Future Events Who will beat the Admirals ?
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I don't remember getting kicked of a PM then crying about a PM publicly on the forum, and even lying and slandering about someone as if that someone asked for likes. Don't push this rival narrative because you feel sorry for Liroyru now.You didn't prove the lies about Yonko PM but at least you proved again you can't read.
When did I ever say they should be ''stronger''? I said ''not losing''.
1- ''Not losing'' isn't equal to = being stronger, even Fleet Admiral Red Dog who won vs. Aokiji is not really stronger than him by noticeable margin, someone needed to win at the 10th day in extreme extreme diff, and it was Red Dog by the slightest margin. At best it can be said Red Dog is only a little bit stronger by the slightest margin, they are extremely close.
''A guy in my position (Admiral) can't go around getting beat by Pirate Subordinates!''
2- Green Bull says ''Pirate Subordinates'' in VIZ translation not mere Yonko commanders, I think that should be the accurate translation since what if they are not Yonko commanders, like Rayleigh wasn't PK Right Hand at the moment when they fought WB, and Roger was not Yonko as well, Roger was a Great Pirate, at that time Rayleigh was the right hand of a Great Pirate Roger, so that statement wouldn't make sense if its only for Yonko Commanders, obviously its for all Pirate Underlings.
There should be a reason why Admirals sometimes mentioned by people like Chinjao or by Luffy himself to be in the same group as Yonko. Why they are seen as stronger than majority of the Shichibukai, they should be possibly stronger than Mihawk, and at least as strong as 1 DF BB. While they are weaker than Yonko by noticeable margin, they should at least be strong enough to ''not lose'' vs even the strongest Pirate Subordinates, Admirals should be at least be as strong as that.
I quoted from Green Bitch, he was talking about ''Pirate Subordinates and Admirals''. Thats what underling for. Also, Marine Ranks are simply different than Pirates, Sengoku wasn't stronger than Red Dog just because Red Dog was lower rank, or if Red Dog didn't exist, Aokiji was going to be chosen as Fleet Admiral over Kizaru, Fujitora and Green Bull.
Rayleigh = Sengoku is a fair comparison. If someone is going to win between them then its extreme extreme diff by the slightest margin similar to Red Dog vs Aokiji, which could go either way depending on the situation.
If we are going to accept Green Bitch's statement about a Yonko such as Kaido being superior to Admirals, then we should also accept his other statement about Admirals shouldn't lose to Pirate Subordinates. Admirals were suppose to be the strongest fighters of World Government and they were suppose to be stronger than the majority of the Shicihibukai, possibly stronger than Shichibukai Mihawk, and they should be at least as strong as Shichibukai 1 DF BB.
They might be beaten, but if its going to be vs. a Pirate subordinate, then it must be extreme extreme diff like Red Dog vs Aokiji by the slightest margin, so they must be at least as strong as strongest pirate subordinates. As Green Bitch said, Admirals losing to a Yonko such as Kaido is acceptable, but Admirals losing to a Pirate Subordinates is not acceptable, if that happens they probably lose their position as Admiral, so that would be the end of their Admiral career.
I don't remember getting kicked of a PM then crying about a PM publicly on the forum, and even lying and slandering about someone as if that someone asked for likes. Don't push this rival narrative because you feel sorry for Liroyru now.You didn't prove the lies about Yonko PM but at least you proved again you can't read.
When did I ever say they should be ''stronger''? I said ''not losing''.
1- ''Not losing'' isn't equal to = being stronger, even Fleet Admiral Red Dog who won vs. Aokiji is not really stronger than him by noticeable margin, someone needed to win at the 10th day in extreme extreme diff, and it was Red Dog by the slightest margin. At best it can be said Red Dog is only a little bit stronger by the slightest margin, they are extremely close.
''A guy in my position (Admiral) can't go around getting beat by Pirate Subordinates!''
2- Green Bull says ''Pirate Subordinates'' in VIZ translation not mere Yonko commanders, I think that should be the accurate translation since what if they are not Yonko commanders, like Rayleigh wasn't PK Right Hand at the moment when they fought WB, and Roger was not Yonko as well, Roger was a Great Pirate, at that time Rayleigh was the right hand of a Great Pirate Roger, so that statement wouldn't make sense if its only for Yonko Commanders, obviously its for all Pirate Underlings.
