Questions & Mysteries What is the in universe reason that Luffy runs out of g5

[Levi]

Luffy LITERALLY said he was not at his limit.

Again it is right there in text and you can even visibly see the difference in the way he was drawn after the Kizaru battle vs mid Kaidou battle.

This just proves what I was saying, the answer is right there you just don't like it. That's fine you don't have to like it, but don't act like Oda didn't have Luffy state and show why he was unable to move. It just means G5 went well past its time limit, where against Kaidou it wasn't G5 that went past its time limit. Luffy was just tired from all the fighting and he struggled to keep the mode activated, he was basically bonked out of the mode but Luffy clearly stated and showed his mode was not at his limit. He wasn't even on the floor in the Kaidou scene, still standing.

luffy getting ko twice
Killed
Two rounds of gear 5th = not at his limit

small battle mostly running around with kizaru took a paper cut
a laser in the mouth
went thru the barrier= at his limit

when luffy loses his gear 5th he’s at his limit but when he lost it to kaido he wasn’t it was just luffy struggling to keep gear 5th activated?

according to you that’s oda explaining why he can’t restart his heart with 80% less damage than he had in wano.

your whole argument is kizaru pushed luffy g5 to his limit while kaido didn’t and using the
“oda said” argument
👍

 

[soupongo]

It's just incredibly inconsistent that he could revive himself against Kaido and not Kizaru
That's the only problem with it imo

Why? In one case he simply wasn´t at his limit like he was in the other.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Why? In one case he simply wasn´t at his limit like he was in the other.

Which again... Makes no sense.
He took far more damage and was far more exhausted against Kaido than he was against Kizaru. Kaido actually fucking KILLED HIM ON PANEL and this is referenced when Luffy runs out the first time he uses G5.
It's clear he was more exhausted against Kaido than he was against Kizaru. Again, for the 500th time, Oda simply wrote it this way so Luffy didn't get up and ruin Saturn's entrance immediately.

 

[soupongo]

Which again... Makes no sense.
He took far more damage and was far more exhausted against Kaido than he was against Kizaru. Kaido actually fucking KILLED HIM ON PANEL and this is referenced when Luffy runs out the first time he uses G5.
It's clear he was more exhausted against Kaido than he was against Kizaru. Again, for the 500th time, Oda simply wrote it this way so Luffy didn't get up and ruin Saturn's entrance immediately.

He *killed* him before Luffy awakened. Literally all Luffy did after he got g5 at that point was dance around. kaido was mostly just shocked

 

[MonsterKaido]

Him being at his limit against Kizaru makes no sense though, I don't know why you're not getting that. Against Kaido he accumulated far more damage and was extremely exhausted from constantly abusing Gear 4 as well. Not to mention he straight up died.
Yet he could enter G5 again despite that.
Is it not illogical that he couldn't enter G5 again when he fought Kizaru, even though Kizaru only got one hit in and it did nothing more than slice his cheek a little, and before they fought Luffy was completely fresh?

Lenzu logic 😂

 

[vikas]

Lack of faith in nika

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

He *killed* him before Luffy awakened. Literally all Luffy did after he got g5 at that point was dance around. kaido was mostly just shocked

"Oh yeah... I was dyin' before this..."

Lenzu logic 😂

I swear to god that guy just shuts his brain off completely when ever he talks about Kizaru or Vergo. It's like he becomes a whole other person.

 

[soupongo]

Bruh, Kaido was literally just watching Luffy dance around until he did g5 a second time lmfao

He even says ¨you can rest easy , and die then.¨

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"Oh yeah... I was dyin' before this..."

I swear to god that guy just shuts his brain off completely when ever he talks about Kizaru or Vergo. It's like he becomes a whole other person.

