Speculations What if Kaido went to Marine Ford and Shanks couldn't stop him?

[Dickie D. Dick]

Understandable, have a nice day!

You too good citizen! :cheers:

 

[Black]

Match-up wise here is my analysis:

1) Akainu can defeat old WB. Some people think that old WB defeated Akainu, but that dude clearly came back with 100% health and half of WB's face is melted. So it is pretty obvious who is stronger imo.

2) Sengoku + Garp can defeat Kaido, but definitely not kill him

3) Kizaru stalemates with Marco + King imo.

4) Aokiji > Jozu + Queen.

5) Mihawk will destroy anyone else that is left.

6) Kuma will fight but Hancock will switch side and help Luffy, and I have them both at around YC 1 so they cancel out.

7) Imu is too OP so i would assume he is not showing up, but Kong might given that the marine is vs. 2 yonkos not 1. Even then, I don't think he is needed.

Respectable opinion, but you should also take in count WBs alliance which was also on the battlefield.

 

[Human D Luffy]

Respectable opinion, but you should also take in count WBs alliance which was also on the battlefield.

Yes i guess so. Thats why I mentioned Mihawk will clear all of them at 5), because I dont see them being strong enough for individual battle analysis. WB's alliances are vice-admirals tier, which can be offset by marine VA, let alone Mihawk.

 

[Black]

Yes i guess so. Thats why I mentioned Mihawk will clear all of them at 5), because I dont see them being strong enough for individual battle analysis. WB's alliances are vice-admirals tier, which can be offset by marine VA, let alone Mihawk.

On what difficulty would the Marines/WG win in your opinion? Low,Mid,High,Extreme Diff?

 

[The White Crane]

What if Kaido was not only with king on his way to marine ford, but with his whole crew? Do you think Shanks would've been able to stop Kaido then?
What would change on the Battlefield when Kaido arrives there? How would it affect the Narrative? I've found a very interesting What if Video regarding Kaido and him appearing on Marineford. Check it out and tell me if this would be accurate.

You can see a realistic representation that Kaido took damage on fighting shanks and his crew before he arrived. I find it also very interesting how he reacts to the dead Whitebeard. That would pretty much be accurate if you ask me. The marine only assumed that he was going to kill WB but I think he was going to assist him or at least make sure he doesn't die on the hands of the marines because of the ambition they seemingly had.

Then Sakazuki would have low diffed Crydo like he low diffed WB.

 

[Human D Luffy]

On what difficulty would the Marines/WG win in your opinion? Low,Mid,High,Extreme Diff?

It depends on if you allow the marine to have ample time to better preparation for the battle against two yonkos instead of just WB.

1) If you assume kaido surprised them by showing up along with WB unbeknownst to the marine, then marine should still win extreme diff. But then again, how would you define the win condition? Because they would have been able to free Ace, and WB would most likely not die during the battle, but probably die after they have escaped.

2) If you assume that the marine had prior intel to Kaido's alliance with WB, then they would need Kong to get his butt out of his office chair. Imu might also spectate the battle secretly and intervene only when needed. The five elders (whoever that are actually high/top-tier fighters) would probably be at MF stand-by. High diff in that case.

 

[Vanlax]

Mihawk will make a sushi out of Kaido after hearing Shanks' defeat.

Upon Kaido's death, Teach will steal Kaido's DF and he will finally become complete.

Teach will wreck havoc there and then with Yami-yami, Gura-gura, and Dragonfish trio Devil Fruit.

Law's submarine will get caught by Blackbeard's rampage and gets destroyed. Luffy & Law dies by drowning.

One piece ends.

Oda makes a sequel Luffito.

 

[Finalbeta]

I guess he would have lost badly since one yonko crew seemed clearly incapable of soloing all the Marine forces + Shichibukai forces

It's pretty much 5 + 1 top tiers = 6

C3 + Goku + Garp + Mihawk and rest

Any yonko crew can at best most likely count on just 2 top tiers even in the present age I imagine and the high tiers don't prove enough to cope with it

 

[Human D Luffy]

I guess he would have lost badly since one yonko crew seemed clearly incapable of soloing all the Marine forces + Shichibukai forces

It's pretty much 5 + 1 top tiers = 6

C3 + Goku + Garp + Mihawk and rest

Any yonko crew can at best most likely count on just 2 top tiers even in the present age I imagine and the high tiers don't prove enough to cope with it

I believe OP is talking about an alliance of Kaido and WB vs. Marine at MF.

 

[stairs-kun]

1. Kaido only went with King
2. King would destroy all of WB's commanders
3. Kaido is a monster
4. King is a near equal monster to Kaido

 

[Human D Luffy]

4. King is a near equal monster to Kaido

I don't think most people would agree with this statement, as there is very little evidence to back this claim up at all.

 

[ShadyOjiro]

Luffy somehow unlocks avd coc for single hit xd

 

[stairs-kun]

I don't think most people would agree with this statement, as there is very little evidence to back this claim up at all.

Kaido only called for King when he went to MF

Post automatically merged: Sep 12, 2021

King uses Kaido's name at his leisure, Kaido uses King sword at his leisure.

 

[Human D Luffy]

Kaido only called for King when he went to MF

Ok I get this point. But that just implies that King is a lot stronger than Queen. It doesn't mean that King is close to Kaido's strength tho...

 

[Zoro the badass god]

King kill all marine while kaido high diff whitebeard on 1 on 1.whitebeard crew take ace back with them with whitebeard alone die

 

[thedarkdragon11]

Alive: Ace
Dead: WB, Kaido, Akainu

 

[Sugimoto 14]

The forces:

3 admirals, sengoku, garp, vice admirals, lots of marine fodder

Shichibukai

VS

Kaido, Whitebeard

King, queen, jack, Marco, vista,jozu

Whitebeard captains

Tobi roppo

Fodder kaido allies

Fodder whitebeard allies


Kaido has such a huge army. It changes the picture.

The admirals+garp+sengoku will extreme diff kaido and whitebeard.

I am skeptical if the 7 shichibukai can hold off 6 strongest yonko commmanders PLUS the other YCs I also think the yonko army and fodder are stronger on average than the marines. So the yonko commanders will run wild in my opinion and defeat the shichibukai IMO.

The marines have huge amounts of fodder which helps. Big numbers advantage for marines.

But wait... luffy and his allies can really change the tide of battle too. I dont see anyone stopping them from reaching ace.

I honestly think with kaido he extreme diffs the marines.

Winner: yonko and luffy extreme diff. Or a stalemate with extreme casualties on both sides.

No wonder shanks had to step in and save the marines from kaido

 

[ShishioIsBack]

What if Kaido was not only with king on his way to marine ford, but with his whole crew? Do you think Shanks would've been able to stop Kaido then?
What would change on the Battlefield when Kaido arrives there? How would it affect the Narrative? I've found a very interesting What if Video regarding Kaido and him appearing on Marineford. Check it out and tell me if this would be accurate.

You can see a realistic representation that Kaido took damage on fighting shanks and his crew before he arrived. I find it also very interesting how he reacts to the dead Whitebeard. That would pretty much be accurate if you ask me. The marine only assumed that he was going to kill WB but I think he was going to assist him or at least make sure he doesn't die on the hands of the marines because of the ambition they seemingly had.

Then Mihawk kills him

 

[Black]

Then Mihawk kills him

In what difficulty though?

 

[ShishioIsBack]

In what difficulty though?

high diff