Speculations Why a WG conflict could be sooner rather than later.
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again lmao how am i coping what poor reading comprehension am i doing if vivi gets captured and luffy with the correct information says lets go save her?
Vivi captured ? She simply won't be, and even if she gets captured news are not going to reach Luffy any time soon.
What you are saying about power grab if IMU secret is exposed . People will be mad and turn against him and gorosei buddies.
Power grab for Blackbeard, Akainu , Monkey d dragon .
But blackbeard aim for one piece at first thing to do .
Then it power grab for monkey d dragon or akainu if gorosei and IMU are fallen .
Like real history , revolutionary overthrow king and queen , then new tyrant leader happen like Leinn , Stalin, napoleon. 20th century is bloodiest one in history due military dictatorship.
Sabo will save vivi I believe it.
Power grab for Blackbeard, Akainu , Monkey d dragon .
But blackbeard aim for one piece at first thing to do .
Then it power grab for monkey d dragon or akainu if gorosei and IMU are fallen .
Like real history , revolutionary overthrow king and queen , then new tyrant leader happen like Leinn , Stalin, napoleon. 20th century is bloodiest one in history due military dictatorship.
Sabo will save vivi I believe it.
I like this, in a way in elbaf the gorosei bar imu could fall maybe if vivi is not captured she ends up on elbaf and like you said a big conflict happens there. All 5 gorosei could fall trying to capture vivi this could pave the way for adult seraphims to replace them as the worlds strongest beings along with imu.(saturn getting them in egghead could be the start to this) I personally think that if judge could make clones into adults in 5 years vegapunk should have been able to make the aging process faster leading for them to be adults...zoro defeats nasujuro, then mihawk becoming wss and then defeats s hawk a stronger mihawk in no way downplaying mihawks original title as the only thing stronger than him is a clone with buffs
Luffy defeats Saturn in Egghead leaving only 4 gorosei
Elbaf:
Sabo -> Meets up with Luffy to complete Cobras final wish
Gorosei -> Imu sends them to Elbaf thinking Vivi would attempt to reunite with the straw hats now that she’s in danger and they take the holy knights.
Holy Knights -> Holy Knights accompany the gorosei and Luffy fights Figarland to give us God Valley Lore which will connect to Shanks vs Blackbeard
Burned Man -> Introduces himself part way through the arc to give Luffy a hint on the meaning of the Will of D and a power up connected to it.
Luffy ends the arc finding out about Shanks and Blackbeard.
Lodestar:
Blackbeard sets a trap for Luffy expecting to steal the final Poneglyph and then make his way to Raftel
Blackbeard pirates fight
Raftel: Flashback arc while Robin reads the Rio Poneglyph,
Mariejoa: Final War vs Utopia and Imu
yes vivi captured and what the news always reaches luffy why wouldn't it after egghead if it happens then???again i am not saying that wg conflict won't happen just the order of things. I also said in a post (due to sir yasheen) in this thread what if the gorosei fall and the seraphim (the angels that surround god) replace them as adults which could happen... that wouldn't mess up the final conflict just replace the gorosei with the strongest beings per vegapunk.
Only issue I have with this is Fishman Island. Noah and Shirahoshi are suppsoed to be used to assumedly rescue the entirety of the island from destruction. The only real reason it needs to be destoryed is ideally based on the idea of destroying Mariejois, as a means to migrate everyone to the surface
The bigger issue lies in everyone knowing Shirahoshi's purpose, or Pluton/Uranus'. IF thats the case, and all are central to the WGs demise, then it stands reason to assume that these cant happen until we know their true purpose at Laugh tale.
Twice Oda has stalled the ancient weapons purpose. Once at FI, another at Wano, both due to a prophecied event (Noah and the "Dawn"/Opening Wano's Borders). This is reason #1 for me why I cant see the WG going down earlier. Not due to a powerscale, but due possible endgame logic
The bigger issue lies in everyone knowing Shirahoshi's purpose, or Pluton/Uranus'. IF thats the case, and all are central to the WGs demise, then it stands reason to assume that these cant happen until we know their true purpose at Laugh tale.
Twice Oda has stalled the ancient weapons purpose. Once at FI, another at Wano, both due to a prophecied event (Noah and the "Dawn"/Opening Wano's Borders). This is reason #1 for me why I cant see the WG going down earlier. Not due to a powerscale, but due possible endgame logic
Cross Guild is the final fight imo. Utopias mission is to gain ultimate military power.
Give crocodile Pluton and they’re already basically there.
