Powers & Abilities What are Zoro's asura and Sanji's jambe? Can others do it?

#45
its late in the series yet too early to conclude this matter

there is already a plot point Oda created where even Queen was astonished over what sanji was doing and not so much with the germa sibs.. and asked if sanji's leg is a machine

other detail that people misinterpreted and generalized is " germa elemental (lasers, lightnings, poison,wrench) abilities were also genetic" when in actuality Queen reiterated that judge altered his Children to have strength, steel skin, and mobility

Nothing of the sort about elemental abilities was mentioned, matter the fact... the only time Queen mentions sanji's fire abilities he assumes that its a mechanic leg analogizing it to his siblings which is interesting... that means he assumed sanji's fire comes from a machine part.. like Ichiji's laser does, Yonji's wrench does, Niji's lighting and possibly Reiju's poison unless he has a DF
 
#46
just cause they don't mention it doesn't mean it's not there :kayneshrug: and if it's just moving really fast then almost everyone can do it.
He used it against cracker, katakuri, and kaido and not one of them mentioned it

Both cracker and katakuri who can make multiple arms for themselves (at least in the armor for cracker) didn't mention anything about luffy doing the same
Both katakuri and kaido who both have conquerors haki didn't say anything. With kaido only noticing his conquerors haki when unconscious luffy uses it.

Also im pretty sure luffy has done something similar with some of his snakeman attacks

Asura seems different than just moving fast imo
 

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#49
He used it against cracker, katakuri, and kaido and not one of them mentioned it

Both cracker and katakuri who can make multiple arms for themselves (at least in the armor for cracker) didn't mention anything about luffy doing the same
Both katakuri and kaido who both have conquerors haki didn't say anything. With kaido only noticing his conquerors haki when unconscious luffy uses it.

Also im pretty sure luffy has done something similar with some of his snakeman attacks

Asura seems different than just moving fast imo
kata and cracker can do it because df fruit powers and kaido didn't react to anything but when he saw asura zoro he immediately went ''you have coc too?"
 
#52
kata and cracker can do it because df fruit powers and kaido didn't react to anything but when he saw asura zoro he immediately went ''you have coc too?"
I know it's their devil fruit abilities πŸ—Ώ
My point is creating multiple arms isn't one of luffy's. At least not yet cause who knows with g5. And they didn't see anything out of the ordinary with luffy being able to create more arms like they can. Again i know kata and cracker do it through their fruits
Im talkin about luffy and kaido's first fight back in act 1. He didn't comment on luffy being a conqueror when he used organ but did when ko'd luffy started using it

Asura =/= kong organ
They're not the same
 

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#53
I know it's their devil fruit abilities πŸ—Ώ
My point is creating multiple arms isn't one of luffy's. At least not yet cause who knows with g5. And they didn't see anything out of the ordinary with luffy being able to create more arms like they can. Again i know kata and cracker do it through their fruits
Im talkin about luffy and kaido's first fight back in act 1. He didn't comment on luffy being a conqueror when he used organ but did when ko'd luffy started using it

Asura =/= kong organ
They're not the same
then why mention then?
Just cause oda doesn't have people freaking out cause he grew more limbs every time doesn't mean it's different from zoro's.
Kaido didn't freak out cause zoro grew more arms either but because zoro had coc.
 
#54
then why mention then?
Just cause oda doesn't have people freaking out cause he grew more limbs every time doesn't mean it's different from zoro's.
Kaido didn't freak out cause zoro grew more arms either but because zoro had coc.
πŸ—Ώ
Because it was something explicitly mentioned when they did so. Along with the fact that with them having that ability they'd probably mention, notice, or at the very least question how luffy's able to create multiple arms himself. Especially knowing that it's not related to his devil fruit. Unless creating multiple arms is such a common thing in op

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Again kaido didn't mention luffy using coc when he used Kong organ. He only found out after his defeat
Kong organ and asura aren't the same πŸ—Ώ
Againt kaido zoro either unlocked conquerors while attacking him or kaido was just straight up questioning if he was or not since he had the power to actually scar him
 
#55
Ashura is something related to the kitetsu sword no doubt. The cursed swords are demon-themed (enma, kikoku, durandal, kitetsu, yoru) and so is Zoro's ashura. It's basically Zoro's gear 4. it's also confirmed that Kaido's "so you have king's haki too?!" was not related to ashura since as it turned out that was an ability of enma (drawing out the king's haki).
 
