Questions & Mysteries Who asked Mihawk if he wanted to be an emperor?

[HellBlazer04]

@Albino 👑 Aside from the general population of OP world and ID fodder pirates, not a single relevant character believes buggy as some powerhouse.
Had that been the case he would have already been an emperor after MF war.

Buggy's only contribution is the fodder army from ID.
Nobody is ignoring Croc's contribution, we already know he came up the ideas and connections but none of his ideas would have been entertained by the underworld organisations(for funding) without Mihawk's past reputation as the Marine Hunter. Mihawk is the only one who legitimizes Cross Guild as a solid marine hunting business.

Also the name of the organisation ("Cross" Guild) is also somewhat based on mihawk's aesthetic and christian themes around his character.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

He was justifying why this was a good idea to keep buggy alive, what are you trying to do?:risicheck:

Key objectives:

1. Prove Mihawk doesn't deserve Yonko title.
2. By fulfilling objective 1, prove Luffy and his fellow emperors are better than Mihawk by establishing "one Emperor=Mihawk+Crocodile+Buggy."
3. Last but not the least, downplay Mihawk as much as possible, which, in turn, lowballs Zoro's goal.

 

[Albino 👑]

@Albino 👑 Aside from the general population of OP world and ID fodder pirates, not a single relevant character believes buggy as some powerhouse.
Had that been the case he would have already been an emperor after MF war.

Buggy's only contribution is the fodder army from ID.
Nobody is ignoring Croc's contribution, we already know he came up the ideas and connections but none of his ideas would have been entertained by the underworld organisations(for funding) without Mihawk's past reputation as the Marine Hunter. Mihawk is the only one who legitimizes Cross Guild as a solid marine hunting business.

Also the name of the organisation ("Cross" Guild) is also somewhat based on mihawk's aesthetic and christian themes around his character.

The world government clearly believes that buggy is alot more than he really is
So no buggy didn't just contribute his crew


Y'all kind of are with crocodile because them teaming up is a mutual partnership that benefits both of them
Even while sayin you're not undermining crocodile you're doing it by acting like mihawk contributes more to the duo

 

[HellBlazer04]

The world government clearly believes that buggy is alot more than he really is
So no buggy didn't just contribute his crew


Y'all kind of are with crocodile because them teaming up is a mutual partnership that benefits both of them
Even while sayin you're not undermining crocodile you're doing it by acting like mihawk contributes more to the duo

No my point is without croc, mihawk loses the connections and funds to build an army for an empire which is a necessary part of being a yonko. And without mihawk, croc literally has no marine hunting business.

The name reference is blatantly obvious to anyone who's not blind.

 

[Albino 👑]

No my point is without croc, mihawk loses the connections and funds to build an army for an empire which is a necessary part of being a yonko. And without mihawk, croc literally has no marine hunting business.

The name reference is blatantly obvious to anyone who's not blind.

Without mihawk crocodile pretty much loses a powerhouse
Neither would have a marine hunting business without the other

So yeah

1. Crocodile handles the money and just overall leading
2. Mihawk the strength

Again Buggy still contributes its his unlucky luckiness that causes people to serverly overestimate his capabilities

 

[Moegara]

The world government clearly believes that buggy is alot more than he really is
So no buggy didn't just contribute his crew


Y'all kind of are with crocodile because them teaming up is a mutual partnership that benefits both of them
Even while sayin you're not undermining crocodile you're doing it by acting like mihawk contributes more to the duo

There's a big difference here. They are partners and they benefit from each other, but they're not equals.

I'll put it this way:
- If Mihawk wanted to become a Yonko, he could have done it without Crocodile. He has simply never cared about Emperors or the Pirate King title.
- If Crocodile wants to become a Yonko, he wouldn't be able to without Mihawk. He has always dreamt of becoming Pirate King. It was even 100% confirmed in his cover story (where we also learnt Mr.1 dreams of being a superhero).

