Character Discussion Why Akainu definitely has CoC and WILL be the final antagonist
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If even Shiki does that 1 v 2, you think Shiki's superiors; Yonko won't do it? 
Not to mention, Shiki did that 1 v 2 against Prime Garp, who is on a different level than other Admirals as well.
Not to mention, Shiki did that 1 v 2 against Prime Garp, who is on a different level than other Admirals as well.
Where is it said that Shiki solo'ed two Admirals?
Thanks captain obvious, didn't know that. Share your wisdom with us more.
When Shiki said Larines are garbage and entire Larines can't capture Roger.
If Shiki wanted, he could bring his whole fleet to fought Larines, and Sengoku and Garp, but he choose to solo them. While against Roger, he choose to use his whole fleet against him, that's the difference.
Luffy or Blackbeard too can choose to solo Larines, but the difference is, Luffy or Blackbeard will be far stronger than Shiki, and Admirals are individually weaker than Prime Garp.
When Shiki said Larines are garbage and entire Larines can't capture Roger.
If Shiki wanted, he could bring his whole fleet to fought Larines, and Sengoku and Garp, but he choose to solo them. While against Roger, he choose to use his whole fleet against him, that's the difference.
Luffy or Blackbeard too can choose to solo Larines, but the difference is, Luffy or Blackbeard will be far stronger than Shiki, and Admirals are individually weaker than Prime Garp.
You're making a lot of assumptions here.
I didn't know Shiki specifically said the 'Larines are garbage.'
The marines failing to capture Roger might've been perhaps due to the fact that he was The Pirate King.
I may be wrong about this but didn't Shiki fight at MF because he had just escaped Impel Down?
What? Since when was it over portrayed that Luffy and BB could solo the Marines? I doubt even EOS Luffy or BB can solo the entirety of the Marines.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your last point being that individually the Admirals are weaker than Prime Garp, however the issue is how much weaker are they? My guess is they aren't that much weaker.
I didn't know Shiki specifically said the 'Larines are garbage.'
The marines failing to capture Roger might've been perhaps due to the fact that he was The Pirate King.
I may be wrong about this but didn't Shiki fight at MF because he had just escaped Impel Down?
What? Since when was it over portrayed that Luffy and BB could solo the Marines? I doubt even EOS Luffy or BB can solo the entirety of the Marines.
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with your last point being that individually the Admirals are weaker than Prime Garp, however the issue is how much weaker are they? My guess is they aren't that much weaker.
Ok, it looks like you don't know what happened, this is how it happened;
Shiki uses all of his men, and fleet, he planned to defeat Roger with using superior numbers, but Roger still managed to won that fight, it says stalemate but considering Shiki was wounded after the fight, Roger wasn't, it was a win for Roger.
Then Roger becomes Pirate King, and surrendered himself to the Larines and Government.
When Roger was in Impel Down, (or wherever he was) Shiki invaded marineford island all by himself without using his army and fleet, just to prove Larines are garbage, then killed Larines, and said Roger is too strong, Larines could never capture him.
Then Sengoku + Garp vs. Shiki happened, Shiki didn't lose until half of all marineford got destroyed.
The point is;
Shiki believes he needed superior numbers against Roger, still loses.
Shiki believes he can solo entire Larines without needing his fleet, 1 v 2 against Ladmirals, but loses in the end after destroying half of marineford.
Someone who is a lot stronger than Shiki, is easily capable of what Shiki planned to do, such as Roger, or Prime WB, or Luffy and Blackbeard etc. And also, it's easier to do it, because Prime Garp > Any other Admiral too.
The guy clearly didn't know what happened with Shiki, just like you didn't know a lot of things about Ladmirals when I debunked your biased thread, stop being butthurt because I debunked your nonsense and you run away, be quiet now, the guy who made you cry is talking. 
Shiki uses all of his men, and fleet, he planned to defeat Roger with using superior numbers, but Roger still managed to won that fight, it says stalemate but considering Shiki was wounded after the fight, Roger wasn't, it was a win for Roger.
Then Roger becomes Pirate King, and surrendered himself to the Larines and Government.
When Roger was in Impel Down, (or wherever he was) Shiki invaded marineford island all by himself without using his army and fleet, just to prove Larines are garbage, then killed Larines, and said Roger is too strong, Larines could never capture him.
Then Sengoku + Garp vs. Shiki happened, Shiki didn't lose until half of all marineford got destroyed.
The point is;
Shiki believes he needed superior numbers against Roger, still loses.
Shiki believes he can solo entire Larines without needing his fleet, 1 v 2 against Ladmirals, but loses in the end after destroying half of marineford.
Someone who is a lot stronger than Shiki, is easily capable of what Shiki planned to do, such as Roger, or Prime WB, or Luffy and Blackbeard etc. And also, it's easier to do it, because Prime Garp > Any other Admiral too.
Just ignore him, he makes arguments so bad such as "Sengoku is weaker than Blackbeard because Sengoku wore bandages after the war"
i think he'll be one of the two last antagonists , but not the absolute last , Imu makes more sense for that .
i think Luffy will be angry after Teach beats Shanks , which could happen not too long from now , since Teach needs to beat someone as well to equal ( if not overshadow ) Luffy beating Kaido
still , i think the order of antagonists post Wano is :
Teach -> Akainu -> Imu
i think Luffy will be angry after Teach beats Shanks , which could happen not too long from now , since Teach needs to beat someone as well to equal ( if not overshadow ) Luffy beating Kaido
still , i think the order of antagonists post Wano is :
Teach -> Akainu -> Imu
Zoro scars(small one) Kaido with his most powerful attack
Finalbeta : Zoro = Kaido
Luffy splits the sky with Kaido just like Roger WB
Finalbeta : Luffy is not Yonko level
Splitting sky doesn't make Luffy on yonko level, but it probably makes his CoC on that level. There are many stats to be factored to process someone on yonko level, many parameters. Your mind is being too pinear here.
The main issue regarding Luffy is not even the lack of stats but continuity.
His ACoC doesn't last for a long enough time, and so his G4 mode. He can even bypass yonko level at traits but his stuff lasts too little, this is why he lost so badly on the rooftop and probably only sucked Kaido like 5 to 10% of his full HP sheet. Current Luffy is likely performing better 1v1 but it's preposterous to claim he is yonko level without compelling enough evidence at our disposal.
His ACoC doesn't last for a long enough time, and so his G4 mode. He can even bypass yonko level at traits but his stuff lasts too little, this is why he lost so badly on the rooftop and probably only sucked Kaido like 5 to 10% of his full HP sheet. Current Luffy is likely performing better 1v1 but it's preposterous to claim he is yonko level without compelling enough evidence at our disposal.
