Questions & Mysteries Who is the Monster Samurai?

[Adamxero]

And yet Izo didn't use Oden's nitoryu against Kaido. You know, the attack Kaido used to compare them to Oden? Kaido was likely only comparing those who cut him to a 'monster samurai' since he regarded Oden so highly for scarring him. Then comes Zoro who, while wielding Oden's sword, scarred him. Wonder if that was a coincidence.

Izo is a samurai regardless your argument is invalid.

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100% it is Zoro.

1. Momonosuke barely knows how to wield, let alone fight with a sword.

2. No matter how badly rubber boys want it to he Luffy, he is not a Samurai. Literally nothing about him is Samurai like, basic thing is to fight with a sword....I do not see one 😐

Monstrous Samurai is Zoro :cheers:

Izo doesn't use a sword.

 

[Malio]

@AdmiralKinyagi is the entire circus
Boy said ryuma has parallels with luffy

Cause Ryuma picked his nose

 

[serialwinnerv7]

It's almost like Yamato will meet a man who will look exactly like the samurai who saved her and wields one of the greatest samurai's sword.

 

[Malio]

Izo is a samurai regardless your argument is invalid.

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Izo doesn't use a sword.

He did before he left Wano. Now cope it's Zoro and will never be luffy

 

[serialwinnerv7]

https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/the-meaning-of-kaidos-words-in-chapter-993.13725/

Peep this thread too. This was before the Ryuma reveal too.

 

[Herrera95]

People voting and saying Luffy hahahaha

 

[serialwinnerv7]

The intro is Ryuma himself being hungry af and being helped my a girl. With him later killing the dragon to help her.

Reminds me of someone who fainted because of hunger and the girl fed him then asked him to protect Wano

 

[Ask D question]

People also seem to miss that Ryuma has a ton of parallels with Luffy and not just Zoro

Not really

Ryuma is entirely written to parralel zoro

 

[ShinmenTakezo]

Luffy can´t be a samurai.

 

[cleanmrpostman]

Izo is a samurai regardless your argument is invalid.

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Izo doesn't use a sword.

My argument wasn't whether or not Izo was a samurai, I was undermining your implication that since Izo is a samurai, Luffy must therefore be one, as if they have equal portrayal as such. Izo being a samurai doesn't give him significance in the narrative by default, nor does it immediately compare him to Oden or Ryuma, yet you're suggesting Luffy's not just a samurai, but will be a samurai who's significantly compared to Oden and/or Ryuma, despite not being able to scar or even cut Kaido, cutting him being the event that created this 'Monster samurai' quote in the first place.

 

[matt245]

Reminds me of someone who fainted because of hunger and the girl fed him then asked him to protect Wano

Coincidences

 

[mly90]

It's almost like Yamato will meet a man who will look exactly like the samurai who saved her and wields one of the greatest samurai's sword.

Two actually don't forget Wado that is every bit as good and same rank as Enma plus forged by same man.
Even Sandai has ties to Wano created by Hitetsu who also made the Ame no habakiri:cheers:

 

[Adamxero]

He did before he left Wano. Now cope it's Zoro and will never be luffy

Yeah and he stopped using a sword so does that mean because he stopped using a sword he's no longer a samurai?

I think not.

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My argument wasn't whether or not Izo was a samurai, I was undermining your implication that since Izo is a samurai, Luffy must therefore be one, as if they have equal portrayal as such. Izo being a samurai doesn't give him significance in the narrative by default, nor does it immediately compare him to Oden or Ryuma, yet you're suggesting Luffy's not just a samurai, but will be a samurai who's significantly compared to Oden and/or Ryuma, despite not being able to scar or even cut Kaido, cutting him being the event that created this 'Monster samurai' quote in the first place.

Luffy has been compared to Oden lmao did you forgot the panel where Kaido asked how high will Luffy's ceiling go and he compared him to Oden.

That's more comparison to Oden than Zoro has ever got this arc. Being a monster samurai isn't about scarring him but about beating Kaido and Luffy is going to do that and Zoro won't.