It all stems from the obvious difference in power between them.
Buggy's nose is just the cherry on top of everything. They didn't even want him in originally but it all just turned out this way so (by Mihawk's suggestion) they let him be.

It is interesting that they may represent the "power, fame, wealth" bit, though, it's a nice detail.

 

[ConquistadoR]

You are reading the manga wrong. Its Oda clarifying to the readers why Mihawk didnt become the yonko from cross guild. He knows full well that readers would expect the WSS and Shanks' former rival to be the only person qualified to become a yonko from that crew.

@Albino 👑 chwan is on the final drops of copium to gatekeep Mihawk from being Yonko tier.

 

[Franosuke]

?

It's pretty obvious.

Mihawk knows that he and Crocodile outing Buggy as a fraud and revealing themselves as the true leaders of CG would make one of them a Yonko.

And considering Mihawk's bounty is double that of Crocodile, I'm pretty sure they would make him the Yonko if both Mihawk and Crocodile were considered co-leaders.

Even accounting for Buggy's fake reputation, it's either:
1. Mihawk believes that CG would be a Yonko crew even without Buggy's notoriety, or
2. Mihawk was talking about taking credit for the leadership, but not exposing Buggy as a fraud overall

 

[ConquistadoR]

Crocodile = Ex-Warlord, almost caused a Civil War in Alabasta, damn near unearthed an Ancient Weapon.
Mihawk = Ex-Warlord, Marine Hunter.

Yet, Mihawk is the only one among the two to have a higher bounty than Buggy. He literally has almost Double the bounty of Crocodile lmfao.

The Yonko who curbstomped Crocodile, broke his spirit & sent him back to the Grand Line thinks of Mihawk's Duels as "Legendary".

Yet our Friendly Neighbourhood WorstGen Mihawk Downplayer : "MiHaWk & CrOcOdiLe aRe sEeN aS EqUaLs"

 

[Franosuke]

Yet our Friendly Neighbourhood WorstGen Mihawk Downplayer : "MiHaWk & CrOcOdiLe aRe sEeN aS EqUaLs"

 

[DarkKingSlander]

"I'd rather live a quieter life" just sounds so fearful to me, personally. Oda has shown us that mihawk will chase down don krieg and beat east blue zoro and defeat daz bones and okama swordsmen and fight an exhausted post impel down preskip luffy. But he asks vista for a rain check and retreats from shanks and abandoned his home when marines come.

Professional fighting fans would call him a cherry picker.

 

[IsaziSempi]

Mihawk will do anything to not lose his title against shanks.

 

[Albino 👑]

There's a big difference here. They are partners and they benefit from each other, but they're not equals.

I'll put it this way:
- If Mihawk wanted to become a Yonko, he could have done it without Crocodile. He has simply never cared about Emperors or the Pirate King title.
- If Crocodile wants to become a Yonko, he wouldn't be able to without Mihawk. He has always dreamt of becoming Pirate King. It was even 100% confirmed in his cover story (where we also learnt Mr.1 dreams of being a superhero).

It all stems from the obvious difference in power between them.
Buggy's nose is just the cherry on top of everything. They didn't even want him in originally but it all just turned out this way so (by Mihawk's suggestion) they let him be.

It is interesting that they may represent the "power, fame, wealth" bit, though, it's a nice detail.

When it comes to cross guild yes they are equal. Nobody is saying crocodile and mihawk are equal in strength they are just equal partners

No cause on paper neither technically need the other.

1. Just like mihawk doesn't technically "need" crocodile to get a crew
2. Crocodile doesn't technically "need" mihawk to gather enough power under him to compete with them

Acting like they don't both equally gain from their alliance is still crocodile downplay

Without buggy and the misinterpretation of his role in cross guild cross guild wouldn't even be seen as an emperor level group so he's more than just a little cherry on top

It obviously wasn't intentional by any of them but buggy being the face of the group is unironically the best thing that could have happened to the group
Buggy and his insane amount of clout and overestimation is what helps cross guild seem even more legitimate to those on the outside

@Albino 👑 chwan is on the final drops of copium to gatekeep Mihawk from being Yonko tier.

