Questions & Mysteries Who is WSM and WSC after WB and Kaido died?

Will WSM and WSC be reused on someone else?

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Foul Legacy

#22
I think both WSM and WSC will be given to someone in the future and the reason why nobody has them now is precisely because of that future decision. Right now they also belong to someone already but arent revealed.
Luffy - WSC (Zoan)
Zoro - WSS (swordsman)
Akainu - WSM (OP logia)
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#23
Most likely not, the WSM and the WSC were used to hype the specific characters. Secondly they got these titles because of their DFs (they were top tier without the DFs too). And even though their DFs were inherited by other characters the other characters were not given the title because the other characters are just not on that level yet.
BB declared himself to be the strongest after getting WBs DF but nobody recognized him as such, the Gorosei even thought that Marco could challenge and stop him. So while the DF was a major source of them getting the titles, their individual strength and haki was also a great part of it.
Momo got Kaido's DF and he has got Oden's body genes but since he has not the individual power he is not recognized as such.
These titles are not given and earned like the WSS.

Idk if I made myself clear. WB's DF was hyped as he could destroy the world, BB declared himself the strongest after getting WB's DF. Kaido's DF was also hyped in a such a way in the GV flashback as well as BM's claim of Kaido owing her a favor because of the DF. The DF was the prize of the CDs game. See how the DFs are hyped and the worthy users of these DFs are recognized as the WSM and the WSC. BB and Momo are not worthy users of these DFs just yet and neither do they have the clout and accomplishments which are recognized as such by the public much less the readers.

WSS is completely different from the other two in this regard. People mistake WB and Roger rivalry and WB being WSM and apply the same to Mihawk and Shanks. WB was always compared to Roger and shown his equal, never above while Mihawk is compared to Shanks and explicitly shown above.

Of the people that we have currently in the series, I can somehow see maybe Fujitora getting one of the titles since he was already a monster before getting the DF before DR. His DF is pretty OP, is probably on the same level as WB's and that Fuji was already Admiral level before getting the DF. I dont think after gaining the DF, Fuji suddenly jumped tiers above like a lot of the people here theorize on power levels and increase things linearly. At the top, the DFs give you more versatility and haki is always shown superior to DF.

Roger = WB is canon fact, WB having the WSM does not put him above Roger. Anyone who says that WB and Roger fought and WB it was a draw because WB did not use his DF is just full of shit, the person is fat fucker living in a basement who never competed with another man (except in being a fat fuck). Rivalries don't have this type of shit where one party is holding back a significant part of their power. Its the same shitty train of thought that says Shanks and Mihawk had duels with their hakis turned off.
Well, I do think all 3 of the titles are used to hype up those who wield them, for a good reason, because they are the strongest.
I explained in my other thread that they were obtained in different periods and why the WSC>WSM>WSS doesnt hold weight in present.
I agree that in the case of WSC and WSM, DF was a significant part of their power but they had other things that also were on a high level which made them into the strongest while others, as you pointed out, despite having the same DFs arent World's Strongest, despite Blackbeard bragging about it.

I would be very surprised if Fujitora obtained WSM, which would make him stronger than Mihawk, considering his lack of haki of handful of the strongest. Also, I dont think WB=Roger and no, I am not a fat fuck who thinks WB would win due to DF, lol. :hurry: What Roger has going on for himself is those statements that they are equal and WB never wielding the WSM during Roger's era, despite databook saying so, I only give credit to Oda's direct word - manga and SBS. Due to that, they may have been equal indeed but if WB had WSM during Roger's era, he was stronger, despite the claims of equality. The battle between Roger and WB that he saw indeed shows them as equal but that battle was never fought until a winner emerged and I think that would have been WB, IF he had WSM during that time.

If Akainu and Aokiji ended their battle after 3 days, they would be equal too. However, we saw that after 10 days, one emerges victorious. I think Mihawk vs Shanks is exactly the same, with the difference of WSS being wielded by Mihawk during Shanks' prime era for which we have no confirmation in manga for Roger and WB. Mihawk also never defeated Shanks, just like WB never defeated Roger but we know due to WSS that Mihawk is stronger and would emerge victorious IF they fought until the end. The same should apply to WB vs Roger.

All that aside, I believe that all 3 of the titles belong to Mihawk now as there is no man stronger than him nor a creature.

Kaido was WSM as well
I think that is just a figure of speech. Or simply man in a sense of being male.
We know for a fact that Kaido isnt a human but an Oni and also WB wouldnt be WSM if Kaido was.


Luffy - WSC (Zoan)
Zoro - WSS (swordsman)
Akainu - WSM (OP logia)
All belong to Mihawk, imo.
However, they will never be attached to him.
They will unify on Zoro though.
 
