General & Others When does a weapon become a sword and a man a swordsman?

[Flash_Flash]

You're wrong. Go back and read his battle against King. We can see a distinct difference between when he's using CoC and not.

The lightning around the sword tells us he's using CoC. It's the same when he first coated his swords with CoC which caused the fodder to lose consciousness.

When there's no lightning he just using CoA haki.

When there is lightning he's using CoC and CoA.

In this particular scene we see when he coated his swords with CoC to make it KoH attack.

The vivre card tells us the black lightning (flash) is CoC haki.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1905908279793824020

He released CoC by accident like kid Ace.

We saw the same lightning when base Luffy kicked Kizaru that doesn't mean base Luffy used conqueror coating against Kizaru.

CoA is also black in color.

How does King panels prove it when base Luffy also had the same lighting streak against Kizaru

 

[Rurushu]

Arguing about AdCoC Zoro in 2025 is just retarded.
I don't know why you are wasting your time.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Loki said he experienced it himself so experience using CoC not experience damaging the holy kngith. Where is it stated Loki damaged holy knights in the past?

He has he has a power that he “couldn’t put into words before” that he used to fight the holy knights in the past and he knows he can beat them

What is this power he has already used that he “couldn’t put into words before”? You’re saying it’s regular CoC? Why does he think regular CoC will be what helps him beat the holy knights?

Remember it’s a power that he has already used but “couldn’t put into words” before and lets him know he can beat the holy knights from having fought them USING THIS POWER before

 

[Flash_Flash]

He has he has a power that he “couldn’t put into words before” that he used to fight the holy knights in the past and he knows he can beat them

What is this power he has already used that he “couldn’t put into words before”? You’re saying it’s regular CoC? Why does he think regular CoC will be what helps him beat the holy knights?

Remember it’s a power that he has already used but “couldn’t put into words” before and lets him know he can beat the holy knights from having fought them USING THIS POWER before

Gaban helped him to realize with CoC control he can damage holy knights. What Loki experienced was CoC not damaging Holy Knight.

 

[CbShadow]

He released CoC by accident like kid Ace.

We saw the same lightning when base Luffy kicked Kizaru that doesn't mean base Luffy used conqueror coating against Kizaru.

CoA is also black in color.

How does King panels prove it when base Luffy also had the same lighting streak against Kizaru

Ignoring manga facts doesn't make you right.

So you chose to ignore the part where we see Zoro swords coated lightning that cause people lose consciousness.

Here it is again:

The lightning around the sword tells us he's using CoC. It's the same when he first coated his swords with CoC which caused the fodder to lose consciousness.

When there's no lightning he just using CoA haki.

When there is lightning he's using CoC and CoA.

In this particular scene we see when he coated his swords with CoC to make it KoH attack.

The vivre card tells us the black lightning (flash) is CoC haki.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1905908279793824020

 

[HA001]

@Flash_Flash moron how can It just be coa when we've seen it coated in coa and there is no lightning

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Gaban helped him to realize with CoC control he can damage holy knights. What Loki experienced was CoC not damaging Holy Knight.

What is the power that Loki “couldn’t put into words before”

the fact that he uses the word “before” means he has thought about this power in the past. And presumable he has USED IT IN THE PAST hence why he has been thinking about it

 

[Flash_Flash]

Ignoring manga facts doesn't make you right.

So you chose to ignore the part where we see Zoro swords coated lightning that cause people lose consciousness.

Here it is again:

The lightning around the sword tells us he's using CoC. It's the same when he first coated his swords with CoC which caused the fodder to lose consciousness.

When there's no lightning he just using CoA haki.

When there is lightning he's using CoC and CoA.

In this particular scene we see when he coated his swords with CoC to make it KoH attack.

The vivre card tells us the black lightning (flash) is CoC haki.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1905908279793824020

What manga facsts state Zoro coated his attacks with CoC?

How do you know people lost consciousness because Zoro coated his swords with CoC? He could have released CoC by accident like kdi Ace did. Not necessarily mean he had to coat his swords with CoC.

Lightning indicator is an argument I debunekd already. Same lighting streak base Luffy ahd when he kicked Kizaru that doesn't mean base Luffy coated his kick with CoC.

Yeah and CoA is also black lightning lol.

