Powers & Abilities Who's CoO is more Advanced
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Mihawk kept getting blocked and "postponing" fights. No wonder he didn't get a scratch.
Spent the whole war running like a coward.
Even bailed when Shanks arrived and he was like "Nope. I'm out of excuses to dodge fights, and SH is already out. So am I".
(Just kidding.
But not that much....)
Spent the whole war running like a coward.
Even bailed when Shanks arrived and he was like "Nope. I'm out of excuses to dodge fights, and SH is already out. So am I".
(Just kidding.
But not that much....)
To counter those points, the same thing could be said for most high/top tiers during MF. I meant if we were to used portrayals from that war then Kizaru's CoO is shit, getting kicked and blocked by Marco, same to Aokiji, getting tackled by Jozu and old sick WB.
Marco's and Vista's CoA is nothing because they weren't able to hurt Akainu even tho Akainu mentioned them using Haki. That or Akainu using FS to shape his body in order to avoid being cut.
But even so you can see my point as the current Marco is different from the one in MF.
Anyway, MF is a hype tool that lets the readers get a peak into what the peak of strength in One Piece world can be via WB. But only a small part of it as you surely know as the concept of Haki will only be explored more latter. If MF was to be realistic, the whole island would have been gone from the map and so would have most if not all of the WB alliance.
I thought you were cooler than this my man. I meant well, it's not that I haven't seen how much of a mess it can get when powerlevel is involved but well. Anyway, Here's my two cents.
To counter those points, the same thing could be said for most high/top tiers during MF. I meant if we were to used portrayals from that war then Kizaru's CoO is shit, getting kicked and blocked by Marco, same to Aokiji, getting tackled by Jozu and old sick WB.
Marco's and Vista's CoA is nothing because they weren't able to hurt Akainu even tho Akainu mentioned them using Haki. That or Akainu using FS to shape his body in order to avoid being cut.
But even so you can see my point as the current Marco is different from the one in MF.
Anyway, MF is a hype tool that lets the readers get a peak into what the peak of strength in One Piece world can be via WB. But only a small part of it as you surely know as the concept of Haki will only be explored more latter. If MF was to be realistic, the whole island would have been gone from the map and so would have most if not all of the WB alliance.
To counter those points, the same thing could be said for most high/top tiers during MF. I meant if we were to used portrayals from that war then Kizaru's CoO is shit, getting kicked and blocked by Marco, same to Aokiji, getting tackled by Jozu and old sick WB.
Marco's and Vista's CoA is nothing because they weren't able to hurt Akainu even tho Akainu mentioned them using Haki. That or Akainu using FS to shape his body in order to avoid being cut.
But even so you can see my point as the current Marco is different from the one in MF.
Anyway, MF is a hype tool that lets the readers get a peak into what the peak of strength in One Piece world can be via WB. But only a small part of it as you surely know as the concept of Haki will only be explored more latter. If MF was to be realistic, the whole island would have been gone from the map and so would have most if not all of the WB alliance.
Dont worry about that. I was just overreaching a little just because I think people overhype Mihawk way too much.
No sweat :cheers:
Well they have a reason to to be honest. But for now Kata has the best CoO portrayal. Nevertheless, Mihawk is a top tier while Kata isn't and he has an epithet related to sight so I think it's normal to be hyped about that.
Not to mention his own portrayal with Shanks, I meant I can't see Shanks throwing a party or meeting King or Kata on equal ground. As seen with how he treated Kidd when the other party doesn't know where they belong.
But well only the future can tell how things will go.
Not to mention his own portrayal with Shanks, I meant I can't see Shanks throwing a party or meeting King or Kata on equal ground. As seen with how he treated Kidd when the other party doesn't know where they belong.
But well only the future can tell how things will go.
Well they have a reason to to be honest. But for now Kata has the best CoO portrayal. Nevertheless, Mihawk is a top tier while Kata isn't and he has an epithet related to sight so I think it's normal to be hyped about that.