#25
Well, I do think all 3 of the titles are used to hype up those who wield them, for a good reason, because they are the strongest.
I explained in my other thread that they were obtained in different periods and why the WSC>WSM>WSS doesnt hold weight in present.
I agree that in the case of WSC and WSM, DF was a significant part of their power but they had other things that also were on a high level which made them into the strongest while others, as you pointed out, despite having the same DFs arent World's Strongest, despite Blackbeard bragging about it.

I would be very surprised if Fujitora obtained WSM, which would make him stronger than Mihawk, considering his lack of haki of handful of the strongest. Also, I dont think WB=Roger and no, I am not a fat fuck who thinks WB would win due to DF, lol. :hurry: What Roger has going on for himself is those statements that they are equal and WB never wielding the WSM during Roger's era, despite databook saying so, I only give credit to Oda's direct word - manga and SBS. Due to that, they may have been equal indeed but if WB had WSM during Roger's era, he was stronger, despite the claims of equality. The battle between Roger and WB that he saw indeed shows them as equal but that battle was never fought until a winner emerged and I think that would have been WB, IF he had WSM during that time.

If Akainu and Aokiji ended their battle after 3 days, they would be equal too. However, we saw that after 10 days, one emerges victorious. I think Mihawk vs Shanks is exactly the same, with the difference of WSS being wielded by Mihawk during Shanks' prime era for which we have no confirmation in manga for Roger and WB. Mihawk also never defeated Shanks, just like WB never defeated Roger but we know due to WSS that Mihawk is stronger and would emerge victorious IF they fought until the end. The same should apply to WB vs Roger.

All that aside, I believe that all 3 of the titles belong to Mihawk now as there is no man stronger than him nor a creature.


I think that is just a figure of speech. Or simply man in a sense of being male.
We know for a fact that Kaido isnt a human but an Oni and also WB wouldnt be WSM if Kaido was.



All belong to Mihawk, imo.
However, they will never be attached to him.
They will unify on Zoro though.
Well Kaido isn't a chick for sure
 
#28
Blackbeard declared himself the strongest after stealing Whitebeard devil fruit so it's him. Especially if he ends up beating Shanks and getting a third devil fruit
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#29
Blackbeard declared himself the strongest after stealing Whitebeard devil fruit so it's him. Especially if he ends up beating Shanks and getting a third devil fruit
Do you think Oda should give him the intro box stating that at some point in that case? :sanmoji:
And how can a guy who claims to be the strongest piss his pants at the sight of an old man?
Something doesnt add up...
 
#31
Do you think Oda should give him the intro box stating that at some point in that case? :sanmoji:
And how can a guy who claims to be the strongest piss his pants at the sight of an old man?
Something doesnt add up...
Blackbeard is a coward yes but he is undeniably strong. If Oda does indeed plan on making him the main antagonist and final boss then I would not be surprised if he gets some kind of title too to hype him up.
Maybe instead of the more specific titles of "The world strongest man" or "The world strongest creature" his title will be a more general "The world strongest" so as to not leave anything to interpretation
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#32
Blackbeard is a coward yes but he is undeniably strong. If Oda does indeed plan on making him the main antagonist and final boss then I would not be surprised if he gets some kind of title too to hype him up.
Maybe instead of the more specific titles of "The world strongest man" or "The world strongest creature" his title will be a more general "The world strongest" so as to not leave anything to interpretation
He may have plans to make him the strongest, surely possible but right now he probably is not there yet, considering powering up with a 3rd DF in the future. If he does make him into the strongest I definitely expect a title to confirm it officially. And yes, I do believe that he is Luffy's greatest opponent.
 
#33
Why hasnt anyone received those titles? :quest:
With old WSM and WSC gone, someone else is the World's Strongest Man and the World's Strongest Creature.
And yet, nobody has obtained those titles... Why is that so?
Who should wield them in the present?
WSM is probably Mihawk and WSC is either a Gorosei,Segoku or BlackBeard(i think he ate a mythical zoan and he has something going on with his body).
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Blackbeard is a coward yes but he is undeniably strong. If Oda does indeed plan on making him the main antagonist and final boss then I would not be surprised if he gets some kind of title too to hype him up.
Maybe instead of the more specific titles of "The world strongest man" or "The world strongest creature" his title will be a more general "The world strongest" so as to not leave anything to interpretation
"The World's most dangerous man" sounds like an alright title for him.
 
#36
WSM is probably Mihawk and WSC is either a Gorosei,Segoku or BlackBeard(i think he ate a mythical zoan and he has something going on with his body).
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"The World's most dangerous man" sounds like an alright title for him.
How about most merciless /cruel man bc of the things he did on his way
 
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