Powers & Abilities Whitebeard taught AdCoC to Akainu..

#61
So not only you are a liar, but you also fail basic comprehension.

You are yet to prove that every time Whitebeard uses fruit power there are cracks.

In fact, you cannot prove it, because it is clearly false.

No cracks:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://preview.redd.it/yjkx4vm1fj871.jpg?width=1266&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25afd7195f6c3b54133f027c95a285e6084b6d26

No cracks:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://preview.redd.it/i07wro75fj871.jpg?width=1065&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=089278acf14334588d692fefa77acc6c8b08d86f

Not to mention, Whitebeard had problems using basic Conqueror's Haki at that point, yet you are expecting him to just spam ACoC?
Waste of time, watch him claim it as Oda being inconsistent and the narrative importance of the cracks is more hence the cracks only signify usage of GGnM and not these non crack attacks.

The thing is the dude's smoking crack.
 
#62
So not only you are a liar, but you also fail basic comprehension.

You are yet to prove that every time Whitebeard uses fruit power there are cracks.

In fact, you cannot prove it, because it is clearly false.

No cracks:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://preview.redd.it/yjkx4vm1fj871.jpg?width=1266&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25afd7195f6c3b54133f027c95a285e6084b6d26

No cracks:
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://preview.redd.it/i07wro75fj871.jpg?width=1065&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=089278acf14334588d692fefa77acc6c8b08d86f

Not to mention, Whitebeard had problems using basic Conqueror's Haki at that point, yet you are expecting him to just spam ACoC?
You made my point.. The 2 instances you've shown are the same as those using AdCoC..


 
#65
That's not an argument..

Everytime Whitebeard uses his Devil Fruit there are visual effect of Cracks.. :kayneshrug:
I was not arguing at all, you have reading comprehension issues, you live in your own world, you look at things and give your own meaning to them. You will see a pencil and you will call it water. ACoC was not established back then like it is now. Shanks and WB split the sky but they did not have the no touch (your ACoC signal). The first time no touch and ACoC were shown to have any relation was in Oden's flashback. There is zero evidence for your claim.
 
#66
I was not arguing at all, you have reading comprehension issues, you live in your own world, you look at things and give your own meaning to them. You will see a pencil and you will call it water. ACoC was not established back then like it is now. Shanks and WB split the sky but they did not have the no touch (your ACoC signal). The first time no touch and ACoC were shown to have any relation was in Oden's flashback. There is zero evidence for your claim.
Your headcanon of me is not an argument either..

There's plenty of evidence and it's simple.. Each time Whitebeard uses the Gura Gura no mi, his devil fruit abilities, he creates Cracks..

And when he uses AdCoC, it creates a no touch bubble with Sfx without Cracks..
 
#67
Your headcanon of me is not an argument either..

There's plenty of evidence and it's simple.. Each time Whitebeard uses the Gura Gura no mi, his devil fruit abilities, he creates Cracks..

And when he uses AdCoC, it creates a no touch bubble with Sfx without Cracks..
Pure, raw, unadulterated headcanon. Stop smoking crack
 
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#76
You made my point.. The 2 instances you've shown are the same as those using AdCoC..


Only in your head.

Let me reiterate: YOU ARE THE ONE MAKING THE CLAIM THAT THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF ACoC DESPITE WHITEBEART BEING UNABLE TO USE EVEN THE BASIC COLOR OF CONQUEROR AT MARINEFORD. THEREFORE IT IS ON YOU TO PROVE THE POSITIVE - THAT THESE ARE REALLY EXAMPLES OF ACoC - NOT ON ME TO PROVE THE NEGATIVE.

Two instances I had shown are him using devil fruit.

These two examples that are a very clear use of his devil fruit ability:





NEITHER OF THEM SHOW ANY CRACKS.

TO SUM IT UP: LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON WHY YOU BELIEVE WHITEBEARD'S FRUIT ALWAYS SHOWS CRACKS WHEN USED IS BECAUSE YOU HAD DECIDED THAT IT MUST SHOW CRACKS AND ARE A PRIORI REJECTING ANY EXAMPLES WHERE THAT IS NOT THE CASE. You have decided on the conclusion you wanted to reach, and then opted to reject and ignore any evidence that was contrary to your preferred conclusion.
 
#78
I can't argue against baseless claims. You can't prove ACoC existed back then (at least not in the form that you say), you also say that whenever GGnM is used it is accompanied with cracks. https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-572.html, last two pages, no crack yet WB is using his DF.

What would you call this


He fired this first and then the one above

Only in your head.

Let me reiterate: YOU ARE THE ONE MAKING THE CLAIM THAT THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF ACoC DESPITE WHITEBEART BEING UNABLE TO USE EVEN THE BASIC COLOR OF CONQUEROR AT MARINEFORD. THEREFORE IT IS ON YOU TO PROVE THE POSITIVE - THAT THESE ARE REALLY EXAMPLES OF ACoC - NOT ON ME TO PROVE THE NEGATIVE.

Two instances I had shown are him using devil fruit.

These two examples that are a very clear use of his devil fruit ability:





NEITHER OF THEM SHOW ANY CRACKS.

TO SUM IT UP: LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON WHY YOU BELIEVE WHITEBEARD'S FRUIT ALWAYS SHOWS CRACKS WHEN USED IS BECAUSE YOU HAD DECIDED THAT IT MUST SHOW CRACKS AND ARE A PRIORI REJECTING ANY EXAMPLES WHERE THAT IS NOT THE CASE. You have decided on the conclusion you wanted to reach, and then opted to reject and ignore any evidence that was contrary to your preferred conclusion.

Actually i'm wrong.. Not based on what both of you are saying but when Blackbeard speaks of having both powers
he manifest what i believed to be AdCoC as the quake powers.. So i'm wrong on this one..

 
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