Controversial Which antagonist would yall say was in the right?

[M944]

Smoker, Fujitora (if he's counted as a vilain) That's all

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Me personally I'd say Both Magellan and Akainu they where simply doing their jobs, nothing more nothing less neither of them are pure evil or only interested in their own self interest. They both had a job to do and they did it to the best of their abilities

''Doing their job'' is shitty excuse for inability to take responsibility for one's own actions

Magellan is acceptable, he's a jailer, but Akainu? Akainu bombing civilian ships was just doing his job. Slaughtering people for possibly having read books is so right.


People like Smoker and Vivi, that don't end up being actual bossfights, are actually doing things for a good cause and are reasonable people, are in the right.

W post

Most countries through history did way worse to deserters. Nothing wrong on killing coward traitors if you have the rightful authority to take this decision on the field.

L opinion

 

[Juanpiz]

Ikr if he wants to direct criticism towards magellan he should mention how he set shiryu free

 

[Thunderbolt]

Lol people are mad that Akainu killed a coward betraying the organization? He did the right thing, everyones there laying down their lives and that rat tries to slip away to safety as if he’s worth more or like he didn’t take some military oath to protect.

 

[Juanpiz]

Ikr if he wants to direct criticism towards magellan he should mention how he set shiryu free

 

[ClovenHoofClown]

setting shiryu free was more of a stupid decision than an immoral one

 

[Malakhith]

theres no way impel down can be justified, and unless it was anime only magellan literally killed a bunch of prisoners just because they were being loud and annoying

It's show multiple times that ID is not only a prison but a way to execute prisoners in the most painful way possible. Part of Magellan duties is killing scum and deliver proper punishment. He would only get in trouble if he went excessive on their asses, like the other warden.

Special note for the fact that level 6 prisoners are only alive because of mercy (in the sense that the WG wants them to pay for their crimes and death is a release) and not because they could be released later. They were erased from history for a reason.

Look again to the situation by the perspective of a WG employee: the prisoners started to get rowdy, Magellan warned that it would have consequences if they continued, they didn't stop and Magellan decided that they aren't worth of the trouble. Not only this serves as a way to keep his authority but solves the issue immediately. There's a reason why people don't cross Magellan.

Shiryu of the Rain was the opposite. He was considered a psycho because he killed without rime or reason and went overbord, so he was given a time out to calm down.

 

[ClovenHoofClown]

Lol people are mad that Akainu killed a coward betraying the organization? He did the right thing, everyones there laying down their lives and that rat tries to slip away to safety…

>akainu sitting his ass down and not doing shit as hundreds if not thousands of far less capable marines die before he starts getting active
this applies to all of the admirals, but still

 

[M944]

Lol people are mad that Akainu killed a coward betraying the organization? He did the right thing, everyones there laying down their lives and that rat tries to slip away to safety as if he’s worth more or like he didn’t take some military oath to protect.

They betrayed nothing the goal was killing Ace
They got Ace + WB's head so it was useless to continue the fight and wasting Marine's soldiers life just for a Bunch of pirates who will never fight again
Akainu has no right to Kill them they are not traitors

 

[Juanpiz]

They betrayed nothing the goal was killing Ace
They got Ace + WB's head so it was useless to continue the fight and wasting Marine's soldiers life just for a Bunch of pirates who will never fight again
Akainu has no right to Kill them they are not traitors

That bb and Luffy became Yonkos later proves that akainu was right

 

[ClovenHoofClown]

akainu ran away to his desk for 2+ years
the real traitor fr fr

 

[Malakhith]

They betrayed nothing the goal was killing Ace
They got Ace + WB's head so it was useless to continue the fight and wasting Marine's soldiers life just for a Bunch of pirates who will never fight again
Akainu has no right to Kill them they are not traitors

After Ace was killed the Admirals and Marines gave additional orders and objectives to be completed: killing pirates. It's not a foot soldier job to question the orders of their superior officers, man. It's not even necessary for most of them to know all the objectives of their mission. They need to get in line and follow orders.

 

[Thunderbolt]

They betrayed nothing the goal was killing Ace
They got Ace + WB's head so it was useless to continue the fight and wasting Marine's soldiers life just for a Bunch of pirates who will never fight again
Akainu has no right to Kill them they are not traitors

Real life deserters be like.

Don’t join the Marines if you aren’t prepared to put your life on the line.

 

[M944]

That bb and Luffy became Yonkos later proves that akainu was right

The marines soldiers he Killed were charged to kill WB's allies not Luffy or BB
It's Admirals + Sengoku and Garp who went for BB + Luffy

 

[Malakhith]

Ikr if he wants to direct criticism towards magellan he should mention how he set shiryu free

That was dumb of him but I can understand: most Marines don't see a issue in killing criminals as if they aren't people. So Magellan never thought that a Marine would be such a rat, specially when he went overboard killing prisoners. A oversight. It's like expecting a cat to join the rats.

 

[Juanpiz]

That was dumb of him but I can understand: most Marines don't see a issue in killing criminals as if they aren't people. So Magellan never thought that a Marine would be such a rat, specially when he went overboard killing prisoners. A oversight. It's like expecting a cat to join the rats.

BB:thanks for the help.. Wanna join me?
Shiryu :ok lol

 

[M944]

After Ace was killed the Admirals and Marines gave additional orders and objectives to be completed: killing pirates. It's not a foot soldier job to question the orders of their superior officers, man. It's not even necessary for most of them to know all the objectives of their mission. They need to get in line and follow orders.

Orders came from Sengoku who is the Real Chief of Marine side
Oda made it clear the several Times as far as I remember the battle was supposed to be over After Ace + WB's deaths

Akainu did Kill marine soldiers only because they didn't Obey to his justice

It explains why those soldiers like Coby weren't Killed or fired from the Navy After the War

 

[Juanpiz]

The marines soldiers he Killed were charged to kill WB's allies not Luffy or BB
It's Admirals + Sengoku and Garp who went for BB + Luffy

Still the continuation of fighting was NOT purposeless considering bb made the situation unexpectedly worse

 

[M944]

Real life deserters be like.

Don’t join the Marines if you aren’t prepared to put your life on the line.

I wouldn't engage myself fighting for OP Navy for sure I'm not a sheep who follows orders just to follow orders
I don't need someone to tell me what is good

 

[Thunderbolt]

I wouldn't engage myself fighting for OP Navy for sure I'm not a sheep who follows orders just to follow orders
I don't need someone to tell me what is good