Questions & Mysteries Which DF will Jesus Burgess get?

[nik87]

he was an officer like oven perospero and daifuku

There is Raisin on the bottom, then there is Amande and then there is Smoothie who may be the best swordsman among BM pirates.
Then, there is Shiryu who is above all of them.
Even if we assume that Raisin is a good swordsman, ignoring the superior ranked Amande and Smoothie, how does a cheap shot help you prove your point? Do you expect the entire fight to be made of cheap-shots? What if Shiryu or even Raisin cheap-shots Sanji? All it takes for swordsman is one clean slice and the fight is over.

 

[pedxi]

There is Raisin on the bottom, then there is Amande and then there is Smoothie who may be the best swordsman among BM pirates.
Then, there is Shiryu who is above all of them.
Even if we assume that Raisin is a good swordsman, ignoring the superior ranked Amande and Smoothie, how does a cheap shot help you prove your point? Do you expect the entire fight to be made of cheap-shots? What if Shiryu or even Raisin cheap-shots Sanji? All it takes for swordsman is one clean slice and the fight is over.

Sanji is not going down with just on shot even in your head canons

 

[Haku]

It's not hard to realize that Sanji would have trouble against swordsmen, especially someone like Shiryu. Oda would need to make Shiryu into a shitty swordsman for Sanji to win because Sanji taking clean hits and surviving Shiryu aint happening, same as Shiryu never landing a clean hit on Sanji...

Sanji isnt Fujitora nor does he have FS and aside from those scenarios we havent seen what CoO actually does mid-combat, they have been dodging stuff long before CoO was a thing so lets not attribute such things to CoO. From what I see, very little to no use from CoO.

Idk, how would that fight look like? We are looking at empty panels?

Sanji as of now hasn't had a problem with swordman. You pretty much saying that if someone has a sword will win against someone that wouldn't have a sword and that is not necessarily the case

That is all COO does pretty much mid-battle. That is what we have to attribute to COO... Obviously, by this point (Just in case by this point I mean facing Burges or Shiryu or whoever), Sanji has to have some form of advance COO...

Yeah wouldn't it be dope, hahaha a pure COO battle where they can't see each other? Obviously we will be able to see them, Just like mos cases when someone is invisible in anime or manga we see the outline or something like this:

Spoiler: Invisible anime person

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Lol just noticed this was a thread about what DF burgess would get. My bad sumimasen!!!

 

[pedxi]

i personally think he will get jozu's df
and he will face Sanji
Sanji will save the swordsman for Zoro
Burgess is a wrestler and mostly use his hands to fight, Sanji is the opposite of him and he will use a dj hot enough to damage diamond

 

[Robin swan]

I think jozu df fits him best so if burgess gets 1 it should be his imo.

 

[nik87]

Sanji is not going down with just on shot even in your head canons

From one shot he isnt but from one clean slice he is, everyone so far has fallen to one clean slice, except recently Jack but that attack was going through a sword first. One clean slice from a sword will not only take Sanji out, but it will also take anyone out except some monsters like Kaido and BM. I dont know where you got the idea that Sanji can be cut clean and still be in the combat...

Sanji as of now hasn't had a problem with swordman. You pretty much saying that if someone has a sword will win against someone that wouldn't have a sword and that is not necessarily the case
That is all COO does pretty much mid-battle. That is what we have to attribute to COO... Obviously, by this point (Just in case by this point I mean facing Burges or Shiryu or whoever), Sanji has to have some form of advance COO...

Sanji never had a problem with swordsman because he never had to take on one as his main fight of any arc. That isnt a coincidence.
A fight where Sanji is the underdog and the opponent is swordsman yes, Sanji cant win.

Why are we attributing dodging and evading to CoO when that has been done to the same degree before when CoO didnt exist?
Reflexes stopped being a thing since CoO was introduced? :unsure:

 

[Diamond]

I like the idea of him getting Jozu's fruit. It seems to compliment Burgess' fighting style the best, imo.

 

[pedxi]

From one shot he isnt but from one clean slice he is, everyone so far has fallen to one clean slice, except recently Jack but that attack was going through a sword first. One clean slice from a sword will not only take Sanji out, but it will also take anyone out except some monsters like Kaido and BM. I dont know where you got the idea that Sanji can be cut clean and still be in the combat...

Sanji never had a problem with swordsman because he never had to take on one as his main fight of any arc. That isnt a coincidence.
A fight where Sanji is the underdog and the opponent is swordsman yes, Sanji cant win.

Why are we attributing dodging and evading to CoO when that has been done to the same degree before when CoO didnt exist?
Reflexes stopped being a thing since CoO was introduced? :unsure:

doffy got better slashing powers than zoro and he hit sanji with five colored string and he didn't went down
post ur head canons and idea's in another thread that related to Sanji's durability this thread is about which devil fruit burgess will get thank you for sharing ur thought you're free to leave here

 

[Haku]

From one shot he isnt but from one clean slice he is, everyone so far has fallen to one clean slice, except recently Jack but that attack was going through a sword first. One clean slice from a sword will not only take Sanji out, but it will also take anyone out except some monsters like Kaido and BM. I dont know where you got the idea that Sanji can be cut clean and still be in the combat...