Not to mention his own portrayal with Shanks, I meant I can't see Shanks throwing a party or meeting King or Kata on equal ground. As seen with how he treated Kidd when the other party doesn't know where they belong.
But well only the future can tell how things will go.
Not to mention his own portrayal with Shanks, I meant I can't see Shanks throwing a party or meeting King or Kata on equal ground. As seen with how he treated Kidd when the other party doesn't know where they belong.
But well only the future can tell how things will go.
Katakuri's FS seems to be a way more broken feat than seeing far away. Doesn't really matter if Mihawk is stronger.
I agree with you, as I said that Kata has the best CoO portrayal in the series.
But that being said, we already saw most if not all of Kata's arsenal. While Mihawk is still a big mystery, even more than Big Mom, Kaido and what not since his prowess is not at all potrayed despite being introduced more than 20 years ago.
And since then, his portrayal is nothing but grandiose. One of the three known World Strongest title holders. "Equal to Shanks". Presumbly strongest Warlord. And most importantly Zoro's end goal.
I included the Shichibukai thing because it's one of the most important factor in the story. I can even go so far as calling it one of the main triggers of the story. This system is what makes One Piece as long as it is. Yes it sounds farfetched but stay with me.
As we all know, Oda first intended to end One Piece in 5 years with Luffy goes out to the sea and then goes on challenging the Emperors. This is a fact despite it being scrapped. Why? Because with Mihawk he introduced the Warlord System. Out of the 7 og Warlords, 3 of them are main villains for 3 different Saga (Crocodile, Moria, Dofflamingo). One of them is a great ally (Hancock). One of them is currently a crew member (Jinbei). One of them is the savior of the crew and plot moving device (Kuma), yes you heard me right.
And among those important people, Oda chose Mihawk to represent this concept. Yes so far, Mihawk hasn't played any role as important as his peers but you can't deny that Oda planned Mihawk to be someone really significant. So his fans have the right to hype him up or put their faith that he'd be stronger than a High End tier at their own field in my opinion.
Truth to be told I voted Mihawk's CoO more advanced too. But I do admit that Kata is better at it for now, because we simply haven't seen Mihawk do anything. Will take my "L" if it turns out differently than what I thought.
But that being said, we already saw most if not all of Kata's arsenal. While Mihawk is still a big mystery, even more than Big Mom, Kaido and what not since his prowess is not at all potrayed despite being introduced more than 20 years ago.
And since then, his portrayal is nothing but grandiose. One of the three known World Strongest title holders. "Equal to Shanks". Presumbly strongest Warlord. And most importantly Zoro's end goal.
I included the Shichibukai thing because it's one of the most important factor in the story. I can even go so far as calling it one of the main triggers of the story. This system is what makes One Piece as long as it is. Yes it sounds farfetched but stay with me.
As we all know, Oda first intended to end One Piece in 5 years with Luffy goes out to the sea and then goes on challenging the Emperors. This is a fact despite it being scrapped. Why? Because with Mihawk he introduced the Warlord System. Out of the 7 og Warlords, 3 of them are main villains for 3 different Saga (Crocodile, Moria, Dofflamingo). One of them is a great ally (Hancock). One of them is currently a crew member (Jinbei). One of them is the savior of the crew and plot moving device (Kuma), yes you heard me right.
And among those important people, Oda chose Mihawk to represent this concept. Yes so far, Mihawk hasn't played any role as important as his peers but you can't deny that Oda planned Mihawk to be someone really significant. So his fans have the right to hype him up or put their faith that he'd be stronger than a High End tier at their own field in my opinion.
Truth to be told I voted Mihawk's CoO more advanced too. But I do admit that Kata is better at it for now, because we simply haven't seen Mihawk do anything. Will take my "L" if it turns out differently than what I thought.
I agree with you, as I said that Kata has the best CoO portrayal in the series.