What is the power that Loki “couldn’t put into words before”

the fact that he uses the word “before” means he has thought about this power in the past. And presumable he has USED IT IN THE PAST hence why he has been thinking about it

@Flash_Flash moron how can It just be coa when we've seen it coated in coa and there is no lightning

Didn't base Luffy have the same lightning streak when he kicked Kizaru? That doesn't mean base Luffy coated his kick with CoA.

I read the chapter where's the panels that Loki said about a power he could not put before?

Gaban said holy knights can be damaged with CoC control.

Loki thanked Gaban to realize he can make gooduse of his power or verbalize his power (CoC).

Loki himself said he experienced it in the past (releasing CoC).

 

[HA001]

What manga facsts state Zoro coated his attacks with CoC?

How do you know people lost consciousness because Zoro coated his swords with CoC? He could have released CoC by accident like kdi Ace did. Not necessarily mean he had to coat his swords with CoC.

Lightnin

g indicator is an argument I debunekd already. Same lighting streak base Luffy ahd when he kicked Kizaru that doesn't mean base Luffy coated his kick with CoC.

Yeah and CoA is also black lightning lol.


Didn't base Luffy have the same lightning streak when he kicked Kizaru? That doesn't mean base Luffy coated his kick with CoA.

I read the chapter where's the panels that Loki said about a power he could not put before?

Gaban said holy knights can be damaged with CoC control.

Loki thanked Gaban to realize he can make gooduse of his power or verbalize his power (CoC).

Loki himself said he experienced it in the past (releasing CoC).

Luffy is irrelevant here

Zoro coated his swords in coa already and has NEVER HAD LIGHTNING

Debunked

 

[Flash_Flash]

Luffy is irrelevant here

Zoro coated his swords in coa already and has NEVER HAD LIGHTNING

Debunked

Why is it debunked when you cannot explain why there;s lightning streak on base Luffy kick when he kicked Kizaru? There's a confirmation Luffy can coat his attacks with CoC. Is there any confirmation with Zoro? Lighting streak is just massive CoA. Where's the statement that it's CoC?

 

[HA001]

Why is it debunked when you cannot explain why there;s lightning streak on base Luffy kick when he kicked Kizaru? There's a confirmation Luffy can coat his attacks with CoC. Is there any confirmation with Zoro? Lighting streak is just massive CoA. Where's the statement that it's CoC?

I have debunked it.

Zoro has never had lightning streaks on his attack before he got coc

Before he uses coc in the SAME CHAPTER he already has coa on enma and THERES no lightning

We are discussing zoro not luffy and luffy used coc in that kick on kizaru.

 

[Flash_Flash]

I have debunked it.

Zoro has never had lightning streaks on his attack before he got coc

Before he uses coc in the SAME CHAPTER he already has coa on enma and THERES no lightning

We are discussing zoro not luffy and luffy used coc in that kick on kizaru.

Lightning can mean excessive CoA? Not CoC?

We need to include base Luffy since base Luffy also had the same lighting streak as Zoro when base Luffy kicked Kizaru.

So Luffy used CoC and Kizaru did not get blown away make it make sense

 

[HA001]

Lightning can mean excessive CoA? Not CoC?

We need to include base Luffy since base Luffy also had the same lighting streak as Zoro when base Luffy kicked Kizaru.

So Luffy used CoC and Kizaru did not get blown away make it make sense

Lightning can't mean excessive coa FOR ZORO.

Kizaru has a good guard

 

[Flash_Flash]

Lightning can't mean excessive coa FOR ZORO.

Kizaru has a good guard

Prove?

Yet Kizaru said non CoC snakeman was the guy who beat Kaido lol while Kizaru did not say anything about base Luffy.

 

[kekaro]

Lightning can't mean excessive coa FOR ZORO.

why is his coa too weak compared to luffy? Can you give the reason

 

[HA001]

why is his coa too weak compared to luffy? Can you give the reason

Because Lightning is coc for zoro.

 

[Flash_Flash]

Because Lightning is coc for zoro.

Prove? Why can't it be excessive CoA?

 

[kekaro]

Because Lightning is coc for zoro.

Thats something you claim yes
I am asking why that is according to you, why does Luffy get both according to you, and zoro one, is it oda being schizo again according to you?

 

[HA001]

Thats something you claim yes
I am asking why that is according to you, why does Luffy get both according to you, and zoro one, is it oda being schizo again according to you?

It's not something I claim. It's a fact.

 

[HA001]

Prove? Why can't it be excessive CoA?

Because we've seen him use excessive coa on panel with enma and it have no lightning.