General & Others Who is Biblo?
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I'd say hoping for a Joy Boy crew member is wishful thinking. If true, it would mean Biblo was born in the Void Century over 800 years ago.
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Narratively, I haven't given Biblo much thought. He is definitely interesting, but is there any clues about his origins?
1. He reacted to the fire by taking all the books to a secret room.
- This indicates either complex thinking processes or an obsession with books.
2. Biblo is believed to be a Devil Fruit user.
- Lilith suspected he ate the Growth-Growth fruit making him a Growth Owl.
The contradiction: An owl does not possess complex thinking processes. By its own nature, forming plans that way is not within reasonable boundaries. Additionally, if the logic Lilith used holds true, then it is not a person at all. It's an owl.
The solution: It is not the Growth-Growth fruit, but a Zoan type Devil Fruit that allows a person to become an owl with the ability to change the size of objects.
Conclusion: if what Lilith says is true, then it is not possible for Biblo to be an actual person because the type of fruit is a Paramecia. However, it is strange that an owl is using complex thought patterns, so it's possible that it isn't a Paramecia fruit at all. I prefer to err on the side of caution, though. It is just a complex owl. Conversely, if it isn't an owl, it requires a very specific form of reasoning that relies on a hypothetical Devil Fruit that has an as of yet unknown mythic origin.
Other contradictions:
1. If Louis Arnot is a human, then the lifespan doesn't make sense.
2. Animals don't gain human-like intelligence unless they consume a human Zoan fruit.
- However, animals with a high level of life force actually have voices. For example, Zunisha can speak (telepathically) using sophisticated language and it has never been confirmed it has a Devil Fruit either.
3. Biblo is so old its origins are mysterious even to giants with long lifespans.
Let me think 🤔
Narratively, I haven't given Biblo much thought. He is definitely interesting, but is there any clues about his origins?
1. He reacted to the fire by taking all the books to a secret room.
- This indicates either complex thinking processes or an obsession with books.
2. Biblo is believed to be a Devil Fruit user.
- Lilith suspected he ate the Growth-Growth fruit making him a Growth Owl.
The contradiction: An owl does not possess complex thinking processes. By its own nature, forming plans that way is not within reasonable boundaries. Additionally, if the logic Lilith used holds true, then it is not a person at all. It's an owl.
The solution: It is not the Growth-Growth fruit, but a Zoan type Devil Fruit that allows a person to become an owl with the ability to change the size of objects.
Conclusion: if what Lilith says is true, then it is not possible for Biblo to be an actual person because the type of fruit is a Paramecia. However, it is strange that an owl is using complex thought patterns, so it's possible that it isn't a Paramecia fruit at all. I prefer to err on the side of caution, though. It is just a complex owl. Conversely, if it isn't an owl, it requires a very specific form of reasoning that relies on a hypothetical Devil Fruit that has an as of yet unknown mythic origin.
Other contradictions:
1. If Louis Arnot is a human, then the lifespan doesn't make sense.
2. Animals don't gain human-like intelligence unless they consume a human Zoan fruit.
- However, animals with a high level of life force actually have voices. For example, Zunisha can speak (telepathically) using sophisticated language and it has never been confirmed it has a Devil Fruit either.
3. Biblo is so old its origins are mysterious even to giants with long lifespans.
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If it's Louis Arnot, then he has a fruit that...
1. Bypasses lifespan limits of humans.
2. Turns him into an owl.
3. Allows him to mimic the effects of the Growth fruit.
If it's just a complex owl with a fruit...
1. The owl's lifespan is incredibly long.
2. It is using a high level of cognitive processing.
3. It ate the Growth Growth fruit.
That's essentially what we're looking at here. The simplest explanation is that it's just a complex owl. However, I have a fundamental disposition to uphold. I do, in fact, have suspicions that Lilith is being a literalist, and it is possible that a conceptual idea can subvert the expectation that she is correct just because she's "smart."
1. Bypasses lifespan limits of humans.
2. Turns him into an owl.
3. Allows him to mimic the effects of the Growth fruit.
If it's just a complex owl with a fruit...
1. The owl's lifespan is incredibly long.
2. It is using a high level of cognitive processing.
3. It ate the Growth Growth fruit.
That's essentially what we're looking at here. The simplest explanation is that it's just a complex owl. However, I have a fundamental disposition to uphold. I do, in fact, have suspicions that Lilith is being a literalist, and it is possible that a conceptual idea can subvert the expectation that she is correct just because she's "smart."
I'm going to try to look at this from a narrative potential.
1. It's not normal for any life form on the planet to live centuries unless they are a native life form of Elbaf. However, it is not known how long the animals on Elbaf actually live. We only have information regarding the giants themselves.
2. The above means any other life form from another place has to bypass traditional life span restrictions. They can't do things for centuries without something like the Eternal Youth Operation. If they could, it would devalue Imu's use of it.
3. The assumption that a human or any other life form ate a mythic fruit that allows them to bypass their usual lifespan is exactly that... an assumption. There is no actual explanation for it. There's no known mythic fruit that does that. It's colorful language that relies on imagination.
4. It is incredibly unlikely that Biblo actually is a human who ate a mythic fruit mimicking the Grow-Grow Fruit and also had the Eternal Youth Surgery performed on them. It's ridiculous. There's just too many damn coincidences.
... The conclusion I'm drawing is that you have to be very creatively imaginative to perform that kind of mental gymnastics.
1. It's not normal for any life form on the planet to live centuries unless they are a native life form of Elbaf. However, it is not known how long the animals on Elbaf actually live. We only have information regarding the giants themselves.
2. The above means any other life form from another place has to bypass traditional life span restrictions. They can't do things for centuries without something like the Eternal Youth Operation. If they could, it would devalue Imu's use of it.
3. The assumption that a human or any other life form ate a mythic fruit that allows them to bypass their usual lifespan is exactly that... an assumption. There is no actual explanation for it. There's no known mythic fruit that does that. It's colorful language that relies on imagination.
4. It is incredibly unlikely that Biblo actually is a human who ate a mythic fruit mimicking the Grow-Grow Fruit and also had the Eternal Youth Surgery performed on them. It's ridiculous. There's just too many damn coincidences.
... The conclusion I'm drawing is that you have to be very creatively imaginative to perform that kind of mental gymnastics.
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