There should be a reason why Admirals sometimes mentioned by people like Chinjao or by Luffy himself to be in the same group as Yonko. Why they are seen as stronger than majority of the Shichibukai, they should be possibly stronger than Mihawk, and at least as strong as 1 DF BB. While they are weaker than Yonko by noticeable margin, they should at least be strong enough to ''not lose'' vs even the strongest Pirate Subordinates, Admirals should be at least be as strong as that.
I quoted from Green Bitch, he was talking about ''Pirate Subordinates and Admirals''. Thats what underling for. Also, Marine Ranks are simply different than Pirates, Sengoku wasn't stronger than Red Dog just because Red Dog was lower rank, or if Red Dog didn't exist, Aokiji was going to be chosen as Fleet Admiral over Kizaru, Fujitora and Green Bull.
Rayleigh = Sengoku is a fair comparison. If someone is going to win between them then its extreme extreme diff by the slightest margin similar to Red Dog vs Aokiji, which could go either way depending on the situation.
If we are going to accept Green Bitch's statement about a Yonko such as Kaido being superior to Admirals, then we should also accept his other statement about Admirals shouldn't lose to Pirate Subordinates. Admirals were suppose to be the strongest fighters of World Government and they were suppose to be stronger than the majority of the Shicihibukai, possibly stronger than Shichibukai Mihawk, and they should be at least as strong as Shichibukai 1 DF BB.
They might be beaten, but if its going to be vs. a Pirate subordinate, then it must be extreme extreme diff like Red Dog vs Aokiji by the slightest margin, so they must be at least as strong as strongest pirate subordinates. As Green Bitch said, Admirals losing to a Yonko such as Kaido is acceptable, but Admirals losing to a Pirate Subordinates is not acceptable, if that happens they probably lose their position as Admiral, so that would be the end of their Admiral career.
1- Green Bitch is much more realistic and consistent than retarded Pica, as GB admitted inferiority to Kaido, GB showed that he could be humble and much more reasonable, while Pica was delusional, so GB is much more reliable source compared to Pica.
2- Pica's delusion was already proven to be wrong. When did Pirate Subordinates beat an Admiral so we should ignore GB's statement, plus there are many reasons that why Admirals shouldn't lose to the Pirate Subordinates due to their importance in the series, which that I mentioned above.
2- Pica's delusion was already proven to be wrong. When did Pirate Subordinates beat an Admiral so we should ignore GB's statement, plus there are many reasons that why Admirals shouldn't lose to the Pirate Subordinates due to their importance in the series, which that I mentioned above.
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You think Oda will have Luffy fight an Admiral other than Akainu?
The only person that takes priority over Akainu in that scenario is Imu, not another admiral imo
The only person that takes priority over Akainu in that scenario is Imu, not another admiral imo
Fight vs Akainu will happen near Goroseri/Im. Luffy will go on to Im or something.
Sabo vs Akainu is written in the stars, certain fire can burn hotter than magma. Oda won't pass a chance on it.
That was assuming WB wasn't nerfed as Garp previously said WB was King of the Seas.
WB > Admiral.
Rayleigh = Admiral.
Marco + Jozu could stalemate an Admiral.
That would put Marines in an incredibly tough situation depending on how fast WB was going to beat an Admiral. Nothing Garp said was wrong.
Kizaru didn't run, it was a stalemate with Rayleigh, where none of them could win.
We've no idea how powerful underling WB was, nothing to suggest he was stronger than an Admiral at that time of period, we don't even know if WB had his DF at that time when he was underling of Xebec. Young Kaido, young BM, as Sengoku said were not in their prime. DFless BB was top 3 in WB pirates alongside with Marco and Jozu, not stronger an Admiral.
WB > Admiral.
Rayleigh = Admiral.
Marco + Jozu could stalemate an Admiral.
That would put Marines in an incredibly tough situation depending on how fast WB was going to beat an Admiral. Nothing Garp said was wrong.
Kizaru didn't run, it was a stalemate with Rayleigh, where none of them could win.