But that being said, we already saw most if not all of Kata's arsenal. While Mihawk is still a big mystery, even more than Big Mom, Kaido and what not since his prowess is not at all potrayed despite being introduced more than 20 years ago.
And since then, his portrayal is nothing but grandiose. One of the three known World Strongest title holders. "Equal to Shanks". Presumbly strongest Warlord. And most importantly Zoro's end goal.
I included the Shichibukai thing because it's one of the most important factor in the story. I can even go so far as calling it one of the main triggers of the story. This system is what makes One Piece as long as it is. Yes it sounds farfetched but stay with me.
As we all know, Oda first intended to end One Piece in 5 years with Luffy goes out to the sea and then goes on challenging the Emperors. This is a fact despite it being scrapped. Why? Because with Mihawk he introduced the Warlord System. Out of the 7 og Warlords, 3 of them are main villains for 3 different Saga (Crocodile, Moria, Dofflamingo). One of them is a great ally (Hancock). One of them is currently a crew member (Jinbei). One of them is the savior of the crew and plot moving device (Kuma), yes you heard me right.
And among those important people, Oda chose Mihawk to represent this concept. Yes so far, Mihawk hasn't played any role as important as his peers but you can't deny that Oda planned Mihawk to be someone really significant. So his fans have the right to hype him up or put their faith that he'd be stronger than a High End tier at their own field in my opinion.
Truth to be told I voted Mihawk's CoO more advanced too. But I do admit that Kata is better at it for now, because we simply haven't seen Mihawk do anything. Will take my "L" if it turns out differently than what I thought.
But that being said, we already saw most if not all of Kata's arsenal. While Mihawk is still a big mystery, even more than Big Mom, Kaido and what not since his prowess is not at all potrayed despite being introduced more than 20 years ago.
And since then, his portrayal is nothing but grandiose. One of the three known World Strongest title holders. "Equal to Shanks". Presumbly strongest Warlord. And most importantly Zoro's end goal.
I included the Shichibukai thing because it's one of the most important factor in the story. I can even go so far as calling it one of the main triggers of the story. This system is what makes One Piece as long as it is. Yes it sounds farfetched but stay with me.
As we all know, Oda first intended to end One Piece in 5 years with Luffy goes out to the sea and then goes on challenging the Emperors. This is a fact despite it being scrapped. Why? Because with Mihawk he introduced the Warlord System. Out of the 7 og Warlords, 3 of them are main villains for 3 different Saga (Crocodile, Moria, Dofflamingo). One of them is a great ally (Hancock). One of them is currently a crew member (Jinbei). One of them is the savior of the crew and plot moving device (Kuma), yes you heard me right.
And among those important people, Oda chose Mihawk to represent this concept. Yes so far, Mihawk hasn't played any role as important as his peers but you can't deny that Oda planned Mihawk to be someone really significant. So his fans have the right to hype him up or put their faith that he'd be stronger than a High End tier at their own field in my opinion.
Truth to be told I voted Mihawk's CoO more advanced too. But I do admit that Kata is better at it for now, because we simply haven't seen Mihawk do anything. Will take my "L" if it turns out differently than what I thought.
Not that I agree with it, but I can see your reasoning.
Thing is, There just so many more interesting things happening, that I don't really care that much about Mihawk.
To me, he is just Zoro's last opponent before he becomes WSS.
It's cool, but not really that appealing to me.
Greatest Swordsman + Hawk-Eyes Epithet + Clairvoyant Initial Epithet + Focus on his CoO during his Fight against Luffy + Non-DF User + Rival of Shanks who "Fully Mastered" Haki. Do the Math, it's obvious that Mihawk & Shanks are Greatest in Haki
Katakuri's Advanced CoO isn't that impressive for one simple reason, because he got defeated by someone who literally just learned it.
That means Katakuri doesn't stand out among Advanced CoO Users
Katakuri's Advanced CoO isn't that impressive for one simple reason, because he got defeated by someone who literally just learned it.
That means Katakuri doesn't stand out among Advanced CoO Users