Sanji never had a problem with swordsman because he never had to take on one as his main fight of any arc. That isnt a coincidence.
A fight where Sanji is the underdog and the opponent is swordsman yes, Sanji cant win.

Why are we attributing dodging and evading to CoO when that has been done to the same degree before when CoO didnt exist?
Reflexes stopped being a thing since CoO was introduced? :unsure:

COO helps you, predict better, therefore, doge better. COO at high levels you can predict the future. Reflexes are still there... there is no reason why you can have one and not the other one... After all reflex is the action to respond to something without much thought. COO is a prediction power, not an action to respond to something.

Lol you just said it yourself if he gets cut and has to be a huge as cut... Btw that applies to swordsmen as well anyone who gets a clean cut will probably stop fighting unless is a Yonko and we talking a big cut death blow level. Because both in one piece and anime in general one clean cut is not enough... to put almost no one of importance down...

btw This off topic... we can creat a thread or you pm me if you want to continue

 

[nik87]

doffy got better slashing powers than zoro and he hit sanji with five colored string and he didn't went down
post ur head canons and idea's in another thread that related to Sanji's durability this thread is about which devil fruit burgess will get thank you for sharing ur thought you're free to leave here

It's your headcanon to compare a stringman to a proper swordsman. Incomparable.

COO helps you, predict better, therefore, doge better. COO at high levels you can predict the future. Reflexes are still there... there is no reason why you can have one and not the other one... After all reflex is the action to respond to something without much thought. COO is a prediction power, not an action to respond to something.

CoO is a limited resource just like CoA, I doubt it is being spammed 24/7 when there is no need for it, especially on hot-headed character like Luffy who have trouble calming down.

Lol you just said it yourself if he gets cut and has to be a huge as cut... Btw that applies to swordsmen as well anyone who gets a clean cut will probably stop fighting unless is a Yonko and we talking a big cut death blow level. Because both in one piece and anime in general one clean cut is not enough... to put almost no one of importance down...

When has a clean slice been a small one? Yes, it applies to swordsmen as well but there is something obvious that prevents them from being cut, their own swords which they use to block other swords. What is Sanji going to use to block the swords with?
Do you suggest that Sanji beats Shiryu without getting hit even once by him?

 

[Haku]

It's your headcanon to compare a stringman to a proper swordsman. Incomparable.


CoO is a limited resource just like CoA, I doubt it is being spammed 24/7 when there is no need for it, especially on hot-headed character like Luffy who have trouble calming down.

When has a clean slice been a small one? Yes, it applies to swordsmen as well but there is something obvious that prevents them from being cut, their own swords which they use to block other swords. What is Sanji going to use to block the swords with?
Do you suggest that Sanji beats Shiryu without getting hit even once by him?

Definitely is limited that is why you train to have stronger or more persistent. Just as everything else in the fighting. Lol he can't get cut just not cut in half... You practically saying that someone who doesn't have a sword can't fight someone with a sword. You can 1 doge 2 blocks, not on the blade. You are specifically saying swords can't be blocked because they cut if is not with another blade which is simply not true.

Btw again let's stay on topic Burgess DF, you can open a thread about this and tag me gladly I will keep debating. But this is already way of the topic of this thread. This will be my last post on this thread about this specific topic.

 

[OmegaPsyche]

None of them.

I think BB got the diamond df from the war with WB Pirates.

BM Pirates dfs are too crappy.

I don't see Marco fighting BB Pirates for a 2nd time. Also Burgess is too buffed to turn into a bird, he would look goofy.

 

[Finalbeta]

About Marco's DF I can't see anyone but Weevil taking it if that's bound to happen

 

[Blackflamesanji]

if he get diamond fruit, he will Ended up fighting zoro since him cutting a Diamond was the thing that had been theorized to death by zoro fanboys.

 

[LolonoisZolo]

Jozu's would be perfect

 

[Formerly Seth]

Useful Useful no Mi which grants fodders the ability to be relevant in the story.
No Zoro will not get it. ( I anticipated your likely answer ez ).

 

[Jackteo]

I think he will get Aokiji's DF, he is in need of an overpowered one to fight against our helmsman

I changed my mind. Welcome Phoenix Burgess vs Sanji

 

[Lunaria]

Hito Hito no mi, Model: Daibutsu would fit him very well. Not only it's an extremely powerful Myhtical Zoan but it would allow Burgess to become significantly stronger without having to modify his fighting style in the slightest. The user can't hit with his legs because they're too small, Burgess already has very small legs and only fights with his fists. His punching power is already very high so I can only imagine how lethal his fists would be if he could shockwave-punch his opponents. Even from a visual standpoint, the golden statue form would go very well with Jesus' design. I think it's the perfect DF for him.

And even if I like Sengoku, he served his purpose in the story. He retired and probably has nothing to offer the story anymore.

 

[Doc]

Though his fighting style would have to adapt a whip of some kind, I personally believe Burgess will end up with the Hito Hito no mi, Model: Kirisuto. I think this makes perfect sense for when Sanji inevitably gets Marco's phoenix fruit.

 

[Tobra]

monkey monkey zoan df model:gorilla