Future Events When Yamato, Carrot, O-Tama, and Vivi all join the crew, who will trigger people most?

Who will generate the most hate when/if they join the crew?


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#22
Definitely Tama.

It's easy to meme on Carrot and all but at least she's a teenager and at least can do something.

Tama is a liability . Unless she's got Mihawk's baboon's under her control, she's useless.
I'd imagine she'd have some of her Beast Pirate friends travel with her, if Tama joined the crew. Not the best defense force, but much better than nothing. I would have been more scared pre-Wano: adding Yamato and Jinbei to the crew gives them a lot more security. Wait, I actually have Mihawk coming to Wano... if you just predicted Tama controlling the Humandrills I'll laugh very hard.

Yeah, Carrot is underrated in terms of usefullness. Having multiple sharp-sighted individuals on a ship is great, and her speed and senses allows her to do scouting. Also, Sulong Carrot is pretty strong, capable of decimating ships in naval combat.
 

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#24
Carrot isn't underage in Japan though, the age of consent is 13.
No, this is stupid internet misinformation. Carrot is a cartoon character and isn't from Japan, to begin with, but Japan takes sex crime seriously. The Japanese porn industry is MUCH better than the porn industry in the US when it comes to respecting sex workers.

Japan leaves the age of consent up to individual prefectures, and has a national age no one can go below. So, Tokyo, for example:

"Japan statutory rape law is violated when an individual has consensual sexual contact with a person under age 13. At 13, Japan's base age of consent is the lowest of any developed country. However, many prefectures also have local "corruption of minors" or "obscenity statutes" (淫行条例) which raise the de-facto age of consent to 16-18, unless they are in a "sincere romantic relationship", usually determined by parental consent. For example, the effective age of consent in Tokyo by local statute is 18. The age of marriage is 16 for girls and 18 for boys with parental permission, and 20 otherwise (as stated in " ナス邃「窶慊カ窶「ナクナスニ停?邸", the Child Welfare Act of Japan."

Japan is a great country, though not perfect, who takes protecting young people seriously. Anime isn't real life. If you try to hit on 13-year-old girls in Japan, you'll get arrested, as you should be.

I don't care if people simp for a cartoon rabbit, but there is NO way a 13-year-old should be doing things with a grown-ass-adult, and most Japanese know that.
 
#25
No, this is stupid internet misinformation. Carrot is a cartoon character and isn't from Japan, to begin with, but Japan takes sex crime seriously. The Japanese porn industry is MUCH better than the porn industry in the US when it comes to respecting sex workers.

Japan leaves the age of consent up to individual prefectures, and has a national age no one can go below. So, Tokyo, for example:

"Japan statutory rape law is violated when an individual has consensual sexual contact with a person under age 13. At 13, Japan's base age of consent is the lowest of any developed country. However, many prefectures also have local "corruption of minors" or "obscenity statutes" (淫行条例) which raise the de-facto age of consent to 16-18, unless they are in a "sincere romantic relationship", usually determined by parental consent. For example, the effective age of consent in Tokyo by local statute is 18. The age of marriage is 16 for girls and 18 for boys with parental permission, and 20 otherwise (as stated in " ナス邃「窶慊カ窶「ナクナスニ停?邸", the Child Welfare Act of Japan."

Japan is a great country, though not perfect, who takes protecting young people seriously. Anime isn't real life. If you try to hit on 13-year-old girls in Japan, you'll get arrested, as you should be.

I don't care if people simp for a cartoon rabbit, but there is NO way a 13-year-old should be doing things with a grown-ass-adult, and most Japanese know that.
unless they are in a sincere romantic relationship... that's kind of the point, well done copying wikipedia and having zero reading comprehension when doing so, don't "spread misinformation".

Intention is everything, the idea is that if the 18 year old is a good faith actor (not some weird deviant acting on some age related fetish and trying to abuse a teenager's naivete and lie to them to pump and dump them) and genuinely are telling the truth with good intentions that someone under 16 could reasonably consent to such a proposition. What age do you think people should be allowed to take puberty blockers for transition?

An 18 year old "woman" who is genuinely dating with the intention to marry a 15 year 11 month old "boy"- these sort of things get kind of grey in most people's minds. Realistically across the world, even in countries where it is NOT legal, plenty of 15 year olds are having sex with 16-18 year olds in their school/ social circle.

