lunarian powers from his body.
Too bad I can see a problem in this theory, which is that Sanji's awakening gave him powers too similar to the ones of his brothers, so it's hard to think of an excuse that Oda could use to make it so that Sanji was really able to escape from the genetic manipulation.

 

[Chrono]

To the passion and aura manipulation people do yall think other characters can do similar things?

No. Its a genetic thing....only Sanji can do cause of Sora

 

[Peroroncino]

To the passion and aura manipulation people do yall think other characters can do similar things?

yeah, pretty sure organ gun is just haki manipulation like asura

 

[Chrono]

We're on the same page then. Sanji essentially got lucky with genes/drugs/devil fruits. I thought you were acting like they were different situations.
We still have no evidence or anything close to hints at asura though which is interesting

Yh Sanji did get lucky. But again Sanji is literally a Pyrokenetic. Most OP characters arent except DF users and Lunarians.