General & Others Who still thinks Zoro surpasses Oden this arc ?

Would Zoro defeat Oden in 1 vs 1 combat at the end of Wano ?


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Are you guys forgetting that Zoro used CoC against Kaido when he used ashura?
And that this ashura did less damage than Oden's Togen totsuka?

If Zoro with ashura which is his 5 second finishing technique can't replicate Oden's AP level, why do you suggest that Zoro is even close to Oden's level?

However, I think Zoro will surpass Oden in EoS when he turns Wado Ichimonji into a black blade.
 

nik87

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Zoro cant surpass Oden because he has never been below him in the post-TS...
Oden needed CoC to tame Enma, Zoro did it without CoC.
Oden needed CoC to scar Kaido, Zoro did it without CoC.

Oden clowned dragon form Kaido, Zoro clowned hybrid form Kaido.
Oden didnt work for it, Zoro worked for it.
Oden is not a measuring stick for Zoro, Zoro is a measuring stick for everyone.

Zoro didnt need CoC to beat Oden, he needed it to satisfy Enma.
Pleasing Enma has nothing to do with Zoro vs Oden.
Santoryu Zoro without CoC is more than enough to beat Oden. Zoro is the greatest ever, not Oden.
 
Zoro cant surpass Oden because he has never been below him in the post-TS...
Oden needed CoC to tame Enma, Zoro did it without CoC.
Oden needed CoC to scar Kaido, Zoro did it without CoC.

Oden clowned dragon form Kaido, Zoro clowned hybrid form Kaido.
Oden didnt work for it, Zoro worked for it.
Oden is not a measuring stick for Zoro, Zoro is a measuring stick for everyone.

Zoro didnt need CoC to beat Oden, he needed it to satisfy Enma.
Pleasing Enma has nothing to do with Zoro vs Oden.
Santoryu Zoro without CoC is more than enough to beat Oden. Zoro is the greatest ever, not Oden.
in zoro piece
 
Zoro cant surpass Oden because he has never been below him in the post-TS...
Oden needed CoC to tame Enma, Zoro did it without CoC.
Oden needed CoC to scar Kaido, Zoro did it without CoC.

Oden clowned dragon form Kaido, Zoro clowned hybrid form Kaido.
Oden didnt work for it, Zoro worked for it.
Oden is not a measuring stick for Zoro, Zoro is a measuring stick for everyone.

Zoro didnt need CoC to beat Oden, he needed it to satisfy Enma.
Pleasing Enma has nothing to do with Zoro vs Oden.
Santoryu Zoro without CoC is more than enough to beat Oden. Zoro is the greatest ever, not Oden.
Fiction
 
No yet,he is struggling with Enma.Oden already had mastered Enma,Ryo and COC by the time he fought Kaido.But if Zoro leaves Wano with a Black Blade i would say yes.
 
Are you guys forgetting that Zoro used CoC against Kaido when he used ashura?
And that this ashura did less damage than Oden's Togen totsuka?

If Zoro with ashura which is his 5 second finishing technique can't replicate Oden's AP level, why do you suggest that Zoro is even close to Oden's level?

However, I think Zoro will surpass Oden in EoS when he turns Wado Ichimonji into a black blade.
zoro had 30 broken bones
enma wasnt mastered
probably used 1%of his conq coating

now zoro has all 3 swords coated in conq coating and ryou
haki is equal on all 3
zoro has no broken bones
shit will be different
 
Zoro literally said that the reason he didn't fully Tame Enma was because he didn't release all of his Haki
Not only that, but when he gave Kaido a Permanant Scar, he did it while being massively injured & tired & that was simply all that's left of him

A Full Haki Fresh Asura from Zoro would cut even the Manga Panel in half, not just Kaido
 
No yet,he is struggling with Enma.Oden already had mastered Enma,Ryo and COC by the time he fought Kaido.But if Zoro leaves Wano with a Black Blade i would say yes.
If Oden mastered Enma it would have already been a black blade.
If Zoro leaves Wano with a black blade that means he is already a legendary figure, this would automatically place him over every swordsman except Mihawk which isn't the case, I doubt EoW Zoro beats Shanks or Fujitora

Anyway after this chapter then yes current Zoro is above Oden, the handicap from Enma is now gone and he can use advCoC already to a level higher than Oden.
 

Cinera

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If Oden mastered Enma it would have already been a black blade.
If Zoro leaves Wano with a black blade that means he is already a legendary figure, this would automatically place him over every swordsman except Mihawk which isn't the case, I doubt EoW Zoro beats Shanks or Fujitora

Anyway after this chapter then yes current Zoro is above Oden, the handicap from Enma is now gone and he can use advCoC already to a level higher than Oden.
Zoro only surpasses Oden when he blackens Enma.
 
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