Imo Zoro won’t become WSS till after the Final War. Same with Luffy and Pirate King. Buggy will throw a wrench in there and take the One piece first which is going to just increase Utopias military might.
This will lead Imu to jump ship and stage a takeover where Utopia takes over the World Government, Buggy becomes the king of the world and Imu maintains his power by controlling Buggy.
Ultimately ending with the straw hats looking like the heroes who saved the world from the evil conquerors and not as anarchists trying to take down the world government.
Give crocodile Pluton and they’re already basically there.
Imo Zoro won’t become WSS till after the Final War. Same with Luffy and Pirate King. Buggy will throw a wrench in there and take the One piece first which is going to just increase Utopias military might.
This will lead Imu to jump ship and stage a takeover where Utopia takes over the World Government, Buggy becomes the king of the world and Imu maintains his power by controlling Buggy.
Ultimately ending with the straw hats looking like the heroes who saved the world from the evil conquerors and not as anarchists trying to take down the world government.
Makes sense i have been looking at this from a different perspective after yasheen post tbh i had not even thought about the route of the gorosei themselves falling and imu being okay until posted it. How do you feel about the gorosei being replace by the seraphim, gods angels that protect and serve him anyway ??? Saturn could pave the way for this in his defeat by sending them to him, and with imu cold personality he probably would not even care if the gorosei got beat trying to get to vivi as long as he got her?
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He actually made me laugh when he said i was talking about what ifs.... the prefix literally says speculation
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hmm do you think mihawk well i guess more so crocodile would bend the knee to imu ???
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He actually made me laugh when he said i was talking about what ifs.... the prefix literally says speculation [automerge]1686858632[/automerge]
hmm do you think mihawk well i guess more so crocodile would bend the knee to imu ???
Makes sense i have been looking at this from a different perspective after yasheen post tbh i had not even thought about the route of the gorosei themselves falling and imu being okay until posted it. How do you feel about the gorosei being replace by the seraphim, gods angels that protect and serve him anyway ??? Saturn could pave the way for this in his defeat by sending them to him, and with imu cold personality he probably would not even care if the gorosei got beat trying to get to vivi as long as he got her?
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He actually made me laugh when he said i was talking about what ifs.... the prefix literally says speculation
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hmm do you think mihawk well i guess more so crocodile would bend the knee to imu ???
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He actually made me laugh when he said i was talking about what ifs.... the prefix literally says speculation [automerge]1686858632[/automerge]
hmm do you think mihawk well i guess more so crocodile would bend the knee to imu ???
i think vivi will be the trigger to luffy beating imu , its just that it will happen alongside his fleet and the revolutionary
luffy isnt the type of guy who cares abt the past , he wont get the onepiece , read the history and then get angry on what imu did to joyboy
its simply cause he doesnt care abt them
everything will be automatic on luffy's behalf , his allies will be the revolutionary army and grand fleet
just see them as how kidd was in onigashima , co-incidentally when kidd went out to take down kaido , on the same day we had the alliance raiding onigashima
and thus kidd joined luffy and the others
this ' great war ' has alrdy begun
wano was just the starting , in a war there are many different types of events
wano is just 1 event in that war , then we will have egghead too and the others
its basically a battle royale of different organisations and the winner will be the king of the sea
the ' final war ' the government feared has alrdy began .
imo we will get little pieces of the information about the void century through the journey of strawhats
D has alrdy been revealed by imu ,
we alrdy know where all the ancient weapons are
slowly and slowly we will get all the lore
and then finally all the information will be revealed when they reach laughtale as a conclusion
which will be after luffy has alrdy beaten imu and the world government has been overthrown
we might even get cross guild as the final group the strawhats have to defeat
buggy is a big key to the knowledge that cg wont go down as oda will always keep buggy relevant
luffy isnt the type of guy who cares abt the past , he wont get the onepiece , read the history and then get angry on what imu did to joyboy
its simply cause he doesnt care abt them
everything will be automatic on luffy's behalf , his allies will be the revolutionary army and grand fleet
just see them as how kidd was in onigashima , co-incidentally when kidd went out to take down kaido , on the same day we had the alliance raiding onigashima
and thus kidd joined luffy and the others
this ' great war ' has alrdy begun
wano was just the starting , in a war there are many different types of events
wano is just 1 event in that war , then we will have egghead too and the others
its basically a battle royale of different organisations and the winner will be the king of the sea
the ' final war ' the government feared has alrdy began .
imo we will get little pieces of the information about the void century through the journey of strawhats
D has alrdy been revealed by imu ,
we alrdy know where all the ancient weapons are
slowly and slowly we will get all the lore
and then finally all the information will be revealed when they reach laughtale as a conclusion
which will be after luffy has alrdy beaten imu and the world government has been overthrown
we might even get cross guild as the final group the strawhats have to defeat
buggy is a big key to the knowledge that cg wont go down as oda will always keep buggy relevant
I like the idea that Mihawk is a descendent from Imus family line. As a joke I said in the spoiler chat the 3 members of cross guild are going to be somehow related to the 3 big players in the Void Century:
Joyboy -> Buggy
Imu -> Mihawk
Lily -> Crocodile
But honestly well have to wait until Croc and Mihawks are to get anything.
