Character Discussion Where does this idea that Law is the new gen Whitebeard come from?

[Yoho]

If and this is a BIG IF

katakuri continues to grow stronger then of all the characters he is the one that parallels whitebeard the closest

Both of their captains where considered power houses of their times

both of their captains (rocks allegedly) got taken down in a 2 v 1

both consider family more important than anything else

They're both the only two characters in the story that don't use a sword as a bladed weapon (from. What i recall)

WB uses his Bisento which falls under the pole arm category of weapons

Kat uses his trident which i believe would also be considered a pole arm


theres probably more similarities between them but what i listed are the most obvious

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Law is more akin to being the new gen's Oden, as WB (as far as we know) never allied himself with Roger. However, there are mirror panels from chapters #585 and #966 hinting that the new Oden is actually Sabo, although I can't see any actual parallels (besides their power levels maybe).

In any case, the new gen pirates aren't a 100% parallel to the old legends, even if we can find many similarities.

Sabo and Oden:
- Noble birth but preferred the Lawless lands of their country
- Had an “adopted” brother who eventually became leader of their nation
- Left the nation with a top tier who was visiting
- Became the number two of said top tiers organization
- Sabo dreams of writing a book of adventures like Odens famous journal
- is called the brother of the clear Whitebeard and Roger parallels
- Just declared war on a literal dragon

 

[Dragon777]

Law is more akin to being the new gen's Oden, as WB (as far as we know) never allied himself with Roger. However, there are mirror panels from chapters #585 and #966 hinting that the new Oden is actually Sabo, although I can't see any actual parallels (besides their power levels maybe).

Considering this, Ace is the closest to being the new gen's WB (he just died early, but he did want to follow his captain's dream).

In any case, the new gen pirates aren't a 100% parallel to the old legends, even if we can find many similarities.

Sabo Is Ace with a different dream and plot.

Sabo even had an open disdain for his parents/family, as Ace.

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

Sabo and Oden:
- Noble birth but preferred the Lawless lands of their country
- Had an “adopted” brother who eventually became leader of their nation
- Left the nation with a top tier who was visiting
- Became the number two of said top tiers organization
- Sabo dreams of writing a book of adventures like Odens famous journal
- is called the brother of the clear Whitebeard and Roger parallels
- Just declared war on a literal dragon

This is on point, thank you sir. He initially intended to leave on his own and actually turned to be a revo, but we can really make some good parallels.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Zoro always was new wb

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

Sabo Is Ace with a different dream and plot.

Sabo even had an open disdain for his parents/family, as Ace.

Oh yeah, he does look like an Ace 2.0 too, especially after helping Luffy in Dressrosa and eating the Mera Mera no Mi.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

This is on point, thank you sir. He initially intended to leave on his own and actually turned to be a revo, but we can really make some good parallels.

You know who else attempted to leave their island on their own but failed until the top tier landed?

Kozuki Oden

 

[park_min young]

Nah a Non CoC user equals non CoC user.

Trolling is easy but Law has shown nothing to he above Sanji much less being close to Zoro.

I’m not trolling, Zoro is Sanji’s equal as implicitly stated through Gaban and countless other interactions.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Nah a Non CoC user equals non CoC user.

Law and kid?

 

[grey matter]

Zoro is mihawk stick to your BBS

Really though, Mihawk is the mid gen equivalent of Whitebeard.

Shanks mid gen Roger (rubber stamped), while Mihawk mid gen Whitebeard
- friendly rivals who drink together
- Shanks is a yonko, Mihawk not interested in being one
- portrayed as very damn close to each other in power, one has a world strongest title

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pretty forced parallel lol ,
I remember kidd fans used to argue for the same

Kid actually had a legit shot there.

I honestly thought kid was going to be that guy too, especially during the udon prison days.
- both conquerors
- both have partner type RHM who are supernova
- kid had highest bounty pre TS
- both are unreasonably stubborn
- we kinda saw kid making his own independent plans out of TS, showing a journey like Luffy to take on a yonko
Etc

 

[Franosuke]

Law is not the new WB. He shares a few similarities with Whitebeard.

When someone is the "new X," it is laughably apparent. Like Sanji and Gaban.

Hell, Sanji and Rayleigh (a silly parallel) have about as many similarities as Law and Whitebeard.

 

[kekaro]

Really though, Mihawk is the mid gen equivalent of Whitebeard.

Shanks mid gen Roger (rubber stamped), while Mihawk mid gen Whitebeard
- friendly rivals who drink together
- Shanks is a yonko, Mihawk not interested in being one
- portrayed as very damn close to each other in power, one has a world strongest title

Nah i disagree
Not only is Shanks failed to become something beyond a "mere yonko", those title existing at the same time shuts that down. If anything it would be shanks, Whitebeard chose against ambition and the chance of standing on top, chosing family, while Mihawk clearly mocks/resent Shanks for rejecting his chance, betting on the new generation (people/family), meaning in this equation it would be Shanks who is similar to WB.

I dont really even care about that tho because:

OP is right Oda is on the nose with the parallels. If oda wants a WSM EoS he will make it clear without a doubt. Like you need to be disingenuous for example to think that Roger Rayleigh and Gaban are not one of Luffy Zoro Sanji parallel, despite some low IQ people denying the last one till 2 weeks ago.

Mine bet for EoS is: If there is gonna be a WSW/Whitebeard follower, we will someone, or the narrator, pretty much state it.
I imagine a scene like Madara vs Guy where he declares him the strongest at the minimum.

If not WB is just him without equal through time

 

[park_min young]

Roger had 3 rival captains that are now considered legends — WB, Shiki, Xebec; That’s Law, Kid and Teach.

