General & Others Who did Oda do dirty the most?
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Chopper has been degraded to a mere "kawaii" mascot post-skip.
In terms of character Oda has written the once cool reindeer into a one-dimensional little crybaby, that is completely inept on his own and lacks any kind of confidence.
Pre-skip Chopper was actually a fine character with flaws, but clear character progression.
Post-skip Chopper is a disgrace and more meme than character.
In terms of character Oda has written the once cool reindeer into a one-dimensional little crybaby, that is completely inept on his own and lacks any kind of confidence.
Pre-skip Chopper was actually a fine character with flaws, but clear character progression.
Post-skip Chopper is a disgrace and more meme than character.
Smoker:He haunt luffy through the GL during the NW he has become a punching bag
Smoothie and snack:useless yonko commanders
Big meme:better not talk about her
L drake:Sword captain top worstgen member in sabondy,he probably will have a fight against a TR or a calamity reality:he is weak af
Hawkins:he became a younko bitch unlike Apoo who at least his own bussines
Kidd:he is suppose to be luffy's pk rival when he is weaker than luffy's RHM who wants to be the WSS
2 SH when they are all together(like Brook or Ussop in this arc)
Smoothie and snack:useless yonko commanders
Big meme:better not talk about her
L drake:Sword captain top worstgen member in sabondy,he probably will have a fight against a TR or a calamity reality:he is weak af
Hawkins:he became a younko bitch unlike Apoo who at least his own bussines
Kidd:he is suppose to be luffy's pk rival when he is weaker than luffy's RHM who wants to be the WSS
2 SH when they are all together(like Brook or Ussop in this arc)
Smoker has unfortunately gotten messed up by the plot since he wasn’t allowed to fight Vergo and his character made him instead sacrifice himself to get laws heart back - Cool character moment, sucks that people downplay him cause of it.
To be fair it’ll be interesting when smoker returns as a top tier basically
To be fair it’ll be interesting when smoker returns as a top tier basically
From the moment Luffy defeated Crocodile, Smoker IMO went to the gutter. This story of SH hunter also ended up in Alabasta. In MF, if Luffy knew how to use Busoshoku as basic as possible, he could have even defeated Smoker. Oda didn't shit on Smoker, on the contrary, he made him acquire two Haki. You can't shit a character you never planned much on with.
Big Mom is still a pretty powerful character, placed in the Yonko Tier and above or equivalent to Admirals by most people. Puncture Wille created an extremely deep hole whose width is about the size of Onigashima, according to the sword going up, PW's explosion will decrease in size like a ground wire, BM absorbed all this energy directly inside his body and still tanked it, and was only defeated by a very powerful technique wounding her constantly and a nuclear bomb afterwards.. Oda also practically left BM without limits, what if she uses 10 years of her life span if with a year it got much bigger? Using 10 years she would literally be invincible.
Sanji shouldn't even be a voting option. Kuma ok, but it makes no sense to vote for him without knowing the story.
Who's left? Kid. Said to be a user of all Haki but didn't clearly show any. His techniques are simply based on giant metals hitting opponents. A lot of people interpret that he only caused damage because Law softened BM's body. Oda didn't draw pages of Kid facing BM alone, made BM extol Law's techniques and cry in fear every time Law threatened an attack, and screw Kid. Most people (and with some reason) put Kid below Law. There are even people who put him below Sanji, at the same level or below YC2, some really think Kid is weaker than Killer.
I have no doubt that it was the character that Oda spoiled the most.
Big Mom is still a pretty powerful character, placed in the Yonko Tier and above or equivalent to Admirals by most people. Puncture Wille created an extremely deep hole whose width is about the size of Onigashima, according to the sword going up, PW's explosion will decrease in size like a ground wire, BM absorbed all this energy directly inside his body and still tanked it, and was only defeated by a very powerful technique wounding her constantly and a nuclear bomb afterwards.. Oda also practically left BM without limits, what if she uses 10 years of her life span if with a year it got much bigger? Using 10 years she would literally be invincible.
Sanji shouldn't even be a voting option. Kuma ok, but it makes no sense to vote for him without knowing the story.
Who's left? Kid. Said to be a user of all Haki but didn't clearly show any. His techniques are simply based on giant metals hitting opponents. A lot of people interpret that he only caused damage because Law softened BM's body. Oda didn't draw pages of Kid facing BM alone, made BM extol Law's techniques and cry in fear every time Law threatened an attack, and screw Kid. Most people (and with some reason) put Kid below Law. There are even people who put him below Sanji, at the same level or below YC2, some really think Kid is weaker than Killer.
I have no doubt that it was the character that Oda spoiled the most.
