Speculations Which monke will stand up first?

Who stands up first?

  • Kizaru

  • Nika

  • Both at the same time


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#62
You can argue Luffy got up first since it seems he just jumped towards the food machine.
Not that it matters, it doesn't show who won the fight, but still.
No you can’t unless you’re trying to be purposefully disingenuous (which is business as usual for Admiral haters anyway).

Luffy had to be fed and is still not up even now despite Kizaru kicking his crewmates and putting them in danger.

Y’all just never learn. Don’t let your hate for the Admirals stop you from using basic reasoning.
:kayneshrug:
 
#63
No you can’t unless you’re trying to be purposefully disingenuous (which is business as usual for Admiral haters anyway).

Luffy had to be fed and is still not up even now despite Kizaru kicking his crewmates and putting them in danger.

Y’all just never learn. Don’t let your hate for the Admirals stop you from using basic reasoning.
:kayneshrug:
Am I to believe that Luffy just floated into the food machine?
 
#64
Agenda piece has never been this strong, we're about to see some wild and toxic next few chapters. All agendas hit a peak.

- Gorosei > Admiral agenda (run by Yonkou fans in disguise)
- Admiral agenda
- Godfy Top 1 agenda
- Zoro > Luffy agenda
- Wanji or Lanji agenda

This will be fun
:finally:
 
#67
And this "person who fed him and carried him", is he in the room with us?
See, this is the kind of intentional inanity I’m talking about.

You are going to sit there as a grown man and pretend you can’t comprehend that somebody provided food to Luffy to save him?

You hate the Admirals so much that you’d rather turn off your brain than give them an iota of acknowledgment
:seriously:
 
#71
So there's just as much proof that someone helped him as there is that he just got up and ran to it on his own.
There’s no weaselling your way out of it. Even if you want to claim he crawled over, someone still gave him the initial food to allow him to move at all, so absolutely someone helped him.

Even then, you’d be suggesting that Luffy left those he was trying to protect to die. And that he was recovered enough to use super speed but also was so depleted that he needed even more food to return to fighting shape while Kizaru was already terrorizing his friends.

Either way, it does little to salvage Luffy’s image or tarnish Kizaru’s.
It wouldn’t change that Kizaru could saunter over and kill Luffy any time, though it makes you seethe (not that I like it any better)…
 
#72
There’s no weaselling your way out of it. Even if you want to claim he crawled over, someone still gave him the initial food to allow him to move at all, so absolutely someone helped him.

Even then, you’d be suggesting that Luffy left those he was trying to protect to die. And that he was recovered enough to use super speed but awas so depleted that he needed even more food to return to fighting shape while Kizaru is already terrorizing his friends.

Either way, it does little to salvage Luffy’s image or tarnish Kizaru’s.
It wouldn’t change that Kizaru could saunter over and kill Luffy any time, though it makes you seethe.
Why would that make me seethe?
I don't care at all what Kizaru could do when Luffy's weakened. The fact of the matter is he got bested by healthy Luffy.
If he had to target him while he was down that'd make it even more embarrassing for him, in fact.
 
#73
Why would that make me seethe?
I don't care at all what Kizaru could do when Luffy's weakened. The fact of the matter is he got bested by healthy Luffy.
If he had to target him while he was down that'd make it even more embarrassing for him, in fact.
Because you clearly hate Kizaru and were desperately trying to claim it as a loss. You tried to downplay him despite being told otherwise…instead you just accused others of being wankers despite the story bearing them out instead of you.

Luffy was the one who started the fight with Kizaru, so there’d be nothing embarrassing of finishing off a Luffy that couldn’t keep up.
It just exposes your blatant bias since I doubt you claimed it was embarrassing for Kaido to attack an immobile Zoro lying on the floor.

You can’t hide your hatred when it comes to the Admirals. It’s as bright as Franky’s nipple lights.
 
#74
Because you clearly hate Kizaru and were desperately trying to claim it as a loss. You tried to downplay him despite being told otherwise…instead you just accused others of being wankers despite the story bearing them out instead of you.

Luffy was the one who started the fight with Kizaru, so there’d be nothing embarrassing of finishing off a Luffy that couldn’t keep up.
It just exposes your blatant bias since I doubt you claimed it was embarrassing for Kaido to attack an immobile Zoro lying on the floor.

