Questions & Mysteries What is the in universe reason that Luffy runs out of g5

#81
I suppose, because Luffy doesn't have full awakening mastery for now.

His heartbeat restarting looks more like just a animated version of the zoan awakening fast recovery. Presumably after a defeat an awakened zoan comes back but with a less health each time. Though there is still a limit to that and for Luffy his current limit is reliably 1 time.
 
#83
I can understand luffy running out of g4 (even though it is bullshit) due to him over using his haki even though no one else in the godamn series has ever ran out of haki, but what is the reason for fluffy running out of g5, when it is just his hybrid form and no haki related to it, every other zoan user in the series could technically use g5 for an unlimited duration.

I think it might genuinely be a mental block placed by himself, if my memory serves me correctly, I think fluffy ran out of g5 when fighting the gorosei once and he had the giants with him, and he miraculously regained his stamina once he ate. in the 2 cases when he lost g5 he was not in danger and the other time he ran out of g5 in wano he automatically restarted it because kaido was a genuine threat and he new it
Cuz luffy is a retard who spams all his shit within 5 mins
its like zoro using all his haki for 5 min straight knowing that he cant keep up or enma will kill him.

At least zoro is smart cuz mainly he doesnt have a limit otherwise he will die but luffy has limits and he never learns
 
#84
Cuz luffy is a retard who spams all his shit within 5 mins
its like zoro using all his haki for 5 min straight knowing that he cant keep up or enma will kill him.

At least zoro is smart cuz mainly he doesnt have a limit otherwise he will die but luffy has limits and he never learns
g5 is like his awakening, all i am asking is why he runs out and lucci doesn't
 
#85
g5 is like his awakening, all i am asking is why he runs out and lucci doesn't
Alright, so correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't Nika the only canon awakened Mythical Zoan? And it's basically the super special god fruit too.

If so, then it's entirely possible that they simply play by different rules. Luffy's awakening gives him way more power than Lucci's did after all, so it stands to reason that there's a drawback.

And do you really think the timer issue is gonna last? He'll most likely learn to overcome it, it's probably one of the last (if not the last) powerups in his future.

As for Lucci, my memory is hazy but it's not revealed when he awakened right? So for all we know, he too might have had stamina issues at first before training them away.
 
#86
Alright, so correct me if I'm wrong here but isn't Nika the only canon awakened Mythical Zoan? And it's basically the super special god fruit too.

If so, then it's entirely possible that they simply play by different rules. Luffy's awakening gives him way more power than Lucci's did after all, so it stands to reason that there's a drawback.

And do you really think the timer issue is gonna last? He'll most likely learn to overcome it, it's probably one of the last (if not the last) powerups in his future.

As for Lucci, my memory is hazy but it's not revealed when he awakened right? So for all we know, he too might have had stamina issues at first before training them away.
why would luffys fruit play by a different rule. every awakening in the series has no draw back and I am 100% sure the mains villain won't have one so fluffy having one is just oda wanting to make fluffy super strong but putting stupid limitation so he can control the story

we don't even know the actual limit, today it can be 5 min, tmr 10
 
#87
Luffy wasn't the first zoan to have an "ultimate" form that drains their energy, albeit I wouldn't call it awakening Chopper always had issue with his monster point draining his life force.
He even got the opposite drawback where he turns into an infant after Caesar Clown helped him boost Monster Point duration with a new rumble ball
Chopper's thing is that he's cheating by using drug for monster point, this is not a form he can enter naturally so his body simply is not used to it.
Luffy doesn't "cheat" for G5 but this is not a form he got by training either, his awakening radomly activated when his heart stopped.
I believe that Luffy simply didn't master G5 enough yet and his body/mind struggles to properly handle it, as this is also the only case of awakened zoan where the personality of user is actually altered. Lucci and Kaku behaved the same whether they were using their awakened form or no (and so did Yamato if one believe she is awakened).
Some people say Nika and Luffy behave the same but that's false.
 
#88
Probably a combination of inexperience using the form in general, and 'fate' (read: plot). Probably just runs out of haki. I was wondering the same thing in another thread:

Real question is why does Luffy need to eat food at all lol? He should be able to just manifest it out of nowhere, or is that "dream food" and thus has no energy. DBZ had the best solution to this: strong emotions = energy. Just scream really loud and think of something dramatic. Problem solved hahaha.

I bet Luffy will be able to absorb the haki of others that are willing to donate power to him as well as share his own like he did with Bonney. Then there's the possibility of him channeling joyboy/nika haki as well as their (his?) past memories/experiences.
 
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