Break Week Which Theory Is Worse; ZKK or SKA

[JoNdule]

Says the person who is arguing Mihawk is yc level since MF - nearly a decade until proven wrong by oda himself.🤷

Zkk dude

Except I never said Mihawk is YC level lol
I always said if not for his WSS title, he'd be YC level
And I always rater Mihawk as inbetweener/low top tier then top tier then back to low top tier/inbetweener etc...

You're just salty you're a zkk believer, someone who doesn't understand One Piece
Breaking news: Mihawk is still below Admirals and Yonko. Still admitted inferiority to Sickbeard. Still has worse feats than high tiers

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I meant that your delusions are close to each, doesnt mean you agree on everything.




Also you dare to mock others when you have said things like this.




Zoro v Sanji was a random speculation from some readers, nothing serious.
ZKK was delusional.
Majority of Zoro fans never said that he will beat him.
Zoro is indeed close to become top tier. You are the one talking about ACoC = mightiest characters.

Please let people who know about one piece discuss in peace
Go to your zoro fandom club to wish for ZKK

 

[Owl Ki]

Luffy, kid, and law don’t have deep connections to kizaru, ryokugyu, or fujitora
That doesn’t mean a narrative can’t be made for them to fight

Big ol' difference between a character simply having absence of a narrative to fight somebody and a character supplanting an already existing narrative set up between somebody with the freaking Main Character.

That is the biggest problem with Shanks vs Akainu. There are already other characters with much more narratively compelling reasons to fight Akainu.

My whole basis for shanks vs akainu is the other potential matchups. Never claimed it was for more complex and hidden meanings

Well that just sounds weak and narratively unfulfilling. Lel.

Does he absolutely need to? No
Will he? I think there’s a good possibility
pirates and marines are enemies. Marines fight pirates. The marines might fight shanks. If akainu starts making big moves it will likely be against emperors and not some no named random crew in the grand line

Sassenach on a bike, what reasoning is this to put Shanks above Luffy for an Akainu fight? Luffy's a fucking Emperor now too.

Thematically idk
Luffy has bigger fish to fight than akainu namely imu
Sabo doesn’t need to fight akainu he should focus on his goal as a revolutionary aka the world government not the marines

Fantastic and Shanks has a major beef match to settle with Blackbeard, the bum he has been bitching about for most of his screen time.

 

[uyuu]

ZKK - Zoro Kills Kaido
SKA - Shanks Kills Akainu

SKA, courtesy of flat earther @Albino 👑, someone who actively slandered theories like ZKK for being outrageous, has now created his own version of ZKK

This is as thirsty as it gets, thinking Shanks is relevant enough powerwise, and storywise, to take down the primary antagonist of the strongest faction on the seas
At least ZKK had some ties to the lore with the Ryuuma connection and all, still a wack theory though, but imo not as delusional as this Shanks version of ZKK

Raised as pig for slaughter, this is the reality of Shanks character, he will never be as relevant as the main antagonists of the story

Spoiler

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Shanks fandom has never been united in making 1000 gymnastics and labeled them clear and unmistakable signs to an inevitable event of SKA.

 

[SakazOuki]

How y’all gonna claim and pretend dragon vs akainu has a good chance of happening when dragon wants nothing to do with the marines and had nothing to do with ace

Regardless of what Dragon wants, it can come down to
-Leader of the Revo army Vs Leader of the Naval armies
Dragon has nothing against the Marines, but if the Marines fight him he will act accordingly
-Akainu mentioning Dragon 5+ times in MF
-Same generation, potential old rivalry

It is not a lot, but still makes sense narratively as the leaders of opposing armies
It is treated as a possibility, unlike you being fixated on SKA out of sheer agenda 🤫

 

[Owl Ki]

Regardless of what Dragon wants, it can come down to
-Leader of the Revo army Vs Leader of the Naval armies
Dragon has nothing against the Marines, but if the Marines fight him he will act accordingly
-Akainu mentioning Dragon 5+ times in MF
-Same generation, potential old rivalry

It is not a lot, but still makes sense narratively as the leaders of opposing armies
It is treated as a possibility, unlike you being fixated on SKA out of sheer agenda 🤫

Also Akainu went out of way to murder Luffy purely for his genetic connection to Dragon. Something about "extinguishing the bloodline of criminals". Man had immediate beef with Luffy just for the latter being an overgrown sperm of Dragon. The rest of Luffy's criminal record was just a bonus incentive. 💀

 

[Albino 👑]

Big ol' difference between a character simply having absence of a narrative to fight somebody and a character supplanting an already existing narrative set up between somebody with the freaking Main Character.