Joyboy -> Buggy
Imu -> Mihawk
Lily -> Crocodile
But honestly well have to wait until Croc and Mihawks are to get anything.
Makes sense i have been looking at this from a different perspective after yasheen post tbh i had not even thought about the route of the gorosei themselves falling and imu being okay until posted it. How do you feel about the gorosei being replace by the seraphim, gods angels that protect and serve him anyway ??? Saturn could pave the way for this in his defeat by sending them to him, and with imu cold personality he probably would not even care if the gorosei got beat trying to get to vivi as long as he got her?
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He actually made me laugh when he said i was talking about what ifs.... the prefix literally says speculation
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hmm do you think mihawk well i guess more so crocodile would bend the knee to imu ???
[automerge]1686858465[/automerge]
He actually made me laugh when he said i was talking about what ifs.... the prefix literally says speculation [automerge]1686858632[/automerge]
hmm do you think mihawk well i guess more so crocodile would bend the knee to imu ???
lmao good call tbh
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Maybe he overrides VP and stays alive just long enough for them to get away, there has been talk about the Vp weapon being used on egg head not sure how attached saturn is to imu what if imu launches the weapon with saturn on the island, and its a sacrifice moment so to speak where. Saturn does not care about dying as long as imu gets the seraphim.
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Maybe he overrides VP and stays alive just long enough for them to get away, there has been talk about the Vp weapon being used on egg head not sure how attached saturn is to imu what if imu launches the weapon with saturn on the island, and its a sacrifice moment so to speak where. Saturn does not care about dying as long as imu gets the seraphim.
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i think vivi will be the trigger to luffy beating imu , its just that it will happen alongside his fleet and the revolutionary
luffy isnt the type of guy who cares abt the past , he wont get the onepiece , read the history and then get angry on what imu did to joyboy
its simply cause he doesnt care abt them
everything will be automatic on luffy's behalf , his allies will be the revolutionary army and grand fleet
just see them as how kidd was in onigashima , co-incidentally when kidd went out to take down kaido , on the same day we had the alliance raiding onigashima
and thus kidd joined luffy and the others
this ' great war ' has alrdy begun
wano was just the starting , in a war there are many different types of events
wano is just 1 event in that war , then we will have egghead too and the others
its basically a battle royale of different organisations and the winner will be the king of the sea
the ' final war ' the government feared has alrdy began .
imo we will get little pieces of the information about the void century through the journey of strawhats
D has alrdy been revealed by imu ,
we alrdy know where all the ancient weapons are
slowly and slowly we will get all the lore
and then finally all the information will be revealed when they reach laughtale as a conclusion
which will be after luffy has alrdy beaten imu and the world government has been overthrown
we might even get cross guild as the final group the strawhats have to defeat
buggy is a big key to the knowledge that cg wont go down as oda will always keep buggy relevant
luffy isnt the type of guy who cares abt the past , he wont get the onepiece , read the history and then get angry on what imu did to joyboy
its simply cause he doesnt care abt them
everything will be automatic on luffy's behalf , his allies will be the revolutionary army and grand fleet
just see them as how kidd was in onigashima , co-incidentally when kidd went out to take down kaido , on the same day we had the alliance raiding onigashima
and thus kidd joined luffy and the others
this ' great war ' has alrdy begun
wano was just the starting , in a war there are many different types of events
wano is just 1 event in that war , then we will have egghead too and the others
its basically a battle royale of different organisations and the winner will be the king of the sea
the ' final war ' the government feared has alrdy began .
imo we will get little pieces of the information about the void century through the journey of strawhats
D has alrdy been revealed by imu ,
we alrdy know where all the ancient weapons are
slowly and slowly we will get all the lore
and then finally all the information will be revealed when they reach laughtale as a conclusion
which will be after luffy has alrdy beaten imu and the world government has been overthrown
we might even get cross guild as the final group the strawhats have to defeat
buggy is a big key to the knowledge that cg wont go down as oda will always keep buggy relevant
