Future Events When facing Death Kaido will beg for mercy

Finalbeta

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#23
I feel like he won't necessarily beg for mercy if Oda wants to render that famous sentence about perfection found in death consistent.

I feel like it would make sense if Kaido dreamt a glorious death and not a boring one. Zoro is worthy enough and he will allegedy discover soon enough .
 

Doggo

Talent is something you make bloom.
#25
Maybe, but Kaido was out of it.

It's about seeing his reaction in face of death, we never got that. This is almost the equivalent of getting killed in his sleep:milaugh:
Dude literally got PTSD.
And is also disappointed that "no Oden 2.0 will ever emerge".
*Zoro enters the chat*

ZKK still not happening though.
 
#28
Oda made a big deal out of Kaido's desire to face death and his belief that in death a man perfects himself.

However, we also know that Kaido could not be killed by any means, so he has actually never felt what it's like to be on the brink of death.

This arc is inspired by the story of Momotaro, a young boy who goes to the Island of Onigashima northeast of Japan, where a band of "Devils" who terrorize the country have located their stronghold. He makes friends with a Monkey, a Dog and a Pheasant, and they manage to defeat the Devils and their leader.

What caught my attention was this part of the story




"It is not like you, big devil, to beg for mercy, is it?"

When faced with death, the chief of the devils in the story crumbles and begs for mercy, and in the end is taken as a captive by the Monkey.

I'm starting to think Oda's building up the same "twist" for Kaido.

Basically a reverse "D" moment. Having the man who found it impossible to face death, and is envious of others who have "perfected themselves in death", break down when he finally feels what it's like to face it himself.
Been saying this for the longest...
People who are obsessed of Yonko power level should not be brought down to this level are in for a huuuuuge low blow (Ric Flair Style) in near future....
 
#29
Well, if it fits the story this is based on, then it would not really be a fake out, would it ?

And Kaido's character has yet to be tested in face of imminent death. We only know what he thinks he'd feel about it, which might purposedly contrast his actual feelings when the time comes.
we actually don't know if he's never been tested in face of death. He possibly didn't always know that he was unkillable and also he might have been killable at some point. Maybe before he got his fruit
 
#30
we actually don't know if he's never been tested in face of death. He possibly didn't always know that he was unkillable and also he might have been killable at some point. Maybe before he got his fruit
You'd have to admit that it's an interesting narrative for the man who was introduced as unkillable and in search of a way to die because he thinks that one perfects himself in death, to end up reacting negatively when he finally get's a taste of what it feels like to be on death's door.

We've seen many times very much mortal characters facing their death with bravery, and this is Oda's one chance to showcase the opposite of that from a very strong character who's introduced as someone who can't be killed.

And if he does, it would go according to the story the Onigashima war and Kaido's character are based on.
 
#37
I think it’s more like once defeated Kaido will tell Luffy to finish him and Luffy will tell him he no. Luffy doesn’t allow his enemies to achieve their goals.
 
#38
Thats weird and contradictory to alot of things. Like him saying he would of let sccabards kill him and him challenging groups of prople he had no chance of winning. Being tortured etc....
Well that would be the point.

He is built so that unlike any other character in One Piece, he did not experience his mortality. He seeks death and thinks that's what he wants, but if he get's there, we're going to see how he reacts to actually having that experience.
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It's very often that contrasts are used in fiction. You guys should always check the other side of the coin as something with significant potential, or you'll get blindsided often if you solely build your expectations based on a very straightforward line thinking.
 
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#39
Well that would be the point.

He is built so that unlike any other character in One Piece, he did not experience his mortality. He seeks death and thinks that's what he wants, but if he get's there, we're going to see how he reacts to actually having that experience.
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It's very often that contrasts are used in fiction. You guys should always check the other side of the coin as something with significant potential, or you'll get blindsided often if you solely build your expectations on a very straightforward line thinking.
I wamt to see the flashbacks, because i think they put him through hell.
 
#40
I wamt to see the flashbacks, because i think they put him through hell.
It's possible, but he's clearly disatisfied with his inability to die, even by killing himself, so that's one experience he lacks, feeling that he's about to die.

Or hey, maybe he actually did and already failed once in handling it the way he wish he would have. Maybe he tries to replicate that experience so that he can repent, and earn himself the kind of death he's envious Oden or Whitebeard had.
 
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