Future Events Who will take down the 5 remnants Numbers?

#22
Following the assumption that they are hypetools, who are the 5 that will be hyped by defeating them?

I'm saying 5 because Hatcha seems set to be Franky's second number
 
#23
No him and Sasaki are definitely aiming for that calamity spot, infact all of them are tbh,
How does this rule out the weaker 6 fighting the 5 Tobi Roppo? Are they Disaster level just because they aim for that rank?

But there's emphasis put on Who's Who and Sasaki being former captains and aiming for that calamity spot.
The "captain" bit is how Kaido's crew operates. He beats you, then you and your crew join his eating Smiles. It plays into Kaido's "king of beast" motif.

Oda's not giving one of these guys to someone like Brook.
Based on what? Power levels? Since Buggy, Oda's been giving the Straw Hat's the big bad's main subordinates which the Tobi Roppo are. The Disasters are clearly for Zoro, Sanji, and Jimbei, so the weaker six will fight the Tobi Roppo.

If Page One could clash with Sanji you really think one of the strongest Tobi Roppo is gonna end up fighting Brook?
If Zoro and Sanji are beating King and Queen, calibers that gave Luffy hell last arc especially the former, then I expect the weaker six to beat the Tobi Roppo. I don't expect solo victories.
 
#24
How does this rule out the weaker 6 fighting the 5 Tobi Roppo? Are they Disaster level just because they aim for that rank?



The "captain" bit is how Kaido's crew operates. He beats you, then you and your crew join his eating Smiles. It plays into Kaido's "king of beast" motif.



Based on what? Power levels? Since Buggy, Oda's been giving the Straw Hat's the big bad's main subordinates which the Tobi Roppo are. The Disasters are clearly for Zoro, Sanji, and Jimbei, so the weaker six will fight the Tobi Roppo.



If Zoro and Sanji are beating King and Queen, calibers that gave Luffy hell last arc especially the former, then I expect the weaker six to beat the Tobi Roppo. I don't expect solo victories.
The the reason why it's hard to believe the straw hats outside of Luffy,Zoro, Sanji, Jimbei can do anything against a tobi roppo is because an arc ago perospero solo'd brook and chopper and they haven't gotten stronger since then.
 
#25
The the reason why it's hard to believe the straw hats outside of Luffy,Zoro, Sanji, Jimbei can do anything against a tobi roppo is because an arc ago perospero solo'd brook and chopper and they haven't gotten stronger since then.
Perospero caught an EXHAUSTED Brook and Chopper with hax powers. Later in that arc, Brook blitzed Big Mom and Chopper tanked her barrages. Then in this arc, Franky BRUISED Big Mom with his bike despite her "iron balloon" durability. As for power ups, Usopp got Observation Haki, Franky said on Zou he's building new weapons, and Nami's bound to get Zeus back. Not everyone thinks they'll solo their opponents, not Nami at least. The Straw Hats getting opponents that require big power level leaps to beat is expected this arc.
 
#26
Perospero caught an EXHAUSTED Brook and Chopper with hax powers. Later in that arc, Brook blitzed Big Mom and Chopper tanked her barrages. Then in this arc, Franky BRUISED Big Mom with his bike despite her "iron balloon" durability. As for power ups, Usopp got Observation Haki, Franky said on Zou he's building new weapons, and Nami's bound to get Zeus back. Not everyone thinks they'll solo their opponents, not Nami at least. The Straw Hats getting opponents that require big power level leaps to beat is expected this arc.
Plus Perospero was shown to be scared of Monster Point later in the arc, which clearly shows that Chopper wasn’t fighting him seriously
 
#27
For now, 4 are defeated:

Jaki (4) - Franky (Laser Beam)
Goki (5) - Luffy (Kong Gun)
Nagi (7) - Minks (Sulong)
Juki (10) - Drake (X Calibur)

Hatcha is outside with Franky, and although Franky vs Sasaki seems the most popular match up I could see Franky taking down like 5 Numbers in total during the war. That's my guess.