You can’t hide your hatred when it comes to the Admirals. It’s as bright as Franky’s nipple lights.
I don't hate Kizaru lmao. How is him losing to Luffy me hating on him? Luffy is the fucking MC, it's expected for him to lose a fight to the MC of the manga.
 
#76
I don't hate Kizaru lmao. How is him losing to Luffy me hating on him? Luffy is the fucking MC, it's expected for him to lose a fight to the MC of the manga.
Lmao! The irony is palpable. Kizaru being knocked down momentarily is losing, yet you’d never be caught dead saying that Kaido lost to the Scabbards because they also momentarily knocked him down.

What a “loss” when Kizaru can kill Luffy and several of his crewmates while the latter is begging for food. You literally have to redefine the word just because it’s an Admiral involved and you don’t like it.

You employing double standards, being purposefully obtuse and feigning ignorance like you didn’t know that Luffy needed to be fed just shows how much you hate Kizaru.
You’d rather pretend to have no comprehension than admit anything that could seem like props to Kizaru.
You ain’t fooling anyone.
 
#77
Lmao! The irony is palpable. Kizaru being knocked down momentarily is losing, yet you’d never be caught dead saying that Kaido lost to the Scabbards because they also momentarily knocked him down.

What a “loss” when Kizaru can kill Luffy and several of his crewmates while the latter is begging for food. You literally have to redefine the word just because it’s an Admiral involved and you don’t like it.

You employing double standards, being purposefully obtuse and feigning ignorance like you didn’t know that Luffy needed to be fed just shows how much you hate Kizaru.
You’d rather pretend to have no comprehension than admit anything that could seem like props to Kizaru.
You ain’t fooling anyone.
Kaidou literally got up like 20 seconds after they did that.
They tried to charge at him and kill him and he got up before they did and proceeded to outright molest them.
 
#78
Kaidou literally got up like 20 seconds after they did that.
They tried to charge at him and kill him and he got up before they did and proceeded to outright molest them.
Congratulations! You can acknowledge that temporarily being knocked down isn’t a loss when it comes to a Yonko. When it comes to an Admiral though then it’s the opposite because you definitely don’t hate them, right?

Again, your double standards just make it apparent. It must be a miracle that you somehow always end up liking things that disparage the Admirals. Or purposefully ignoring simple & obvious things like Luffy being fed.

You didn’t end up with the usual suspects for nothing, even if your level of hate isn’t as extreme as the most notorious ones.
I’m just amazed that you don’t think it’s transparent as hell…
 
#79
Congratulations! You can acknowledge that temporarily being knocked down isn’t a loss when it comes to a Yonko. When it comes to an Admiral though then it’s the opposite because you definitely don’t hate them, right?

Again, your double standards just make it apparent. It must be a miracle that you somehow always end up liking things that disparage the Admirals. Or purposefully ignoring simple & obvious things like Luffy being fed.

You didn’t end up with the usual suspects for nothing, even if your level of hate isn’t as extreme as the most notorious ones.
I’m just amazed that you don’t think it’s transparent as hell…
Ngga I do not fucking care.
He got blitzed. He got paralyzed. His durability is inferior.
Even if he has superior stamina, that is literally all you can prove.
We have so many fucking panels of him being inferior to Luffy in speed and ap, it's really sad to see you out here waffling about him winning when he barely even hurt the man.
Give it a rest, and stop pinging me over this shit if you can't post panels to back you up.
 
#80
Ngga I do not fucking care.
He got blitzed. He got paralyzed. His durability is inferior.
Even if he has superior stamina, that is literally all you can prove.
We have so many fucking panels of him being inferior to Luffy in speed and ap, it's really sad to see you out here waffling about him winning when he barely even hurt the man.
Give it a rest, and stop pinging me over this shit if you can't post panels to back you up.
Lmao! Your comment definitely doesn’t read like that of someone who doesn’t care.

You ain’t fooling anyone. The thread itself is evidence when you were one of those that selected that Luffy would get up first despite Kizaru obviously being in much better shape to begin with.
That’s besides even claiming that Zoro would fight Kizaru instead of Luffy from the start. Plain silly.

You can seethe all you want, but it doesn’t change that you shouldn’t let your hatred of the Admirals blind you to common sense.
If you have to try and deny something as obvious as Luffy being fed, you’ve gone off the deep end.

I’m not even one of those claiming it as a win for anyone. I’ve maintained from the start that it was just inconclusive…but it’s undeniable now that if things were to continue, Kizaru could simply kill Luffy.
 
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