General & Others When does a weapon become a sword and a man a swordsman?

Is swordsman an identity or a fighting style?

it seems this is where the problem is
Both
Which is why cabaji is one and king isn’t
It's not her signature attack she uses many attacks to finish many people off
Also she doesn't primarily fight with a sword like Shanks
Ikoku is her thunder bagua it’s her signature attack
Do you have more panels of shanks fighting?
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It does makes you a swordsman especially when you dont have a fruit like roger and shanks

Based on what?
Kamusari is a swordskill
Shanks learned it when he was a cabin boy
Gaban couldnt replicate it and other roger pirates :willight:
Having a fruit or not doesn’t determine if you’re a swordsman
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None of the Roger pirates could recreate it even the ones with swords like Rayleigh lol. Also saying it can’t be done with another blade is like saying ikoku can’t or even zoro can’t do onigiri with a scythe. Both of which we know is untrue
 
Both
Which is why cabaji is one and king isn’t

Ikoku is her thunder bagua it’s her signature attack
Do you have more panels of shanks fighting?
:sanmoji:


Having a fruit or not doesn’t determine if you’re a swordsman
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None of the Roger pirates could recreate it even the ones with swords like Rayleigh lol. Also saying it can’t be done with another blade is like saying ikoku can’t or even zoro can’t do onigiri with a scythe. Both of which we know is untrue
Do you have panels of him fighting/preparing to fight with anything but a sword?
 
Both
Which is why cabaji is one and king isn’t

Ikoku is her thunder bagua it’s her signature attack
Do you have more panels of shanks fighting?
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Having a fruit or not doesn’t determine if you’re a swordsman
:sanmoji:
None of the Roger pirates could recreate it even the ones with swords like Rayleigh lol. Also saying it can’t be done with another blade is like saying ikoku can’t or even zoro can’t do onigiri with a scythe. Both of which we know is untrue
Yes it does especially when all the time you were showed with it
Drop me a panel of shanks punching kicking or roger in a battle
Kamusari not being replicated means its not a haki swordskill but a pure swordskill i guess and shanks is a way more talented swordsman than others
Most of swordstyles can be replicated by axemen

According to you this isnt swordsmanship bcs he didnt say the style



looks like ikoku
 
Do you have panels of him fighting/preparing to fight with anything but a sword?
I’ve shown you all 1 panels of his only “fight” in the series. Same way you have no more panels of shanks fighting to prove your points neither do I because they don’t exist
Yes it does especially when all the time you were showed with it
Drop me a panel of shanks punching kicking or roger in a battle
Kamusari not being replicated means its not a haki swordskill but a pure swordskill i guess and shanks is a way more talented swordsman than others
Most of swordstyles can be replicated by axemen

According to you this isnt swordsmanship bcs he didnt say the style



looks like ikoku
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It being forgotten once doesn’t change the fact it’s a part of zoro’s 1 sword style
 
I’ve shown you all 1 panels of his only “fight” in the series. Same way you have no more panels of shanks fighting to prove your points neither do I because they don’t exist

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It being forgotten once doesn’t change the fact it’s a part of zoro’s 1 sword style
Yeah bcs style doesnt matter in this convo
You wont have mihawk saying 1 swordstyle or shiryu
Kamusari like attacks is gonna be roger s style
Idk why u keep waffling about this
But let me ask this again is kamusari a swordskill?
 
They not the same..

Exactly, katanas are a subcategory of swords.

The shit you talking about is regarding graded weapons, which consist of swords, spears, etc.

So there is a distinction made between different bladed weapons. Not to mention thats a nobrainer anyway. . .
Based on the Japanese raws.. Swords are a subcategory of Katanas.. All Meitous are considered Katanas(Axe, Spear, Naginata)..
 
Both
Which is why cabaji is one and king isn’t
King isn’t a swordsman because he never uses a single sword attack… this is what he says doesn’t make him a swordsman and indeed, Oda makes sure he never has a single named sword attack

Do why did Oda have King never use a sword attack yet he has Big mom, Roger and Shanks do it?

and if swordsman is an Identity then what makes Mihawk the strongest swordsman? Is he the “Most Swordsman”? Like is he the “most gay”, since identities we are discussing?
 
King isn’t a swordsman because he never uses a single sword attack… this is what he says doesn’t make him a swordsman and indeed, Oda makes sure he never has a single named sword attack

Do why did Oda have King never use a sword attack yet he has Big mom, Roger and Shanks do it?

and if swordsman is an Identity then what makes Mihawk the strongest swordsman? Is he the “Most Swordsman”? Like is he the “most gay”, since identities we are discussing?
Okay so Franky and Queen are swordsmen while king isn’t in your head?

???
 
King's primary form of combat involves his sword, so he is a swordsman.
No, Him Isn't, King,Big Mom,Kizaru,WB,Franky, Queen, none Of then are Swordsmans.

Yet, Shanks is put in Swordsmans.

Sanji fighted against a CP agent in W7 with Swords, this put Him at Swordsmans? Luffy used a Sword in Wano and used for some extent, Him is a Swordsman?
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Guys, none Of ALL character who has a Swords, are Swordsmans.

That's the truest and ODA already make It clear as King Isn't a swordsman.

Queen?
Franky?
Big Mom?
Kizaru?
 
No, Him Isn't, King,Big Mom,Kizaru,WB,Franky, Queen, none Of then are Swordsmans.
King stated as swordsman in VC. Don't argue with headcanon
WB doesn't use a sword.
BMs primary combat involves her sword.
Kizaru, Franky, Queen don't use sword as primary combat form

Yet, Shanks is put in Swordsmans.
Because he fights using a sword. In every combat scenario he uses his sword.

Sanji fighted against a CP agent in W7 with Swords, this put Him at Swordsmans?
Are you retarded?
Those were fucking kitchen knives

Luffy used a Sword in Wano and used for some extent, Him is a Swordsman?
Yeah he used the sword to punch people with it.
 
King stated as swordsman in VC. Don't argue with headcanon
WB doesn't use a sword.
BMs primary combat involves her sword.
Kizaru, Franky, Queen don't use sword as primary combat form


Because he fights using a sword. In every combat scenario he uses his sword.


Are you retarded?
Those were fucking kitchen knives


Yeah he used the sword to punch people with it.
So who are the true? Manga panels or VC painel?

BMs primary combat doesnt involves with a Sword, she is ALL rounder.

Well WB Naginata is put in Sword category as a one of 12.
 
Again zoro has a sword style
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Are you trying to argue that all weapons that can be used as swords are swords? Does that mean Whitebeard is also a swordsman because his weapon can be used as one? Not as important but Kaido can send cutting attacks with his club.

You do understand by that logic they also don’t have attack names because we haven’t heard of them
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And again
I’m tired repeating myself










Kinda funny how someone could master a cursed supreme grade blade and even make it black but if it’s something like a scythe or knife it doesn’t matter to the wss title lol
Bladesman > swordsman
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Hyouzou, Kyros, Diamante, etc.
 
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