Yes, before he awakaned. What if even the issue?
All that matters is that once he awakaned, they didn´t really *fight*
More so Kaido was just playing around. Then at the end of the fight, he legitmately passes out, and is out for 3 weeks
Because he reached his limit

 

[ZenZu]

luffy getting ko twice
Killed
Two rounds of gear 5th = not at his limit

small battle mostly running around with kizaru took a paper cut
a laser in the mouth
went thru the barrier= at his limit

when luffy loses his gear 5th he’s at his limit but when he lost it to kaido he wasn’t it was just luffy struggling to keep gear 5th activated?

according to you that’s oda explaining why he can’t restart his heart with 80% less damage than he had in wano.

your whole argument is kizaru pushed luffy g5 to his limit while kaido didn’t and using the
“oda said” argument
👍

Again, this entire post is just "I don't like the answer I was given in the manga." That's ok, but don't act like the answer isn't there. Stated AND shown by the character in question himself.

You can say Oda didn't do a good job, that's a different matter.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Bruh, Kaido was literally just watching Luffy dance around until he did g5 a second time lmfao

He even says ¨you can rest easy , and die then.¨

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Yes, before he awakaned. What if even the issue?

 

[soupongo]

Damm, when I hear people complain about inconsistencies in One Piece, I would just assume they´re being honest, since this is a manga where the main character sudddenly gets his fruit retconned into a god fruit, 1044 chapters in, but there is literally no issue here. That´s just crazy

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Damm, when I hear people complain about inconsistencies in One Piece, I would just assume they´re being honest, since this is a manga where the main character sudddenly gets his fruit retconned into a god fruit, 1044 chapters in, but there is literally no issue here. That´s just crazy

Please stop man. It's painful to read this. Like honestly. It hurts.

 

[ZenZu]

Damm, when I hear people complain about inconsistencies in One Piece, I would just assume they´re being honest, since this is a manga where the main character sudddenly gets his fruit retconned into a god fruit, 1044 chapters in, but there is literally no issue here. That´s just crazy

It's power scaling brainrot.

 

[MonsterKaido]

"Oh yeah... I was dyin' before this..."

I swear to god that guy just shuts his brain off completely when ever he talks about Kizaru or Vergo. It's like he becomes a whole other person.

Pizarru fans salty that Kizaru performed poorly against G5. Only showed good feats against an adv coc less snakeman Luffy.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Pizarru fans salty that Kizaru performed poorly against G5. Only showed good feats against an adv coc less snakeman Luffy.

I never get this insecurity about a character being weaker than another character, the only characters that matters for are:
Whitebeard
Zoro
Mihawk
And Kaido to an extent
Because they all have plot lines revolving around being strong or the strongest, i.e Whitebeard is the WSM and Mihawk the WSS, so it'd be dumb if Whitebeard (or Primebeard to be more specific) was below any characters alive not named Imu. Would also be dumb for Mihawk to below any swordsmen alive.
Other than them, what the fuck is the problem with a character being weaker than another? It's shameful to see grown men acting a fool over a manga geared towards minors because their fave only pushes another character to a high diff and not an extreme diff. They really need to get a grip. I like Kizaru but you would never see me pushing these delusions about him being above Luffy because of something that was obviously a plot-based restriction. And that's mostly because I don't need to... He's a good character and him being weaker than or stronger than Luffy doesn't change that.

 

[soupongo]

Pizarru fans salty that Kizaru performed poorly against G5. Only showed good feats against an adv coc less snakeman Luffy.

Which is why we made a thread complaining about our guy getting a secret god fruit 1044 chapters in the story actually being a secret nerf? Lmao
Stick to making flat earther takes where Mihawk is above WB and the narrator is in a conspiracy to lie to you

 

[MonsterKaido]

Which is why we made a thread complaining about our guy getting a secret god fruit 1044 chapters in the story actually being a secret nerf? Lmao
Stick to making flat earther takes where Mihawk is above WB and the narrator is in a conspiracy to lie to you

 

[SakazOuki]

Kaidotards gonna keep crying til the EoS it’s sad (and disgusting)

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

he runs out of spurm to coat himself in

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Yeah, I'm confused as well. Zoan awakenings were supposed to make the character tougher and have better stamina, I thought? This is a slightly less shitty Gear 4 recoil, as far as I can tell.