Questions & Mysteries Why are in this very forum, admirals so overated?
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They're not overrated....Only a precious few think that Admirals are anywhere near Yonkos, the rest of us know that Yonkos are the strongest. You can go to Admiral Vs. Yonko thread and you'll see this in the polls. And that's not just this forum.... Narutoforums, Millenium forum, Arlong Park, Reddit, YouTube etc, everywhere people know that Yonkos are on a higher level.
Cause everybody in the series acknowledges that fact from big players! Yet fandom refuse to accept it to push their agenda.
Let's put aside the world strongest man title, and look for other stuff:
- WB was also called "strongest pirate", which basically include Kaido since he's a pirate.
- WB was set on a pedestal from Big Mom herself separating him with "I would have defeated Kaido, Red Hair and EVEN Whitebeard"...
- Kong tells Sengoku that many legendary pirates are still on the seas, and Sengoku replies "WB was the best of them" so even at the time of sickness, he was the best of them!
- When Vice Admiral Momonga was reported by someone that Red Hair vs Kaido is happening, he said they should focus on WB pirates cause they are the "mightiest pirate crew in the world"
- When Ace told Shanks he'll beat the strongest man to prove he's worthy... Shanks immediately said "you mean Whitebeard"
- When Mihawk sent his slash to WB, he stated he wanted to measure the distance between that man and the rest of us... and I consider Mihawk = Shanks
- When Doffy said WB took the reign for 20 years and stood before PK position not taking it by his will, proves his superiority
- When Garp said "it's too late, we have angered the KING of the seas"
- The small brief clash between Shanks and WB, Marco commented "Red hair is NOT STUPID ENOUGH to pick a fight and anger pops" meaning, he knows the superiority is with WB, and he knows Shanks is trying to get a point with WB and not fight him, yet still shows WB > a fellow Yonko even with tubes in his body
Lastly, I just wanna say that, when people bring the topic of "Yonko > Admirals" they mainly use Whitebeard (despite their claim of him old/sick weaker Yonko than others) so basically, despite the fact we have MORE panels with Big Mom thus far, despite the fact that Kaido has almost equal Panels/screentime thus far
People STILL are clinging to Whitebeard glory to advertise for other Yonko!
Why can't the "Yonko > Admiral" community use Big Mom in arguments who has been in TWO arcs?
Oh, and how about Kaido having PTSD from a crewmember on WB crew???
The "Yonko > Admirals" community keep clinging on Whitebeard glory!
When they bring their argument, they always depend on whitebeard feats, and then they bring the "old sick" when in reality even at his sickness, he would wipe the floor with the yonko, and what happened with Akainu, could be even worse for Big Meme or Kaido or Shanks!
Again, I repeat, BM and Kaido had MORE screen time, and they are in post-timeskip when Oda explained Haki better, and he showcases it more, and people STILL are hiding behind WB feats!
Let's put aside the world strongest man title, and look for other stuff:
- WB was also called "strongest pirate", which basically include Kaido since he's a pirate.
- WB was set on a pedestal from Big Mom herself separating him with "I would have defeated Kaido, Red Hair and EVEN Whitebeard"...
- Kong tells Sengoku that many legendary pirates are still on the seas, and Sengoku replies "WB was the best of them" so even at the time of sickness, he was the best of them!
- When Vice Admiral Momonga was reported by someone that Red Hair vs Kaido is happening, he said they should focus on WB pirates cause they are the "mightiest pirate crew in the world"
- When Ace told Shanks he'll beat the strongest man to prove he's worthy... Shanks immediately said "you mean Whitebeard"
- When Mihawk sent his slash to WB, he stated he wanted to measure the distance between that man and the rest of us... and I consider Mihawk = Shanks
- When Doffy said WB took the reign for 20 years and stood before PK position not taking it by his will, proves his superiority
- When Garp said "it's too late, we have angered the KING of the seas"
- The small brief clash between Shanks and WB, Marco commented "Red hair is NOT STUPID ENOUGH to pick a fight and anger pops" meaning, he knows the superiority is with WB, and he knows Shanks is trying to get a point with WB and not fight him, yet still shows WB > a fellow Yonko even with tubes in his body
Lastly, I just wanna say that, when people bring the topic of "Yonko > Admirals" they mainly use Whitebeard (despite their claim of him old/sick weaker Yonko than others) so basically, despite the fact we have MORE panels with Big Mom thus far, despite the fact that Kaido has almost equal Panels/screentime thus far
People STILL are clinging to Whitebeard glory to advertise for other Yonko!
Why can't the "Yonko > Admiral" community use Big Mom in arguments who has been in TWO arcs?
Oh, and how about Kaido having PTSD from a crewmember on WB crew???
The "Yonko > Admirals" community keep clinging on Whitebeard glory!
When they bring their argument, they always depend on whitebeard feats, and then they bring the "old sick" when in reality even at his sickness, he would wipe the floor with the yonko, and what happened with Akainu, could be even worse for Big Meme or Kaido or Shanks!
Again, I repeat, BM and Kaido had MORE screen time, and they are in post-timeskip when Oda explained Haki better, and he showcases it more, and people STILL are hiding behind WB feats!
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Couldn't have said it better. Like I stated in my original comment, a lot of the time people rely on trying to downplay WB to elevate the other Yonkou but it doesn't work because even if a reader believes that WB was weaker than the rest, no notable person in the actual story has ever said otherwise.
This includes characters that have nothing to gain from it like Akainu. A lot of people recognize that Sengoku is a hype tool for hyping up characters but Akainu too stated that WB reigned over the other Yonkou when he was taunting Ace.