It‘s not a 1:1, neither is Coby to Garp. Coby is a pussy and look where he’s headed. When Law comes back, it will be more apparent what kind of figure he will be and his threat level - 5B (his fruit‘s bounty already foreshadowed it) class of legend like WB. His equal status to Luffy will be more apparent.

Hell, Oda never really let that idea go, his bounty updates are always on par with Luffy’s. Achievements are credited as good as Luffy’s, he gets yonko-esque portrayal post-Wano. He’s the rival figure that grew alongside Luffy no matter how many denies it. Teach was always ahead and Luffy had to play catch up, Teach is the new Xebec and Luffy‘s first (since Jaya arc) and greatest rival just like what Xebec was to Roger.

 

[grey matter]

Nah i disagree
Not only is Shanks failed to become something beyond a "mere yonko", those title existing at the same time shuts that down. If anything it would be shanks, Whitebeard chose against ambition and the chance of standing on top, chosing family, while Mihawk clearly mocks/resent Shanks for rejecting his chance, betting on the new generation (people/family), meaning in this equation it would be Shanks who is similar to WB.

I dont really even care about that tho because:

OP is right Oda is on the nose with the parallels. If oda wants a WSM EoS he will make it clear without a doubt. Like you need to be disingenuous for example that Roger Rayleigh and Gaban are not one of Luffy Zoro Sanji parallel, despite some low IQ people denying the last one till 2 weeks ago.

Mine bet for EoS is: If there is gonna be a WSW/Whitebeard follower, we will someone, or the narrator, pretty much state.
I imagine a scene like Madara vs Guy where he declares him the strongest at the minimum.

If not WB is just him without equal

The thing with parallels is that they aren't a 1:1 equivalence, but just similarities in the relationship.

Shanks very clearly is the mid gen equivalent of Roger (undeniable IMO).
And Mihawk is the closest thing Shanks has to a friendly rival with pretty much equal power.
Regardless of what Zoro is, Mihawk quite clearly is the WB equivalent to Shanks.

And yeah, obviously the monster trio portrayal is there. Roger/Rayleigh/Gaban is a clear portrayal.
But characters aren't fixed to single parallel.
Oden for example, was portrayed with both Luffy and Zoro in wano. Then there was the "Joyboy" and Ryuma portrayal too in wano.

There is no clear WB parallel in new gen (I used to think it was going to be Kid back in the days). But if we have to choose, Zoro fits the most.
Zoro being a Luffy underling doesn't necessarily take this away from him. Look at Coby, dude is quite obviously the Garp parallel and he's a massive Luffy fanboy, looks upto Zoro and cries at the mention of Luffy's name lol.

 

[Yoho]

Roger had 3 rival captains that are now considered legends — WB, Shiki, Xebec; That’s Law, Kid and Teach.

It‘s not a 1:1, neither is Coby to Garp. Coby is a pussy and look where he’s headed. When Law comes back, it will be more apparent what kind of figure he will be and his threat level - 5B (his fruit‘s bounty already foreshadowed it) class of legend like WB. His equal status to Luffy will be more apparent.

Hell, Oda never really let that idea go, his bounty updates are always on par with Luffy’s. Achievements are credited as good as Luffy’s, he gets yonko-esque portrayal post-Wano. He’s the rival figure that grew alongside Luffy no matter how many denies it. Teach was always ahead and Luffy had to play catch up, Teach is the new Xebec and Luffy‘s first (since Jaya arc) and greatest rival just like what Xebec was to Roger.

To be fair we never seen 18 year old Garp it's possible he was a pussy once upon a time

 

[God Buggy]

Law is a candidate, but if not...

GreenGoat put that brat in a cage

 

[JDragon20]

It's a Law fan cope that spread around. BB is literally evil WB bruh it's too obvious 😭

 

[kekaro]

The thing with parallels is that they aren't a 1:1 equivalence, but just similarities in the relationship.

Shanks very clearly is the mid gen equivalent of Roger (undeniable IMO).
And Mihawk is the closest thing Shanks has to a friendly rival with pretty much equal power.
Regardless of what Zoro is, Mihawk quite clearly is the WB equivalent to Shanks.

And yeah, obviously the monster trio portrayal is there. Roger/Rayleigh/Gaban is a clear portrayal.
But characters aren't fixed to single parallel.
Oden for example, was portrayed with both Luffy and Zoro in wano. Then there was the "Joyboy" and Ryuma portrayal too in wano.

There is no clear WB parallel in new gen (I used to think it was going to be Kid back in the days). But if we have to choose, Zoro fits the most.
Zoro being a Luffy underling doesn't necessarily take this away from him. Look at Coby, dude is quite obviously the Garp parallel and he's a massive Luffy fanboy, looks upto Zoro and cries at the mention of Luffy's name lol.

I know they are not exact, but with the case of shanks and mihawk is not about similiarties, its about the core.

Like if Gaban would lets say hate woman for example, no one in their right mind would call him a Sanji parallel. Mihawk is diametrically opposed to Whitebeard. It just isnt there even 1% imo.

And yeah characters can have multiple parallels, no disagreement on that.

As for looking for similarities in the new gen like i said i dont think this is not neccesary. If we go by "counting" its clearly Blackbeard that makes most sense.
However i think oda will just say who is it. If not its not there
Like coby is not a good example to debunk that because coby is inherently tied in the story with garp for over 1000 chapters to the point his defeat ties to him, similiar to shanks vs the fish, similiar to Luffy and Shanks
This doesnt convince me one bit that zoro could work

 

[[No Name]]

Roger wb
Shanks mihawk
Luffy zoro

Ones above all

Law is a fucking bum cry

Megazine written by fans who has Cavendish as zoro rival. An other Megazine has sanji as equal to zoro BTW.

 

[thisnewtechnique]

I never seem this comparison. But you mean Law is the goat?