Questions & Mysteries Whitebeard couldve win during the paramount war?

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Im just giving you guys an idea how powerful whitebeard how he couldve save ace from akainu, how he could easily took down the soldiers that focused on him and many more during the paramount war if squardo didnt wounded him this is only what i bilieve ok theres no way that whitebeard gonna live but theres so many ways they could win that time. Lets say his still sick during the paramount but one thing that i think really got whitebeard was squardo’s attack from behind thats not a normal wound, remember whitebeard is still a human and that kind of wound you will be dead, it was near his heart and it open preety much a lot on his body if that didnt happen he couldve really destroyed the world goverment and probably garp and songoku had to join up with the admirals just to stop whitebeard.

i think kaidou for sure knew this thats why he said that whitebeard put up a good fight because of this one this is just what i think remember that.

this is what i think. If that didnt happen even akainu cannot touch whitebeard or any admirals could even do it. I think his power decreases over the time during the paramount war its because of that deep wound from squardo. Specially the time when he fought akainu and whitebeard had to stop attacking him because he was throwing up blood again its because of squardo’s attack i think that one trigger because of that. That time akainu had a huge open attack on whitebeard that eventually preety much killed whitebeard he only survive that akainu’s attack its because of his super strong spirit at that open whitebeard already dead until during blackbeard.

if you guys have the time check it again and tell me what you think.
 
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Actually despite whitebeard's condition he still manage to get ace free but it was ace's rash personality that got himself kill not whitebeard.
what im trying to say is that akainu, kuzan or who else cant touch him if squardo didnt do what he did. He couldve chase akainu not akainu chasing ace and luffy, destroy those soldiers who trying to stop him easily and many more. What im trying to say is that the wound he got from squardo was world goverment successful plan that changed the paramount war.
 
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Dude none of the Admirals even went to low diff damage except Akainu. Even if the WB was in Prime Akaniu Probably would've died. But even thats unlikely Because Mihawk would've engaged as well if WB was healthy.

its supposed to be Marines + Warloads = Yonkos.
so how was 1 Yonko going to win or survive, no chance. I'm of the opinion if the fights breaks between all yonko's and warlords + marines, Marines + warlords would still win. They have too many Top Tiers.
 

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#6
During a war, brute force is not enough. You need strategies, diversions, plan B, etc.
WB forces were outplayed during the entire arc. Trapped, deceived, cornered, split.
Luffy,s team helped A LOT, and if it werent for Luffy's CoC and crocodile, ace would have been killed sooner.
 
#7
If 'world's strongest swordsman' means to be the strongest among all swordsman then then 'world's strongest man' means strongest among all men and even old WB was the strongest man in the verse at that time otherwise his title would've been 'former world's strongest man' or something. He was the strongest even in that condition and that's a fact.
 
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If 'world's strongest swordsman' means to be the strongest among all swordsman then then 'world's strongest man' means strongest among all men and even old WB was the strongest man in the verse at that time otherwise his title would've been 'former world's strongest man' or something. He was the strongest even in that condition and that's a fact.
So you think if one of Akainu subordinate did something similar as Squardo did to WB where he wasn't able to dodge. Same thing would to Akainu?
 
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So you think if one of Akainu subordinate did something similar as Squardo did to WB where he wasn't able to dodge. Same thing would to Akainu?
One aspect, for example CoO in this case, doesn't define a person's overall strength. Also, I don't remember Akainu having extraordinary CoO feats. Maybe he could, maybe he couldn't. Especially if that person was a very trusted aid (Son in WB's case) of him.
 

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ofc he could have......if he could have used the full power of his df without worrying abot killing ace/his own crew in the process, he could have wiped out the whole thing, hell Shiki alone trashed half of marineford vs PRIME Garp and Sengoku and in terms of destruction his df is inferior to WB's one
 
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One aspect, for example CoO in this case, doesn't define a person's overall strength. Also, I don't remember Akainu having extraordinary CoO feats. Maybe he could, maybe he couldn't. Especially if that person was a very trusted aid (Son in WB's case) of him.
So suppose Akainu does this sneak attack to WB when WB is cruising around minding his own business and as strong he is and One Shots like with attacking in the head or something So is now Akainu World Strongest Man?

Hopefully you must see the flaw in your logic. WSM title is not like WSS title where you could argue he is better in CoA. WSM should at the top in all of them. And so if one is down all of them are down and if all of them are down the man him self is down, which was conveyed pretty well in Marinford by differnt people mentioning that WB is not as strong anymore.
 
