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Who is the Monster Samurai?

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L55

L55

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#121
#121
style said:
Zoro is the monster samurai

Another reason why he will surpass Oden in this arc:

Everytime someone claimed that his sword fighting style was the best or bragged about his sword figthing style, Zoro happened to prove them that Santoryu is better


So Oden Nitoryu is the next, Zoro will prove that his sword style is stronger
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also zoro s title jigoku no ou has another meaning like king of the samurai
 
KiriNigiri

KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony
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#122
#122
It's Zoro, and it's really not up for debate unless Oda just never follows up on it. The Monster Samurai statement was in reference to someone who could kill Kaido. Zoro is the most likely contender for that. Also, it's in this arc we're starting to learn more about Zoro's past. And we know in the context of One Piece, a Samurai is a warrior of Wano. We know that Zoro's village was founded by a Samurai of Wano, and that he was taught the ways of Wano swordsmanship. He also holds a strong resemblance to two Shimotsuki, Ryuma and Ushimaru, and a strong connection with the family as a whole. The Samurai are meant to protect the land of Wano. Zoro is fighting with a greater motive in this arc than any other. The same Zoro who claimed to dislike that back on Skypeia.


As Zoro grows strong enough in order to be capable of slaying Kaido, we learn more about him, and that his blood is that of a Samurai. Small note, but the same saga Sanji was referred to as Mr. Prince, Zoro was called Mr. Bushido, aka, Mr. Samurai.
 
Arondight

Arondight

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#124
#124
Its Zoro (or nobody).

Its not Momo, hes not going to come in slapping everyone in adult form (or it would be bad writing imo) dude grow physically but had no time to train his haki or anything like that.

Luffys not a samurai, he doesnt follow bushido or anything like that or use sword.

Its interesting because Oden is only time that Oda seemed to have set a character up as a benchmark for both Luffy and Zoro, which is causing so much issues. Zoro obviously getting Emma and directly comparing his usage of it to Oden before and Luffy with Kaidos comparing his potential ceiling to Oden (and other figures).
 
Franosuke

Franosuke

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#125
#125
Adamxero said:
Now we're getting there so what are the traits of a samurai? Now I'm not talking about using a sword as the fact Izo doesn't use a sword shows that's not an issue.

If you take the swords from Oden who is he more like? Zoro or Luffy? However if you took the swords from Oden you wouldn't stop calling him a samurai would you?
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Knockdown is only irrelevant to you because it doesn't fit your agenda but to Zoro it mattered.

Swords do more external damage than blunt hits wow in other news water is wet.

By the end of the beatdown Luffy is giving Kaido he'll make what Oden did look like a scratch.
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:suresure:

It's funny watching the typical Luffy haters and ZKK tards come out of from under their rocks after Zoro fainted against King while Luffy and Kaido are going toe to toe.
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I get your point but I don't understand using the whole "Zoro couldn't knock down Kaido" thing as a way to undermine current Zoro, when we're referencing a Zoro who didn't have King of Hell mode at that point and who also had 30 broken bones. It's like you're arguing that 1010 Zoro's damage to Kaido represents the maximum output that Zoro could do to Kaido now, even though that doesn't make sense. Especially when we're using current Luffy as a reference point and comparing him to 1010 Zoro.

I'm also pretty sure there are translation debates about what Zoro actually said, and I believe there is a good argument that Zoro meant taking Kaido down with him and not just "knocking him off his feet"
 
style

style

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#129
#129
Zoro can be considered a Samurai, this is something that was already established in chapter 1023 for good when Kawamatsu said that "also Ryuma was an one eyed Samurai" (侍 kanji which means Samurai was used in the balloon, just check the raw version)

This sentence automatically implies that Zoro can be considered a Samurai too.

Not to mention that:
-he was called Mr. Bushido by Vivi...for those who don't know Bushido is the discipline code of Samurais
-his Post-Ts attire resembles the one of the Samurais
-he has plenty of connection to Wano
-he self-styled himself as "Jigoku no Ou" which is a worldplay as its other meaning is King of Samurai other than King of Hell (the latter is the first meaning though)
 
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Finalbeta

Finalbeta

Zoro Worshipper
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#130
#130
style said:
Zoro can be considered a Samurai, this is something that was already established in chapter 1023 for good when Kawamatsu said that "also Ryuma was an one eyed Samurai" (侍 kanji which means Samurai was used in the balloon, just check the raw version)

This sentence automatically implies that Zoro can be considered a Samurai too.

Not to mention that:
-he was called Mr. Bushido by Vivi...for those who don't know Bushido is the discipline code of Samurais
-his Post-Ts attire resembles the one of the Samurais
-he has plenty of connection to Wano
-he self-styled himself as "Jigoku no Ou" which is a worldplay as its other meaning is King of Samurai other than King of Hell (the latter is the first meaning though)
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Oda is a genius mind

He probably knew Zoro was a Samurai since forever and his master turned him into that
 
serkeara

serkeara

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#139
#139
M944 said:
With Luffy vs Kaido getting another comparison with Oden vs Kaido who do you think is the monster Samurai ?

It's clearly not Zoro or at least he probably won't be recognize as one by Kaido in a fight
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At this point, there is 90% chance the situation turning out like this:

Kaido: so you are new Joy boy, Shank, Oden, Roger, Nika...

Luffy: I am a monstrous samurai as well. GEAR 5th, Katana Man! I can turn my body into really sharp blade!

Kaido: Ohhh You are samurai as strong as Oden! You are definitely new Sword God! Please kill me alreadyyyy

Wano citizens: All hail our sword god, Luffy...
 
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