That is the biggest problem with Shanks vs Akainu. There are already other characters with much more narratively compelling reasons to fight Akainu.

It’s just luffy and sabo and I already said I personally don’t think they have to fight him

Well that just sounds weak and narratively unfulfilling. Lel.

If it happens they’d obviously be more to it

Sassenach on a bike, what reasoning is this to put Shanks above Luffy for an Akainu fight? Luffy's a fucking Emperor now too.

Don’t think luffy will fight kizaru and akainu back to back

Akainu fighting shanks would be more interesting imo

Fantastic and Shanks has a major beef match to settle with Blackbeard, the bum he has been bitching about for most of his screen time.

3/4 of the emperors will fight for the last poneglyph copy. So all 3 of them might end up clashing

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Regardless of what Dragon wants, it can come down to
-Leader of the Revo army Vs Leader of the Naval armies
Dragon has nothing against the Marines, but if the Marines fight him he will act accordingly
-Akainu mentioning Dragon 5+ times in MF
-Same generation, potential old rivalry

It is not a lot, but still makes sense narratively as the leaders of opposing armies
It is treated as a possibility, unlike you being fixated on SKA out of sheer agenda 🤫

Okay you believe dragon will fight akainu cool. You also have no room to judge me wanting shanks and akainu to fight

If he doesn’t fight shanks and ends up fighting luffy, sabo, or dragon instead cool I was wrong but you do realize he might not fight dragon either. For all we know he could be used as a hype tool for one of the gorosei or imu. Do I think or want it to happen? No but we don’t know

 

[Owl Ki]

It’s just luffy and sabo and I already said I personally don’t think they have to fight him

So the characters with actual narrative reasons to fight Akainu don't have to but the guy with zero narrative reasons to does?

If it happens they’d obviously be more to it

Short of Akainu killing Makino and the probable Mini-Shanks for the crime of being related to an Emperor, there would be very little that would give Shanks as much narrative weight to fight Akainu as Luffy/Sabo possess.

Akainu fighting shanks would be more interesting imo

Can't say I comprehend why but alright.

 

[SakazOuki]

Also Akainu went out of way to murder Luffy purely for his genetic connection to Dragon. Something about "extinguishing the bloodline of criminals". Man had immediate beef with Luffy just for the latter being an overgrown sperm of Dragon. The rest of Luffy's criminal record was just a bonus incentive. 💀

Hen you think about it, he even prioritized Dragon’s son over Roger’s
”Worst criminal in history” was no joke

 

[zorovsanji]

Zkk has a basis. Luffy and Zoro have always been portrayed as equals since the beginning so if Luffy is a yonko after wano then so is Zoro. And wano was about the next Oden yet Zoro not just become Oden but surpassed him as well. Which means Luffy and Zoro are really equal so Zoro really is capable of killing kaido.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

We’re in the final saga and there’s ZERO build-up for Shanks vs Akainu.
Like, I think Akainu vs Sabo is mostly pushed out of powerscaling agenda but at least it has some basis.
The idea that narrative doesn’t matter when it’s literally more important than powerscaling is weird lol.
it’s a random as saying Ryokugyu will take down Blackbeard.