It's just basic storytelling. Oda introduced WB that way because he meant it. Sometimes I don't understand why people like to pretend like there could have been any other outcome after WB watched Ace die than WB beating up the culprit, whether Akainu or anyone else, and even if only a temporary victory. It's not like Akainu would actually have killed WB right then and there and derail the plot twist with Blackbeard and subsequently kill Luffy there and then to end the story.
The era was Whitebeard even though Big Mom is still kicking around and getting run over by perverts.
This includes characters that have nothing to gain from it like Akainu. A lot of people recognize that Sengoku is a hype tool for hyping up characters but Akainu too stated that WB reigned over the other Yonkou when he was taunting Ace.
It's just basic storytelling. Oda introduced WB that way because he meant it. Sometimes I don't understand why people like to pretend like there could have been any other outcome after WB watched Ace die than WB beating up the culprit, whether Akainu or anyone else, and even if only a temporary victory. It's not like Akainu would actually have killed WB right then and there and derail the plot twist with Blackbeard and subsequently kill Luffy there and then to end the story.
The era was Whitebeard even though Big Mom is still kicking around and getting run over by perverts.
The only fight shown between yonko vs admiral has been in marineford and the loser of the old age was only able to overcome an admiral but ambushing him from behind ...
Head-on and on the ground Akainu stopped WB with one leg and they collided equally.
He attacked Aokiji head on and did nothing to him and Aokiji was about to stab him if not for Jozu.
WB attacks Kizaru head-on and does nothing to him and Kizaru stabs a ray of light in his face.
And then WB arrives and ambushes Akainu from behind taking advantage of the fact that Akainu had Marco in front of him and despite hitting him with everything, his physical strength + his top fruit paramecia + armament haki, Akainu reacts and melts his brain and skull with Burning magma and WB still alive without a piece of skull absurd ... And the most absurd thing is that in the entire war WB did not evade the attacks of the unnamed marines but coincidentally half evaded the attack of Akainu ...
And generally the yonkotards ignore the facts and more if it has to do with WB and Akainu because Akainu is the one who killed Ace, destroyed the flagship moby dick and mortally wounded the loser of the old era ...
And that many believe something does not mean that they have the truth and more when in reality they do not have it.
Head-on and on the ground Akainu stopped WB with one leg and they collided equally.
He attacked Aokiji head on and did nothing to him and Aokiji was about to stab him if not for Jozu.
WB attacks Kizaru head-on and does nothing to him and Kizaru stabs a ray of light in his face.
And then WB arrives and ambushes Akainu from behind taking advantage of the fact that Akainu had Marco in front of him and despite hitting him with everything, his physical strength + his top fruit paramecia + armament haki, Akainu reacts and melts his brain and skull with Burning magma and WB still alive without a piece of skull absurd ... And the most absurd thing is that in the entire war WB did not evade the attacks of the unnamed marines but coincidentally half evaded the attack of Akainu ...
And generally the yonkotards ignore the facts and more if it has to do with WB and Akainu because Akainu is the one who killed Ace, destroyed the flagship moby dick and mortally wounded the loser of the old era ...
And that many believe something does not mean that they have the truth and more when in reality they do not have it.
Correction... The only fight between 3 admirals and 1 old man, who can't even use his haki properly and was having heart attacks all over the place was in Marineford, and yes the 3 admirals got better of that old man..... I wonder why has Oda shown Admirals fighting only those Top Tiers who're old and well past their prime potential 🤔 and please Admirals too were using sneak attacks left and right to fight Whitebeard and his commanders.
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You have to be low IQ somehow to use an arc like MF to downplay WB because it's was the most illogical arc that played against characters like him : With nearly no haki involved, nor COA nor COO nor even a good representation of COC, and let alone any advanced version of these and you just can't say that all these high tier don't have it, and even Oda admitted it that he was an inner mess with this arc; And this directly plays in favor of the admirals whose logia are greatly diminished by REAL hakis and advanced ones, that were absent in this arc.
NONE OF THEM KNEW OF THE ABYSMALLY BAD STATE WB WAS IN WHILE MAKING THOSE STATEMENTS.
MF WB was NOT THE WSM.
ffs, the guy went into cardiac arrest the moment he had to fight for 5 minutes... thats not WSM. please, its time everyone in the fandom finally aknowledges this.
the WBP tried hard to hide this fact from the Marines. which was why they refused to let WB engage combat until the beans were already spilled.
MF WB was NOT THE WSM.
ffs, the guy went into cardiac arrest the moment he had to fight for 5 minutes... thats not WSM. please, its time everyone in the fandom finally aknowledges this.
the WBP tried hard to hide this fact from the Marines. which was why they refused to let WB engage combat until the beans were already spilled.
This plus that tbh :
You have to be low IQ somehow to use an arc like MF to downplay WB because it's was the most illogical arc that played against characters like him : With nearly no haki involved, nor COA nor COO nor even a good representation of COC, and let alone any advanced version of these and you just can't say that all these high tier don't have it, and even Oda admitted it that he was an inner mess with this arc; And this directly plays in favor of the admirals whose logia are greatly diminished by REAL hakis and advanced ones, that were absent in this arc.
You have to be low IQ somehow to use an arc like MF to downplay WB because it's was the most illogical arc that played against characters like him : With nearly no haki involved, nor COA nor COO nor even a good representation of COC, and let alone any advanced version of these and you just can't say that all these high tier don't have it, and even Oda admitted it that he was an inner mess with this arc; And this directly plays in favor of the admirals whose logia are greatly diminished by REAL hakis and advanced ones, that were absent in this arc.