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I agree, anyway that is common knowledge recognized by everybody bar a small vocal minority (admiral hardcore fans), you just need to see the numbers in the yonko vs admiral powerlevel poll.

Anybody else in WB shoes wouldn't even been able to enter the battlefield after a huge sword pierced his chest side to side yet he stepped in and make Marineford his stage. Truly in the end Marineford was WB stage to show what his WSM title meant. Who could get a stab like the one Sguardo did then ebter the battlefield, do multiple skirmishes with admirals, tank elite marines attacking him at once then beat Akainu, and if that wasn't enough yami BB right after. Imo not even a fresh Kaido or BM can come close to what old sick WB did.
 
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So suppose Akainu does this sneak attack to WB when WB is cruising around minding his own business and as strong he is and One Shots like with attacking in the head or something So is now Akainu World Strongest Man?

Hopefully you must see the flaw in your logic. WSM title is not like WSS title where you could argue he is better in CoA. WSM should at the top in all of them. And so if one is down all of them are down and if all of them are down the man him self is down, which was conveyed pretty well in Marinford by differnt people mentioning that WB is not as strong anymore.
So are you questioning the reliability of that title? Yes, he's much weaker than before but he's still the strongest. That is if you trust the title.
 
#16
No. If all big shots of marines (3 admirals, sengoku, garp) went all out since beginning, WB and his beloved family would be finished already.

Imagine, first kuzan freeze the sea so the ships can't move. And sakazuki send his endless stronger magma meteor and borsalino give them treatment a larger AoE of yasakani no magatama. Most WB pirates would be wiped out already before reaching the Bay.

Actually despite whitebeard's condition he still manage to get ace free but it was ace's rash personality that got himself kill not whitebeard.
The MC with power of plot got Ace free. WB only watched.
 

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#17
No, he couldn't
He was lucky Luffy and ID prisoners come to help him and the fact his "sons" are idiot (the idiot who stabbed him, Ace who pick fights and Teach who murder his own crewmate) is his fault for failing keep them straight.
 
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So are you questioning the reliability of that title? Yes, he's much weaker than before but he's still the strongest. That is if you trust the title.
No I'm not doubting the title. I'm doubting the Man holding it at that point in time.

And no if he was the strongest he would at least kill Akainu which he wasn't able to do. He couldn't even do lasting damage to mamga boy. Aokiji did more damage than him.
 
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If 'world's strongest swordsman' means to be the strongest among all swordsman then then 'world's strongest man' means strongest among all men and even old WB was the strongest man in the verse at that time otherwise his title would've been 'former world's strongest man' or something. He was the strongest even in that condition and that's a fact.
thats true but like i said what squardo did was huge that affect everything until ace died. Whitebeard couldve live longer he was prepared to die that time yes he will die at marineford but like i said he could do more if squardo didnt stab him.
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No I'm not doubting the title. I'm doubting the Man holding it at that point in time.

And no if he was the strongest he would at least kill Akainu which he wasn't able to do. He couldn't even do lasting damage to mamga boy. Aokiji did more damage than him.
he could stop akainu for sure im telling you like i said what squardo did changed everything until to the point akainu had a huge opening to whitebeard that almost kiled him.

thats true but like i said what squardo did was huge that affect everything until ace died. Whitebeard couldve live longer he was prepared to die that time yes he will die at marineford but like i said he could do more if squardo didnt stab him.
thats true but like i said what squardo did was huge that affect everything until ace died. Whitebeard couldve live longer he was prepared to die that time yes he will die at marineford but like i said he could do more if squardo didnt stab him.
 
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Dude none of the Admirals even went to low diff damage except Akainu. Even if the WB was in Prime Akaniu Probably would've died. But even thats unlikely Because Mihawk would've engaged as well if WB was healthy.

its supposed to be Marines + Warloads = Yonkos.
so how was 1 Yonko going to win or survive, no chance. I'm of the opinion if the fights breaks between all yonko's and warlords + marines, Marines + warlords would still win. They have too many Top Tiers.
It was quite equal if the the marines were 4 times stronger than the wb crew then they had to easily pushed them back and slaughter them
The marines needed sneaky attacks to put down Marco and Whitebeard down
Also you guys argue that the admirals didnt use awakening well Marco and WB didnt use it eithre Marco didnt even use hybird form which is his strongest mode
Vista casually clashed with the world strongest swordsman

If all 4 yonko crews would attack they would slaughter whole Marineford
 
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