Now we're getting there so what are the traits of a samurai? Now I'm not talking about using a sword as the fact Izo doesn't use a sword shows that's not an issue.
If you take the swords from Oden who is he more like? Zoro or Luffy? However if you took the swords from Oden you wouldn't stop calling him a samurai would you?
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Knockdown is only irrelevant to you because it doesn't fit your agenda but to Zoro it mattered.
Swords do more external damage than blunt hits wow in other news water is wet.
By the end of the beatdown Luffy is giving Kaido he'll make what Oden did look like a scratch.
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It's funny watching the typical Luffy haters and ZKK tards come out of from under their rocks after Zoro fainted against King while Luffy and Kaido are going toe to toe.