We've no idea how powerful underling WB was, nothing to suggest he was stronger than an Admiral at that time of period, we don't even know if WB had his DF at that time when he was underling of Xebec. Young Kaido, young BM, as Sengoku said were not in their prime. DFless BB was top 3 in WB pirates alongside with Marco and Jozu, not stronger an Admiral.
I don't remember getting kicked of a PM then crying about a PM publicly on the forum, and even lying and slandering about someone as if that someone asked for likes. Don't push this rival narrative because you feel sorry for Liroyru now.You didn't prove the lies about Yonko PM but at least you proved again you can't read.
When did I ever say they should be ''stronger''? I said ''not losing''.
1- ''Not losing'' isn't equal to = being stronger, even Fleet Admiral Red Dog who won vs. Aokiji is not really stronger than him by noticeable margin, someone needed to win at the 10th day in extreme extreme diff, and it was Red Dog by the slightest margin. At best it can be said Red Dog is only a little bit stronger by the slightest margin, they are extremely close.
''A guy in my position (Admiral) can't go around getting beat by Pirate Subordinates!''
2- Green Bull says ''Pirate Subordinates'' in VIZ translation not mere Yonko commanders, I think that should be the accurate translation since what if they are not Yonko commanders, like Rayleigh wasn't PK Right Hand at the moment when they fought WB, and Roger was not Yonko as well, Roger was a Great Pirate, at that time Rayleigh was the right hand of a Great Pirate Roger, so that statement wouldn't make sense if its only for Yonko Commanders, obviously its for all Pirate Underlings.
There should be a reason why Admirals sometimes mentioned by people like Chinjao or by Luffy himself to be in the same group as Yonko. Why they are seen as stronger than majority of the Shichibukai, they should be possibly stronger than Mihawk, and at least as strong as 1 DF BB. While they are weaker than Yonko by noticeable margin, they should at least be strong enough to ''not lose'' vs even the strongest Pirate Subordinates, Admirals should be at least be as strong as that.
I quoted from Green Bitch, he was talking about ''Pirate Subordinates and Admirals''. Thats what underling for. Also, Marine Ranks are simply different than Pirates, Sengoku wasn't stronger than Red Dog just because Red Dog was lower rank, or if Red Dog didn't exist, Aokiji was going to be chosen as Fleet Admiral over Kizaru, Fujitora and Green Bull.
Rayleigh = Sengoku is a fair comparison. If someone is going to win between them then its extreme extreme diff by the slightest margin similar to Red Dog vs Aokiji, which could go either way depending on the situation.
If we are going to accept Green Bitch's statement about a Yonko such as Kaido being superior to Admirals, then we should also accept his other statement about Admirals shouldn't lose to Pirate Subordinates. Admirals were suppose to be the strongest fighters of World Government and they were suppose to be stronger than the majority of the Shicihibukai, possibly stronger than Shichibukai Mihawk, and they should be at least as strong as Shichibukai 1 DF BB.
They might be beaten, but if its going to be vs. a Pirate subordinate, then it must be extreme extreme diff like Red Dog vs Aokiji by the slightest margin, so they must be at least as strong as strongest pirate subordinates. As Green Bitch said, Admirals losing to a Yonko such as Kaido is acceptable, but Admirals losing to a Pirate Subordinates is not acceptable, if that happens they probably lose their position as Admiral, so that would be the end of their Admiral career.
With the formation of Cross Guild they’re likely to be final opponents due to Mihawk being a part of it.
As such, letting this marine hunting guild take down two admirals as hype would be fitting for final opponents so Ideally:
Mihawk vs Fujitora (Mihawk gets a cool sword fight to hype his fighting style prior to fighting Zoro)
Crocodile vs Ryokugyu (Crocodiles logia power which was mentioned by marines gets insane hype by beating Ryokugyu)
As for Akainu, I can see him being a main fight for Sabo or luffy dependent on when he gets defeated.
As such, letting this marine hunting guild take down two admirals as hype would be fitting for final opponents so Ideally:
Mihawk vs Fujitora (Mihawk gets a cool sword fight to hype his fighting style prior to fighting Zoro)
Crocodile vs Ryokugyu (Crocodiles logia power which was mentioned by marines gets insane hype by beating Ryokugyu)
As for Akainu, I can see him being a main fight for Sabo or luffy dependent on when he gets defeated.