What do you think?
I dont even think those 4 are down for the count. Something tells me we'll see all 10 together at once
 
#28
Perospero caught an EXHAUSTED Brook and Chopper with hax powers. Later in that arc, Brook blitzed Big Mom and Chopper tanked her barrages. Then in this arc, Franky BRUISED Big Mom with his bike despite her "iron balloon" durability. As for power ups, Usopp got Observation Haki, Franky said on Zou he's building new weapons, and Nami's bound to get Zeus back. Not everyone thinks they'll solo their opponents, not Nami at least. The Straw Hats getting opponents that require big power level leaps to beat is expected this arc.
They weren't exahuasted stop that shit........ And That was because they all attacked Big Mom I together, and Big Mom didn't even take damage from brook, chopper or any of the straw hats in that encounter lol. Both The Ministers and Tobi Roppo have hax abiltiies that the weaker straw hats can't deal with. The Gap in power has never been this big when it comes to Usopp and Nami opponents. Thats why they got taken out in a chapter and had to get saved by Tama.
 
#29
They weren't exahuasted stop that shit........ And That was because they all attacked Big Mom I together, and Big Mom didn't even take damage from brook, chopper or any of the straw hats in that encounter lol. Both The Ministers and Tobi Roppo have hax abiltiies that the weaker straw hats can't deal with. The Gap in power has never been this big when it comes to Usopp and Nami opponents. Thats why they got taken out in a chapter and had to get saved by Tama.
Brook and Chopper were distracted by an army of fodders, and they weren’t even rightly Pero seriously
 
#31
They weren't exahuasted stop that shit........
No.


And That was because they all attacked Big Mom I together, and Big Mom didn't even take damage from brook, chopper or any of the straw hats in that encounter lol.
This isn't a group feat.



Tanking attacks is not a group feat.


This isn't to say the WCI weaker six (or at least Chopper, Robin, Franky, and Brook) are veteran level (and definitely NOT Yonko level), but they're a lot stronger than we give them credit for.

Both The Ministers and Tobi Roppo have hax abiltiies that the weaker straw hats can't deal with.
When I say "hax abilities," I mean special powers that give a character certain advantages over characters they're otherwise equal or much weaker than. Perona's ghosts are a classic example as is Sugar's ability to turn you into toys. Getting caught in Perospero's candy ould be an example.

The Gap in power has never been this big when it comes to Usopp and Nami opponents. Thats why they got taken out in a chapter and had to get saved by Tama.
The gap is big for everyone. Sanji's clearly beating Queen even though in a previous arc, Vergo almost broke his leg. And again, you ignore we don't expect ALL Straw Hats to solo their opponents.
 
#32
No.




This isn't a group feat.



Tanking attacks is not a group feat.


This isn't to say the WCI weaker six (or at least Chopper, Robin, Franky, and Brook) are veteran level (and definitely NOT Yonko level), but they're a lot stronger than we give them credit for.



When I say "hax abilities," I mean special powers that give a character certain advantages over characters they're otherwise equal or much weaker than. Perona's ghosts are a classic example as is Sugar's ability to turn you into toys. Getting caught in Perospero's candy ould be an example.



The gap is big for everyone. Sanji's clearly beating Queen even though in a previous arc, Vergo almost broke his leg. And again, you ignore we don't expect ALL Straw Hats to solo their opponents.
Sanji is not Clearly beating Queen stop the CAP..... He's clearly gonna be Involved in a commander fight. But he won't do it alone.
 

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#35
Here’s the thing @pg13 Oda doesn’t give a shot about power levels. He would have Usopp kill Kaido if it was beneficial for the story.
Lol I don't think he would, at least going from the last Usopp showings

But I agree that some scenes still look pretty forced when it comes to PLs

My first thought comes to Zoro v Apoo in particular, it didn't look regular at all if you ask me
 
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