Speculations Who is Oda's ultimate hype card?

[Garps tekkai]

My bad, sorry.
It's Rocks for sure.
I found it long time ago but then YouTubers found it too and someone mentioned that that guy had another name so I dropped the idea.
But it totally makes sense that Rocks would be given a different name so nobody finds out about him.
The line came out of nowhere and it is way too fitting for current development.

Yes definitely. Great connection there.
Level 6 is there, so that the biggest criminals in the history of mankind are forgotten and deleted out of history. But that situation basically does the same to that presumed Rocks, while it also explains how they could have gotten his DNA. Without the Seraphims I'd have argued, that he should rather be in lvl6, if he was not killed, but this way it's two birds with one stone.
And I've read about it: Kairo Kureyo- translated: "Give me a hand warmer" is his name. I don't think it's necessarily a exclusion criterion, cause, like you said, this name could have been given to him by others perhaps even as mockery and that name would fit Oda's trolling.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Why not have a clone in which you can have all these bloods mixed?

But I think there could be a dispute in the individual's body to see which blood will prevail, and as Kaidou's blood will be involved he will certainly win against the blood of Roger, Ryuma, Xebec, Shiki etc...

Momonosuke's hyper is long term after all he needs to learn to use a sword properly and gradually refine his skills, he pulled the body of "tough" Oden, all this added to his fighting style using a sword + Kaidou's Df which gives him immense durability+ endurance + superhuman strength he won't be something to ignore the Shogun of Wano will be no joke in his prime...


Kaidou by default and without using Df already has durability, resistance and strength above humans and Vegapunk may have taken this instead of trying to replicate another DF, with that we could have a human of the Oni race with already high attributes + blood from the others other characters like Roger, Ryuma, Xebec, etc...

 

[nik87]

Why not have a clone in which you can have all these bloods mixed?

As you said, it would be a conflict of whose clone it is.
The seraphims are done by cloning one guy and then giving him Lunarian abilities on top of additional devil fruit.
If the clone was Paramecia user, he would get that fruit, otherwise they would get a new one.
Plus the usual lasers and stuff...

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

I'm between Kaidou, Rocks, and Ryuma, Roger would be a Hyper generator because that would make the typical One Piece reader scream: "Damn we have a pirate king clone badass now let's see how strong he is", but the reader who really understand the manga will say: "Boring, because we've seen guys like WB, Garp who were just like him..."

A clone of Kaidou would be more hype than a clone of Roger because we would finally see a Kaidou with 100% of his strength since he has automatically been nerfing himself all night with the island.

Ryuma and Rocks' clone would be hyper because we would finally see the strength of both maximized the same as Kaidou, so I'm between these 3 beings.

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

I chose kaido for ulimate super robot with combined lunarian defense , devil friut , with kizaru laser like pacifista.
It is like a absalom over again,
You can say It is EOS sanji fight. Science warrior vs ultimate life form/ strongest robot

I don’t think they will use rocks, Whitebeard, or others you mention to clone them.

 

[kom5]

Its Roger the further the story goes the more I admire him he did go against all the big shots and took the throne if Oda would show more of Roger we would go crazy the internet broke when WB and Roger clashed

 

[Roronoa-sama]

rocks is alive 100%

 

[Blazing Lion]

Between Rocks and Ryuma, Roger and Kaido would be boring, Shiki does not seem to belong in this tier. Rocks because he was called the greatest enemy of Roger etc. Somebody who could have WB and BM etc. in his crew would be someone terrifying. Ryuma because he soloed the world.

 

[Kaido4422]

Rocks is madara uchiha of one piece verse
Gol d Rogers is hashirama senju.

Yeah and I won't be surprised if Rocks and,Roger were close since childhood. I think xebec lost someone very important to,him and it changed him like how it changed Madara after losing his younger brother

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Rocks being the "Uchiha Madara" of One Piece would be legendary not gonna lie.

 

[Malio]

The Rurking Regend will always be Shiki to me, until stated otherwise by Roda. To answer your question though, it's most likely Rocks

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Rocks, imu, that guy who was briefly mentioned during SKYPEIA's noland story and elbaf king.

 

[Herrera95]

Furthermore, it is revealed that Kaido was stronger than both of them during their eras and remained the strongest since then.

I have a very huge issue with that statement

 

[nik87]

I have a very huge issue with that statement

Let it go. Whitebeard and Roger are old news.
Oda is constantly making up new guys who are greater than them.
Kaido was first. Rocks is second. Original Joyboy is third.And he isnt done yet.
It is simply how hype works, you constantly need someone stronger to up the hype bar.
Betting on old stocks like Whitebeard and Roger is simply not working narrative-wise. No point in undermining the present.

 

[Herrera95]

Let it go. Whitebeard and Roger are old news.
Oda is constantly making up new guys who are greater than them.
Kaido was first. Rocks is second. Original Joyboy is third.And he isnt done yet.
It is simply how hype works, you constantly need someone stronger to up the hype bar.
Betting on old stocks like Whitebeard and Roger is simply not working narrative-wise. No point in undermining the present.

Strongly disagree. Even Kaido was sucking Roger balls and so as Big Mom. He did the same to Oden and WB.

They are legends that will only be surpassed at the end of the story. They are not like mid story villains that got defeated. Your logic works for all villains that were already defeated. Arlong was stronger than Krieg. Enel stronger than Crocodile. Moriah stronger than Lucci. Hody stronger than Moriah. And so on. It doesn't work for Admirals that were never defeated by Strawhats or anyone. Same goes to Roger and WB.

Not only that but you think Lucci is stronger than Kaido? Please...

 

[Psychiatrist]

Its always the "D" that takes the center stage, the ultimate hypter in one piece.

 

[nik87]

Strongly disagree. Even Kaido was sucking Roger balls and so as Big Mom. He did the same to Oden and WB.

They are legends that will only be surpassed at the end of the story. They are not like mid story villains that got defeated. Your logic works for all villains that were already defeated. Arlong was stronger than Krieg. Enel stronger than Crocodile. Moriah stronger than Lucci. Hody stronger than Moriah. And so on. It doesn't work for Admirals that were never defeated by Strawhats or anyone. Same goes to Roger and WB.

Not only that but you think Lucci is stronger than Kaido? Please...

Kaido was using Roger as example that you need haki to achieve things, not the DF which Luffy just Awakened.
Big Mom was talking about crushing Yonko organizations and WB"s was greatest, thus Giants...

Databook confirms that Kaido was stronger than Whitebeard, during WB's prime and thus stronger than Roger as well.
King confirms that Kaido is strongest during Roger/WB prime and asks him to remain so.
Old Kurozumi hag says that Kaido is the embodiment of Power during WB/Roger prime.

Oda picks Kaido as the greatest compliment for a mother in SBS when asked if she is stronger than Akainu.
This isnt the same as previous villains, they werent the peak of the world or 1vs1 kings. We have reached end game.
And in current end game Kaido was strongest, since 30+ years already.

Only a Lunarian clone of Rocks can surpass Kaido or Imu whose existence is a secret to the world.
Roger and Whitebeard were greater pirates than Kaido but they never were individually stronger.
I never said anything like Lucci>Kaido, lmao...

 

[Rocks D. Buggy]

i aint reading all that but it's sanji