 

[SakazOuki]

Okay you believe dragon will fight akainu cool. You also have no room to judge me wanting shanks and akainu to fight

If he doesn’t fight shanks and ends up fighting luffy, sabo, or dragon instead cool I was wrong but you do realize he might not fight dragon either. For all we know he could be used as a hype tool for one of the gorosei or imu. Do I think or want it to happen? No but we don’t know

I never said Dragon will fight Akainu, I know its a slight possibility with some backing, but never pushed it as some ZKK
-Your take has no absolutely no basis whatsoever
-You were rudely treating it as a ZKK, setting up random matchups on a whim 🤫🤫🤫
-Just because ZKKers exist doesn’t mean your takes are any less bizarre, at least for the sane minded

You’re free to push whatever you want ofcourse, and I also have the freedom to ridicule whatever I see fit

 

[Nikuzi]

ZKK is a worse theory because it had an entire portion of the fanbase going full braindead while nobody except like 1 or 2 people are peddling Shanks killing Akainu. It's not even comparable so this thread is kinda bizarre

 

[Albino 👑]

So the characters with actual narrative reasons to fight Akainu don't have to but the guy with zero narrative reasons to does?

Short of Akainu killing Makino and the probable Mini-Shanks for the crime of being related to an Emperor, there would be very little that would give Shanks as much narrative weight to fight Akainu as Luffy/Sabo possess.

Can't say I comprehend why but alright.

Could luffy or sabo fight Akainu? Yes
Do I think Shanks Vs Akainu could be really cool? Yes

I never said Dragon will fight Akainu, I know its a slight possibility with some backing, but never pushed it as some ZKK
-Your take has no absolutely no basis whatsoever
-You were rudely treating it as a ZKK, setting up random matchups on a whim 🤫🤫🤫
-Just because ZKKers exist doesn’t mean your takes are any less bizarre, at least for the sane minded

You’re free to push whatever you want ofcourse, and I also have the freedom to ridicule whatever I see fit

Again dragon vs akainu has no basis either. You can’t just pretend believing that is fine but anything else isn’t
In what way am I pushing it as a zkk? I’m a single person that thinks shanks and akainu would be cool for the reason I gave in another thread

1. I gave my reasons why and I could say the same for dragon fighting akainu
2. That deadass makes no sense at all
3. Okay?…

Yes you don’t have to agree with everything I say but acting like your random ideas or dream matches are actually valid while comparing my singular idea to zkk is fuckin dumb.
If you think akainu is out of shanks league or something that’s on you

 

[zorovsanji]

Mihawks bounty proves that he's above Roger. Is it really wrong to expect Zoro being yonko by now and is capable of killing kaido? Coz if he isn't, how he's gonna beat mihawk?

 

[Owl Ki]

Could luffy or sabo fight Akainu? Yes
Do I think Shanks Vs Akainu could be really cool? Yes

Folk thought Zoro killing Kaido would be really cool too.

 

[Albino 👑]

Folk thought Zoro killing Kaido would be really cool too.

1. I’m not treating it like a fact
2. Not acting like everyone that doesn’t agree with me is a dumbass doesn’t know how to read
3. I haven’t been pushing it for years everywhere

I’m one person and it’s been a week

 

[Tai long]

This like asking which theory is more dumb
Zkk
Or
Sdfv- sanji defeats final villain
No one says sdfv

 

[Owl Ki]

1. I’m not treating it like a fact
2. Not acting like everyone that doesn’t agree with me is a dumbass doesn’t know how to read
3. I haven’t been pushing it for years everywhere

I’m one person and it’s been a week

None of these "points" have anything to do with the merit of the theory itself. They instead entirely revolve around the obnoxiousness of some of the individuals that peddled the theory. Thing is, they would have been equally obnoxious had their theory actually been correct.

They were obnoxious because they were obnoxious, not because they were wrong. Lol.

 

[Roo]

SKA destroys years of emotional trauma and build up

ZKK was just a dumb theory Z boys took too seriously

 

[LolonoisZolo]

None of these "points" have anything to do with the merit of the theory itself. They instead entirely revolve around the obnoxiousness of some of the individuals that peddled the theory. Thing is, they would have been equally obnoxious had their theory actually been correct.

They were obnoxious because they were obnoxious, not because they were wrong. Lol.

Perfectly said!
I would even add that most ''obnoxiousness'' came from people insulting anyone trying to explain why the theory was plausible.