It isn't about mihawk not being strong enough to be an emperor it's about him not having the qualities of one
Like i said above mihawk, crocodile, and buggy (mistakenly) together make up for what the others lack when it comes to becoming one

Take any of the 3 out and cross guild isnt a emperor level org
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Crocodile = Ex-Warlord, almost caused a Civil War in Alabasta, damn near unearthed an Ancient Weapon.
Mihawk = Ex-Warlord, Marine Hunter.

Yet, Mihawk is the only one among the two to have a higher bounty than Buggy. He literally has almost Double the bounty of Crocodile lmfao.

The Yonko who curbstomped Crocodile, broke his spirit & sent him back to the Grand Line thinks of Mihawk's Duels as "Legendary".

Yet our Friendly Neighbourhood WorstGen Mihawk Downplayer : "MiHaWk & CrOcOdiLe aRe sEeN aS EqUaLs"

Crocodile and mihawk are seen as buggy's subordinates
They aren't seen as equals they view eachother as equals when it comes to cross guild

 

[DarkKingSlander]

There's a big difference here. They are partners and they benefit from each other, but they're not equals.

I'll put it this way:
- If Mihawk wanted to become a Yonko, he could have done it without Crocodile. He has simply never cared about Emperors or the Pirate King title.
- If Crocodile wants to become a Yonko, he wouldn't be able to without Mihawk. He has always dreamt of becoming Pirate King. It was even 100% confirmed in his cover story (where we also learnt Mr.1 dreams of being a superhero).

It all stems from the obvious difference in power between them.
Buggy's nose is just the cherry on top of everything. They didn't even want him in originally but it all just turned out this way so (by Mihawk's suggestion) they let him be.

It is interesting that they may represent the "power, fame, wealth" bit, though, it's a nice detail.

0% chance of mihawk being a yonko. He needs manpower and capital. If mihawk went to one of the emporers territories and tried to claim it as his own, he would get taught a lesson. Imagine what katakuri and an enraged army hitsquad would to mihawk, or king and a few tobiroppo. The man was stalled successfully by little old vista. God forbid kaido is feeling frisky, then its bagua time.

 

[ConquistadoR]

they view eachother as equals when it comes to cross guild

They very clearly don't.
Else Crocodile wouldn't be cajoling Mihawk to join him on the phone.

How you see Crocodile talk all the shit in the word to Doflamingo, Whitebeard etc,. yet cajol Mihawk when it comes to this, yet think they treat each other as equals is beyond me lool.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

This thread is worse than noodle threads

 

[Albino 👑]

They very clearly don't.
Else Crocodile wouldn't be cajoling Mihawk to join him on the phone.

How you see Crocodile talk all the shit in the word to Doflamingo, Whitebeard etc,. yet cajol Mihawk when it comes to this, yet think they treat each other as equals is beyond me lool.

? How does asking to team up mean you don't view eachother as equals? Both mihawk and crocodile in general are too prideful to be ok being under the other

Crocodile trust mihawk unlike them because he views him as similar in the way they dont trust

Asking someone to team up doesn't mean you're inferior or offer less

 

[gz89]

Mihawk living rent free in Albino's mind.

Think this is the 6th thread in this weekend about him but tries to camouflage it with this "bbbut Crocodile equal and people think Buggy is so strong"

 

[NAMELESS]

Out of these three,only Mihawk is a true top tier.Buggy is a fake emperor and i don't have high hopes for Crocodile either.

 

[Albino 👑]

Mihawk living rent free in Albino's mind.

Think this is the 6th thread in this weekend about him but tries to camouflage it with this "bbbut Crocodile equal and people think Buggy is so strong"

Crazy thing is im not even downplaying mihawk just acknowledging crocodile and buggy's role in cross guild and how they affected it

Nobody is calling mihawk weak just giving the other 2 main members their credit but somehow even that is seen as mihawk downplay