Future Events Who will be the final villain?
- Thread starter Garp the Fist
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I haven't personally read this interview, so I don't know how legit it is. But hasn't Oda gone on record stating One Piece won't end when Luffy becomes pirate king? To me, that implies all his rivals for Pirate King will be defeated (i.e. teach) and he'll have to face the last threat left, the W.G.. This also fits nicely into Luffy's definition of what would make him the actual pirate king—being the freest man in the world. The entity that is directly opposed to this mentality would be the 800 year old tyrannical, illuminati run government.
There are other reasons to think Shanks is the end antagonist that doesn't paint him as a "Mastermind". Im already seems to fit that description anyway. I see Shanks as a potentially troubled/flawed character.
- Ongoing conversations about other pirates to people who literally discuss mass genocide/rule the world through oppression/war
- Oddly respected by Sengoku "Because it's him"
- Always displaces a competitive/"evil" looking face when Luffy is mentioned
- Lucky Roo straight up shoots a bandit in the head (which no other "good" or protagonist type character has ever done). The Red Haired Pirates straight up brutalized Kid and his arm.
- An unknown question he asked Roger is currently unanswered.
So no, while I don't think Shanks is "evil" and a "Mastermind", I don't think it's white and black. The guy likely is alot more grey than we know. Yes, he cares and respects Luffy, yes he is likely trying to have him rise to the top, but I think it's all based in an ideology he thinks Luffy has.
It's like MLK and Malcolm X. Both wanted the same thing, yet both tried to achieve their goals in massively different ways. The same could possiblt be said about Shanks/Roger or Shanks/Luffy.
At the moment, we just totally don't know
- Ongoing conversations about other pirates to people who literally discuss mass genocide/rule the world through oppression/war
- Oddly respected by Sengoku "Because it's him"
- Always displaces a competitive/"evil" looking face when Luffy is mentioned
- Lucky Roo straight up shoots a bandit in the head (which no other "good" or protagonist type character has ever done). The Red Haired Pirates straight up brutalized Kid and his arm.
- An unknown question he asked Roger is currently unanswered.
So no, while I don't think Shanks is "evil" and a "Mastermind", I don't think it's white and black. The guy likely is alot more grey than we know. Yes, he cares and respects Luffy, yes he is likely trying to have him rise to the top, but I think it's all based in an ideology he thinks Luffy has.
It's like MLK and Malcolm X. Both wanted the same thing, yet both tried to achieve their goals in massively different ways. The same could possiblt be said about Shanks/Roger or Shanks/Luffy.
At the moment, we just totally don't know
Wow a lot of people want Imu to be the final villan huh? 
That's fine by me, I just hope that Oda gives him enough buildup, panel time and conflict with luffy for it to work.
Depending on how much the story is left, I don't want Imu to end up like the rabbit god in Naruto, a boring villain who was introduced too late into the story who I never cared about.
Good final villians are made when they are at the top of the main protagonists number one kill list. :cheers:
Interested in seeing how Oda is gonna make us end up hating Imu more than even Akainu and Blackbeard.
That's fine by me, I just hope that Oda gives him enough buildup, panel time and conflict with luffy for it to work.
Depending on how much the story is left, I don't want Imu to end up like the rabbit god in Naruto, a boring villain who was introduced too late into the story who I never cared about.
Good final villians are made when they are at the top of the main protagonists number one kill list. :cheers:
Interested in seeing how Oda is gonna make us end up hating Imu more than even Akainu and Blackbeard.
It depends. It won't be Teach, though he will be the apex villain, simply because the final war is almost definitely going to be triggered by Luffys emergence as pirate king
Which leaves the only options being Im, Akainu or one of Luffy's rivals
IMO Smoker and Coby take the reigns of a reformed marines post-final war - they are not final villain material
Dragon is not a villain
Shanks is not a villain
Kong isn't even an option - if it's someone from the WG it's Im or Akainu - Kong's like, maybe 9th choice on the list after all the Gorosei, the aforementioned two and the three Admirals below Akainu, whomever they are at the time
Rocks is probably dead - so not him
Which leaves the only options being Im, Akainu or one of Luffy's rivals
IMO Smoker and Coby take the reigns of a reformed marines post-final war - they are not final villain material
Dragon is not a villain
Shanks is not a villain
Kong isn't even an option - if it's someone from the WG it's Im or Akainu - Kong's like, maybe 9th choice on the list after all the Gorosei, the aforementioned two and the three Admirals below Akainu, whomever they are at the time
Rocks is probably dead - so not him
Wow a lot of people want Imu to be the final villan huh?
That's fine by me, I just hope that Oda gives him enough buildup, panel time and conflict with luffy for it to work.
Depending on how much the story is left, I don't want Imu to end up like the rabbit god in Naruto, a boring villain who was introduced too late into the story who I never cared about.
Good final villians are made when they are at the top of the main protagonists number one kill list. :cheers:
Interested in seeing how Oda is gonna make us end up hating Imu more than even Akainu and Blackbeard.
That's fine by me, I just hope that Oda gives him enough buildup, panel time and conflict with luffy for it to work.
Depending on how much the story is left, I don't want Imu to end up like the rabbit god in Naruto, a boring villain who was introduced too late into the story who I never cared about.
Good final villians are made when they are at the top of the main protagonists number one kill list. :cheers:
Interested in seeing how Oda is gonna make us end up hating Imu more than even Akainu and Blackbeard.
Theres build up as king of all where even the gorosei bow to him. Its a title rox sought.
Kaguya was last min shit.
Do you guys still remember what WB said right before his death?
On that panel WB implied that someone will inherit roger's will, and will challenge the whole world and shoulder centuries of history. In my eyes, the only way to expose those histories is to find the one piece as it was also implicitly shown on that panel.
Does it mean Luffy will fight BB first to compete for the one piece and will fight the Marine afterwards?
On that panel WB implied that someone will inherit roger's will, and will challenge the whole world and shoulder centuries of history. In my eyes, the only way to expose those histories is to find the one piece as it was also implicitly shown on that panel.
Does it mean Luffy will fight BB first to compete for the one piece and will fight the Marine afterwards?