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#56
πŸ—Ώ
Because it was something explicitly mentioned when they did so. Along with the fact that with them having that ability they'd probably mention, notice, or at the very least question how luffy's able to create multiple arms himself. Especially knowing that it's not related to his devil fruit. Unless creating multiple arms is such a common thing in op

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Again kaido didn't mention luffy using coc when he used Kong organ. He only found out after his defeat
Kong organ and asura aren't the same πŸ—Ώ
Againt kaido zoro either unlocked conquerors while attacking him or kaido was just straight up questioning if he was or not since he had the power to actually scar him
that makes no sense kaido didn't react to anything while drunk and you want oda to add people reacting to thing all the time is just weird,it's a manga for teenagers not little children where he has to explain things repeatedly.
Except for you since apparently you need it.
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Ashura is something related to the kitetsu sword no doubt. The cursed swords are demon-themed and so is Zoro's ashura.
kozaburo just revealed that cursed swords don't actually exist :kaidowhat:
 
#57
its late in the series yet too early to conclude this matter

there is already a plot point Oda created where even Queen was astonished over what sanji was doing and not so much with the germa sibs.. and asked if sanji's leg is a machine

other detail that people misinterpreted and generalized is " germa elemental (lasers, lightnings, poison,wrench) abilities were also genetic" when in actuality Queen reiterated that judge altered his Children to have strength, steel skin, and mobility

Nothing of the sort about elemental abilities was mentioned, matter the fact... the only time Queen mentions sanji's fire abilities he assumes that its a mechanic leg analogizing it to his siblings which is interesting... that means he assumed sanji's fire comes from a machine part.. like Ichiji's laser does, Yonji's wrench does, Niji's lighting and possibly Reiju's poison unless he has a DF
There exists a very old theory that Sanji's ability is basically devil fruit related. At first I thought the exoskeketon pretty much scrapped that but if what you say is true then it could still be on the table. His eyebrows look like the markings on the fire fruit and Jabura implied that those CURSED fruits have spirits. Joyboy's reincarnation after the awakening of Luffy's fruit add to that very much.
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that makes no sense kaido didn't react to anything while drunk and you want oda to add people reacting to thing all the time is just weird,it's a manga for teenagers not little children where he has to explain things repeatedly.
Except for you since apparently you need it.
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kozaburo just revealed that cursed swords don't actually exist :kaidowhat:
He revealed the exact opposite you fool. Explain how enma drained Zoro's haki. You can call that what you want but that is certainly not "don't actually exist" when swords do that and you have to "tame their wild nature... bend them to your will" and "the ones who own them die".
 
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#59
that makes no sense kaido didn't react to anything while drunk and you want oda to add people reacting to thing all the time is just weird,it's a manga for teenagers not little children where he has to explain things repeatedly.
Except for you since apparently you need it.
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kozaburo just revealed that cursed swords don't actually exist :kaidowhat:
Kong organ used 3 times
  • Never any mention of him actually creating multiple arms (with him having similar looking attack in at least snakeman)
  • Never any mention of it being tied to or connected to haki
  • Never any mention of it being related to his aura/spirit
  • Never any mention of it being any type of special power or ability
Not by luffy himself, cracker, katakuri, kaido, or all the random fodder that has seen him do the attack

You: "it's rare conquerors manipulation just like asura" 🧠

Also all he's saying is cursed blade = a really strong sword
The more "cursed" = the stronger and more powerful the sword its is
The stronger and more powerful the sword its is = the more cursed it is labeled

So yeah they exist in a way. Its just another way to say its strong. Its the same thing essentially
 

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#60
Kong organ used 3 times
  • Never any mention of him actually creating multiple arms (with him having similar looking attack in at least snakeman)
  • Never any mention of it being tied to or connected to haki
  • Never any mention of it being related to his aura/spirit
  • Never any mention of it being any type of special power or ability
Not by luffy himself, cracker, katakuri, kaido, or all the random fodder that has seen him do the attack

You: "it's rare conquerors manipulation just like asura" 🧠

Also all he's saying is cursed blade = a really strong sword
The more "cursed" = the stronger and more powerful the sword its is
The stronger and more powerful the sword its is = the more cursed it is labeled

So yeah they exist in a way. Its just another way to say its strong. Its the same thing essentially
yeah oda was wrong in thinking you could be smarter than a 4 year old who needs repeated explanations
 
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