If anything, technically, most of Sanji's battle related events are him getting the lesser treatment by Oda. While it's not always bad, you can't help but have that impression.
This is mostly because expectations don't meet reality, mostly because Sanji isn't allowed to shine brighter than Luffy Zoro (in battle related events).
We know Sanji has both high intellect and high strength.
His intellect often showcased when Savior Sanji, Hero Sanji, or Spy Sanji rpesent.
His strength often showcased, regardless of his enemy's powerlevel, Sanji mostly middiff or highdiff his opponent, very rarely extreme diff like Luffy Zoro.
With above's expectations, we hoped Oda become consistent with his overall abilities. But from time to time, Oda purposely nerfed Sanji just to fit the narrative (the stepping stone stuff I mentioned a few posts back).
During Arlong Park, Oda make 100% use of Sanji. His swimming skill and strength are shown. His intelligence also shown to counter Fishman's underwater advantage.
Same with Absalom. Oda allows Sanji to use his brain.
However, in a lot of events, Oda seems to turn off Sanji's brain. The Judge's situation and his siblings' situation, Sanji should've been able to bypass their cheap tactics. Like, those cheap and basic tactics are nothing against Sanji's actual intelligence.
Or Montblanc's situation I've mentioned. Sanji doesn't need to get bashed by him because of his speed is the best. Or the simple punches of Luffy and Jinbe. Oda had to draw Sanji getting bloodied.
Maybe, for veteran and enthusiastic Sanji fans, they know Oda did him bad on purpose. But for casual fans, Oda did treat Sanji worse. That's the point.
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Latest example being Black Maria's situation. Every fans and their mother knows Sanji can easily left that place, but Oda's nerf once again "made" Sanji to be the stepping stone/hype tool/dumbass.
Granted, BM scene is happening to showcase Sanji's character development and Robin's entrance, so everything's fine.
This is mostly because expectations don't meet reality, mostly because Sanji isn't allowed to shine brighter than Luffy Zoro (in battle related events).
We know Sanji has both high intellect and high strength.
His intellect often showcased when Savior Sanji, Hero Sanji, or Spy Sanji rpesent.
His strength often showcased, regardless of his enemy's powerlevel, Sanji mostly middiff or highdiff his opponent, very rarely extreme diff like Luffy Zoro.
With above's expectations, we hoped Oda become consistent with his overall abilities. But from time to time, Oda purposely nerfed Sanji just to fit the narrative (the stepping stone stuff I mentioned a few posts back).
During Arlong Park, Oda make 100% use of Sanji. His swimming skill and strength are shown. His intelligence also shown to counter Fishman's underwater advantage.
Same with Absalom. Oda allows Sanji to use his brain.
However, in a lot of events, Oda seems to turn off Sanji's brain. The Judge's situation and his siblings' situation, Sanji should've been able to bypass their cheap tactics. Like, those cheap and basic tactics are nothing against Sanji's actual intelligence.
Or Montblanc's situation I've mentioned. Sanji doesn't need to get bashed by him because of his speed is the best. Or the simple punches of Luffy and Jinbe. Oda had to draw Sanji getting bloodied.
Maybe, for veteran and enthusiastic Sanji fans, they know Oda did him bad on purpose. But for casual fans, Oda did treat Sanji worse. That's the point.
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Latest example being Black Maria's situation. Every fans and their mother knows Sanji can easily left that place, but Oda's nerf once again "made" Sanji to be the stepping stone/hype tool/dumbass.
Granted, BM scene is happening to showcase Sanji's character development and Robin's entrance, so everything's fine.
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This is just when people ignore the character and focus solely on the abilities.
Judge and Siblings: wasn’t that he couldn’t physically escape, it’s that he couldn’t risk Zeffs life at the hands of the BM Pirates. And trauma has a strong effect on people. “Using his brain” is hard when you’re regressed into a point in your life where you were most powerless.
You get the only people who called thes showings bad, were the “powerscalers.” The casual fans understood that these weren’t bad showings. It’s why everyone knew Sanji was going to call for help from robin, and no that wasn’t a bad showing, it shows a growth in Sanjis character where he took namis advice from EL. That if he can’t fight he should be willing to run.
Judge and Siblings: wasn’t that he couldn’t physically escape, it’s that he couldn’t risk Zeffs life at the hands of the BM Pirates. And trauma has a strong effect on people. “Using his brain” is hard when you’re regressed into a point in your life where you were most powerless.
You get the only people who called thes showings bad, were the “powerscalers.” The casual fans understood that these weren’t bad showings. It’s why everyone knew Sanji was going to call for help from robin, and no that wasn’t a bad showing, it shows a growth in Sanjis character where he took namis advice from EL. That if he can’t fight he should be willing to run.