General & Others Who has better Animated Scenes in Onigashima Zoro or Sanji?
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Overall both of these fights dropped the ball in the most important part of the chapters, with Zoro vs King even moreso, Toei can do nothing to fix that when the original source sucked, except mask it with overblown auras and flashy animation for one episode so people can forget about it.
- King's powers make no sense, and the issue with Zoro's haki not putting a dent on him unless flame turns off
- Zoro vs King was good in the manga till the final chapter, which dropped the ball considerably (above issues)
- Queen using the Vinsmoke powers far too late, if I were Toei I would have changed this section from the manga, have him flesh out those powers earlier and add filler using those powers, it would make it even better than the manga honestly. But they can't fix King no matter what they do unless they change completely how his powers work.
- King's powers make no sense, and the issue with Zoro's haki not putting a dent on him unless flame turns off
- Zoro vs King was good in the manga till the final chapter, which dropped the ball considerably (above issues)
- Queen using the Vinsmoke powers far too late, if I were Toei I would have changed this section from the manga, have him flesh out those powers earlier and add filler using those powers, it would make it even better than the manga honestly. But they can't fix King no matter what they do unless they change completely how his powers work.
At best it'll be episode 1040 or 1025 level. Entirely depends on the animators.
I would contest the idea that Zoro vs King was good till the final chapter.
It was mostly just King ragdolling Zoro.
Not exactly the most riveting material. Its very easy to see why that stuff wasn't considered priority for the staff.
It only really picked up when Zoro used conquerors haki and had that flashback to his past.
The final chapter of the fight has its issues for sure, but I'd still say its the most thematically interesting part of the fight. Oda has never been the best in terms of strategy in the battle department, and while it certainly is lacking there, it does make up for it in other areas.
King finally gets some solid characterization beyond just going "..." and Zoro does actually do some nice stuff and gets some characterization that ties back very concretely to who he wants to be going forward.
(Also, they could fix the king fight by clarifying that King's last big attack required his flames to be off or something like that, or maybe more strongly suggest that even with his flames on he could still get damaged.)
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I would contest the idea that Zoro vs King was good till the final chapter.
It was mostly just King ragdolling Zoro.
Not exactly the most riveting material. Its very easy to see why that stuff wasn't considered priority for the staff.
It only really picked up when Zoro used conquerors haki and had that flashback to his past.
The final chapter of the fight has its issues for sure, but I'd still say its the most thematically interesting part of the fight. Oda has never been the best in terms of strategy in the battle department, and while it certainly is lacking there, it does make up for it in other areas.
King finally gets some solid characterization beyond just going "..." and Zoro does actually do some nice stuff and gets some characterization that ties back very concretely to who he wants to be going forward.
(Also, they could fix the king fight by clarifying that King's last big attack required his flames to be off or something like that, or maybe more strongly suggest that even with his flames on he could still get damaged.)
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