 

[The White Crane]

That was your ZKK moment. Enjoy it.

:cheers:

 

[cleanmrpostman]

Luffy has been compared to Oden lmao did you forgot the panel where Kaido asked how high will Luffy's ceiling go and he compared him to Oden.

That's more comparison to Oden than Zoro has ever got this arc. Being a monster samurai isn't about scarring him but about beating Kaido and Luffy is going to do that and Zoro won't.

A single panel of people significant to the narrative at that point whom Kaido considered strong is greater comparison than Zoro taking up Oden's legendary blade that no one else could wield, given to him by Oden's daughter, and then scarring Kaido with it. All this after defeating and returning the blade of Wano's national treasure revered for centuries as the sword god of wano, the one eyed swordsman who slayed a dragon to save the capital? Sure thing, no bias there...

If being a monster samurai isn't about scarring kaido then why did his speech about such a samurai and explicit comparison of Oden only happen after the scabbards failed to do so?

 

[Malio]

Yeah and he stopped using a sword so does that mean because he stopped using a sword he's no longer a samurai?

I think not.

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Luffy has been compared to Oden lmao did you forgot the panel where Kaido asked how high will Luffy's ceiling go and he compared him to Oden.

That's more comparison to Oden than Zoro has ever got this arc. Being a monster samurai isn't about scarring him but about beating Kaido and Luffy is going to do that and Zoro won't.

Izo was a samurai because he used a sword (not his pistols). Luffy isn't one, has never been called one and he doesn't see himself as one (cause he doesn't use a sword).

:holdthisl:

 

[Adamxero]

Izo was a samurai because he used a sword (not his pistols). Luffy isn't one, has never been called one and he doesn't see himself as one (cause he doesn't use a sword).

:holdthisl:

Yet he uses guns now



Are you dumb?

 

[cleanmrpostman]

Yet he uses guns now



Are you dumb?

Oda might have done that so Whitebeard's crew had more diversity imo. So Izo's a samurai but not a swordsman if that makes sense

 

[Adamxero]

A single panel of people significant to the narrative at that point whom Kaido considered strong is greater comparison than Zoro taking up Oden's legendary blade that no one else could wield, given to him by Oden's daughter, and then scarring Kaido with it. All this after defeating and returning the blade of Wano's national treasure revered for centuries as the sword god of wano, the one eyed swordsman who slayed a dragon to save the capital? Sure thing, no bias there...

If being a monster samurai isn't about scarring kaido then why did his speech about such a samurai and explicit comparison of Oden only happen after the scabbards failed to do so?

A monster samurai is in reference to someone being able to beat him. Kaido called Oden a monster samurai because Oden had the potential to beat him when the fought which was why he was angry the old woman interfered as it stopped him having a 1 v 1 with someone with the strength to challenge him.

Kaido said to the scabbards they weren't monster samurai's because after their attack it did no where near the damage Oden did and he didn't view them as worthy.

Why would he only view someone who could scar him a monster samurai that makes no sense it makes much more sense that he views someone as a monster if they can actually beat him.

When Zoro scarred him he didn't mention Zoro being a monster or anything in fact he shrugged him off a mere nuisance.

 

[HA001]

A monster samurai is in reference to someone being able to beat him. Kaido called Oden a monster samurai because Oden had the potential to beat him when the fought which was why he was angry the old woman interfered as it stopped him having a 1 v 1 with someone with the strength to challenge him.

Kaido said to the scabbards they weren't monster samurai's because after their attack it did no where near the damage Oden did and he didn't view them as worthy.

Why would he only view someone who could scar him a monster samurai that makes no sense it makes much more sense that he views someone as a monster if they can actually beat him.

When Zoro scarred him he didn't mention Zoro being a monster or anything in fact he shrugged him off a mere nuisance.

Monster samurai is someone who can KILL him not beat him after he ran a 16 man gauntlet.
When he spoke to the scabbards he was talking about them KILLING HIM