Powers & Abilities what is the Hierarchy of Flames?

[Dettles]

Out of all the Devil Fruits and Abilities that produce Fire or Flames how do you rank them in heat and AP?

 

[MonsterKaido]

Magma flames > Blue flames > Normal flames

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Aces/Sabos has highest DC
Sanjis IJ is the highest Heat
Kings Tempura Udon has the highest Lethality

 

[SkySanji]

In terms of heat it is

Blazing Bagua > King's flames > Mera flames > Sanji's flames

Marco's flames aren't included as they don't actually emit heat or burn

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

Out of the known "flame" ("heat") DFs, the only confirmed superiority is magu magu > mera mera (SBS Vol. 79). However, I'd guess that magu magu is the superior overall since the Vivre Card Databook (Akainu's card, #0595) has the info that magu magu possess the highest offensive power of all DFs.

Speculating the rest, I'd put like this: magu magu > uo uo (seiryu) > tori tori (phoenix) > mera mera > netsu netsu.

Edit: oh, and putting King's and Sanji's flames, I guess it goes like this: magu magu > uo uo (seiryu) > ifrit jambe ~ tori tori (phoenix) > mera mera > King's flames ~ diable jambe > netsu netsu.

 

[shastar-sei]

For Devil Fruits and their heat or flame potency in burning, I guess something like this:

- Magu Magu no Mi
- Uo Uo no Mi, Model: Seiryu
- Mera Mera no Mi (it surely has a higher ceiling than Seiryu but hasn't been shown)
- Gasu Gasu no Mi
- Netsu Netsu no Mi
- Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Itsumade
- Soru Soru no Mi
- Gomu Gomu no Mi
- Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Phoenix (doesn't burn)

 

[SkySanji]

However, I'd guess that magu magu is the superior overall since the Vivre Card Databook (Akainu's card, #0595) has the info that magu magu possess the highest offensive power of all DFs.

It says among the highest, not the highest.

Also, magma isn't flames...

 

[BattalGazi]

Sanjis flames are probably hotter then Akainus magma but since magma is molten earth it is more dangerous. If we compare Sanji and Kings flame for some reason it seems to give more damage then the higher temperature blue flames which doesn't make sense at all. Aces flames are probably the weakest but when he makes spear lance or that cross attack damage seems to be higher and have penetration power which King and Sanji doesn't have while Akainu has.
If it is higher temperature it is Sanji>Akainu >King>Ace but if we consider damage output Akainu>Ace>King>Sanji.

Using flames is a new thing Sanji started after time skip so it is understandable he is the weakest since he has so little experience. Also Sanjis flames seems to be connected to his emotions so it is not stable as other powers.

I am not sure how Ceasars blue flames can melt steel while Sanjis blue flames doesn't do jack shit, if someone can explain to me why I'll be happy.

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

Sanjis flames are probably hotter then Akainus magma

 

[SkySanji]

Sanjis flames are probably hotter then Akainus magma but since magma is molten earth it is more dangerous. If we compare Sanji and Kings flame for some reason it seems to give more damage then the higher temperature blue flames which doesn't make sense at all. Aces flames are probably the weakest but when he makes spear lance or that cross attack damage seems to be higher and have penetration power which King and Sanji doesn't have while Akainu has.
If it is higher temperature it is Sanji>Akainu >King>Ace but if we consider damage output Akainu>Ace>King>Sanji.

Using flames is a new thing Sanji started after time skip so it is understandable he is the weakest since he has so little experience. Also Sanjis flames seems to be connected to his emotions so it is not stable as other powers.

I am not sure how Ceasars blue flames can melt steel while Sanjis blue flames doesn't do jack shit, if someone can explain to me why I'll be happy.

Caesar didn't really melt steel with flames, he used basically a gas cannon to do it, and no shot are Sanji's flames the hottest, literally nothing supports that, Sanji has never done more than give someone light burns.

 

[Sentry22]

Akainu's Devil Fruit is stated to have the highest offensive power of any DF in the Vivre Card.

Judging by what happened in Marineford I believe that to be true.

Akainu>Marco>King~Sanji~Ace

 

[MonsterKaido]

Akainu's Devil Fruit is stated to have the highest offensive power of any DF in the Vivre Card.

It says among the highest, not the highest.

 

[Sentry22]

Given that it's the only Devil Fruit known to be able to burn even flames I would say it's pretty much guaranteed.

 

[ZenZu]

In terms of heat.
Blue flames > the rest

In terms of AP.
Magma > the rest

 

[SkySanji]

In terms of heat.
Blue flames > the rest

You mean Sanji's flames? Why are they the hottest?

 

[ZenZu]

You mean Sanji's flames? Why are they the hottest?

Because Sanji could already produce orange flames before, once his body could handle higher temperatures his flames turned blue. So we know blue flames are hotter than orange flames, it's the only example we have of the evolution of flame temps.

 

[SkySanji]

Because Sanji could already produce orange flames before, once his body could handle higher temperatures his flames turned blue. So we know blue flames are hotter than orange flames, it's the only example we have of the evolution of flame temps.

We know Sanji's blue flames are hotter than Sanji's orange flames, we do not know that Sanji's blue flames are hotter than all other flames, and the feats absolutely do not support that, Sanji's heat feats are among the worst of all fire users...

 

[Bad English]

Hotter flames>less hotter flames.
Sabo solos.

 

[Salah WG]

Heat ---> Goro Goro No Mi
Flame AP ---> Mera Mera No Mi

 

[ZenZu]

We know Sanji's blue flames are hotter than Sanji's orange flames, we do not know that Sanji's blue flames are hotter than all other flames, and the feats absolutely do not support that, Sanji's heat feats are among the worst of all fire users...

If they were hotter than Sanji's flames they would atleast be blue.

Being magma esque can give other properties which can make the attacks stronger. But we know through Sanji, that blue flames in general are just hotter than orange flames. That's the only temp related comparison and statement we have.