Carrot, ultimately is not under the age of consent, but 21yo Sanji couldn't lie to her to try and get her to sleep with him, wheras if she was 18 he could legally lie and promise her the moon, then pump and dump her in this bizarre hypothetical.
 

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#26
unless they are in a sincere romantic relationship... that's kind of the point, well done copying wikipedia and having zero reading comprehension when doing so, don't "spread misinformation".

Intention is everything, the idea is that if the 18 year old is a good faith actor (not some weird deviant acting on some age related fetish and trying to abuse a teenager's naivete and lie to them to pump and dump them) and genuinely are telling the truth with good intentions that someone under 16 could reasonably consent to such a proposition. What age do you think people should be allowed to take puberty blockers for transition?

An 18 year old "woman" who is genuinely dating with the intention to marry a 15 year 11 month old "boy"- these sort of things get kind of grey in most people's minds. Realistically across the world, even in countries where it is NOT legal, plenty of 15 year olds are having sex with 16-18 year olds in their school/ social circle.

Carrot, ultimately is not under the age of consent, but 21yo Sanji couldn't lie to her to try and get her to sleep with him, wheras if she was 18 he could legally lie and promise her the moon, then pump and dump her in this bizarre hypothetical.
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People over 16 who want to be in "sincere" romantic relationships so they can have sex with 13-year-old girls is why this species is going to fucking hell. Listen, there's nothing wrong with simping for fictional characters, I don't care if you want to fuck a fictional rabbit-girl: real 13-year-old girls should not be having sex with young men who are well into puberty and nearly twice their size.

Also, you're wrong, if you pull this shit in Japan, YOU WILL GO TO JAIL.

Finally, fuck the law. I don't need rich idiots sitting around some giant room bickering with each other to tell me it's wrong to dick a child. Gosh, I hope you're trolling.
 
#29
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People over 16 who want to be in "sincere" romantic relationships so they can have sex with 13-year-old girls is why this species is going to fucking hell. Listen, there's nothing wrong with simping for fictional characters, I don't care if you want to fuck a fictional rabbit-girl: real 13-year-old girls should not be having sex with young men who are well into puberty and nearly twice their size.

Also, you're wrong, if you pull this shit in Japan, YOU WILL GO TO JAIL.

Finally, fuck the law. I don't need rich idiots sitting around some giant room bickering with each other to tell me it's wrong to dick a child. Gosh, I hope you're trolling.
"This species", as with all species, is "designed" to have sex once menstruation commences. Don't evoke some Darwinian naturalistic decline, this isn't an issue of the "species", but society, it doesn't work for modern society to have people get pregnant when they cannot even financially support themselves, teenagers having sex with each other has been going on since the dawn of the species. Some teenagers at age 14 are hardened due to hard living conditions, some can maintain their innocence for a lot longer. From a cursory search to support this statement with data: in America a cumulative 20% of black teenage girls have sex by 15 , 10% of white teenage girls in the same age range, and asian american girls aren't caught up even at 17. (image taken from https://www.contraceptionjournal.org/article/S0010-7824(09)00051-1/fulltext, you might not have access).

I just find it strange for you to lie about Japanese law and impose modern western standards to a non human fictional character created by a 50 year old Japanese man.

If a well intentioned 18 year old is up front about this and the parents agree then no, they will not go to jail, the prerequisite for it to be legal is that you are in a genuine loving relationship, not some sick fetishist looking to lie and game the system. This isn't some weird workaround for pedos or "MAPs", but for edge cases.

Answer my question around puberty blockers rather than dodge it. If you can't under any circumstance at 15, even genuine love from both sides, consent to sex, how can you consent to such a medication at 11?
 
#35
If I'm not mistaken, in an old interview Oda said the next crewmates would join one after another.
I don't think he was talking about the Grand Fleet.
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And also, I don't think Vivi is even up for debate. The end of Alabasta made it clear that the moment they meet again she'll be fully regarded as one of the Straw Hats.
 
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#36
If I'm not mistaken, in an old interview Oda said the next crewmates would join one after another.
I don't think he was talking about the Grand Fleet.
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And also, I don't think Vivi is even up for debate. The end of Alabasta made it clear that the moment they meet again she'll be fully regarded as one of the Straw Hats.
I have no idea how it's a debate. The entire reason the end of Alabasta, with the raised arms and the X's hit so hard, was because it showed that Vivi would always be a Straw Hat. I think it just took so long that people assumed she wouldn't join.

The Nakama Thread is going to be a fucking mess by the end of Wano, oi.
 
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