Why are some Americans insecure and whiny?

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Ballel

After 18? Sure.

But you're aware that it's now conventional to encourage intervention well before then right?
Last time I checked the procedure is giving the person hormones that halt their puberty for some years until they reach an age where they are mature enough to decide.
Then theiy either start with hormone replacement or, in case the person feels more comfortable with the body they were born with, the hormone treatment is stopped.
 
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Ballel

Fucking retard, Sally will always be a girl/woman, if she's tomboyish, cool. If she's girly, cool.

Stop trying to force idiotic bullshit. To hell with this non binary tranny, gender fluid garbage.
Can you talk to people without using Shishio level insults?
 
Unfortunate, but ultimately not as bad as giving Sally testosterone ☠️
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Brought up earlier in the discussion
social acceptance seems like a bigger factor in why people are more emboldened to come out
things like gay marriage finally being recognized in the country within the same 20 yr time frame.....


as far as minors transitioning
their parents have a bigger role in that than public schools.....
 
Last time I checked the procedure is giving the person hormones that halt their puberty for some years until they reach an age where they are mature enough to decide.
Then theiy either start with hormone replacement or, in case the person feels more comfortable with the body they were born with, the hormone treatment is stopped.
Puberty blockers lower IQ by a significant amount. Yeah, turns out when you fuck with a major development process there are serious consequences.

GnRH agonists used to block puberty include leuprorelin (Lupron) and triptorelin (Trelstar). There are multiple studies pointing to GnRHas lowering IQ and negatively impacting brain function in general.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.00044/full#B6

Gonadotropin releasing hormone agonists (GnRHas) have been found to impair memory in adults, so the study by Wojniusz et al. (2016) on the possible cognitive effects of these drugs on children treated for idiopathic central precocious puberty (CPP) represents an important contribution to research in this area . . . Recent findings that GnRHas increase depression symptoms (Macoveanu et al., 2016) and slow reaction time (Stenbæk et al., 2016) in healthy women, and reduce long-term spatial memory in sheep (Hough et al., 2017) underline the importance of the research that Wojniusz et al. (2016) have undertaken. Girls treated for CPP with triptorelin acetate were tested with the short form Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children III.​
It was found that the girls had a mean IQ of 94, as against a mean IQ of 102 for the matched control group (Wojniusz et al., 2016). These IQ estimations are presented as standardized IQ scores, which places a girl scoring 102 at the 55th percentile, and a girl scoring of 94 at the 34th percentile. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=27462292

The findings of Wojniusz et al. (2016) can be compared with those of a 2001 study in which 25 children treated for early puberty with triptorelin acetate were tested with the short form Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children (Mul et al., 2001). In this longitudinal study, children took the IQ test before treatment and again after 2 years of treatment. It was found that their IQ dropped 7 points from 100 to 93. With 25 treated participants, this 7 point drop was significant (p = 0.002). https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=11683207

Single person study of effects of puberty blockers on 12-year-old shows IQ drop of 9 points in 15 months
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5694455/

Staphorsius et al. (2015) conducted a study in a GD adolescent group under hormonal suppression to investigate the impact of pubertal suppression on executive function (EF). They compared GD adolescents under GnRHa treatment to GD adolescents undergoing physiological puberty and compared them to male and female control groups. They used the Tower of London test and found a negative impact of pubertal suppression on EF. However, they also associate this outcome with a lower IQ before GnRHa treatment.​
Additionally, a global IQ decrease (WISC-III) was reported in a longitudinal follow-up of girls with central precocious puberty (Schuerger and Witt, 1989) treated with GnRHa.​
Finally, a third study correlated verbal skill impairment to pubertal suppression in a GD group (Costa et al., 2015).​
 
Stop trying to force idiotic bullshit. To hell with this non binary tranny, gender fluid garbage.
Ikr
i get
some women do have traits that lean towards masculinity at times but that doesn't mean that's a leeway to diametrically change the fact you have XX chromosomes even if she feels like it that no how things work you don't choose your built.. .. go fuck evolution if you're that concerned about freedom of choice

if society is built upon people's desires to do what they want then fuck it a 50 yr old can identify as 8 yr old and use children washroom..

people don't realize how this way of self-acceptance is actually a way condoning self-hatred..
 
its kind of a rough patch with people trying to attach labels to what their sexuality is because its what we as society has always done so I guess that where some frustration comes from

but sexuality has always been a spectrum
some people like only people of the opposite sex
some like others of the same sex strictly
others might like a mixed bag
 
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Ballel

I wasn't sure whether I want to do this to you @Rottkins but would you take some time to educate these intolerant folks about what a reassignment therapy is like?

If you don't want to waste your time on these cretains I fully understand.
 
Puberty blockers lower IQ by a significant amount. Yeah, turns out when you fuck with a major development process there are serious consequences.

GnRH agonists used to block puberty include leuprorelin (Lupron) and triptorelin (Trelstar). There are multiple studies pointing to GnRHas lowering IQ and negatively impacting brain function in general.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2017.00044/full#B6

Gonadotropin releasing hormone agonists (GnRHas) have been found to impair memory in adults, so the study by Wojniusz et al. (2016) on the possible cognitive effects of these drugs on children treated for idiopathic central precocious puberty (CPP) represents an important contribution to research in this area . . . Recent findings that GnRHas increase depression symptoms (Macoveanu et al., 2016) and slow reaction time (Stenbæk et al., 2016) in healthy women, and reduce long-term spatial memory in sheep (Hough et al., 2017) underline the importance of the research that Wojniusz et al. (2016) have undertaken. Girls treated for CPP with triptorelin acetate were tested with the short form Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children III.​
It was found that the girls had a mean IQ of 94, as against a mean IQ of 102 for the matched control group (Wojniusz et al., 2016). These IQ estimations are presented as standardized IQ scores, which places a girl scoring 102 at the 55th percentile, and a girl scoring of 94 at the 34th percentile. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=27462292

The findings of Wojniusz et al. (2016) can be compared with those of a 2001 study in which 25 children treated for early puberty with triptorelin acetate were tested with the short form Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children (Mul et al., 2001). In this longitudinal study, children took the IQ test before treatment and again after 2 years of treatment. It was found that their IQ dropped 7 points from 100 to 93. With 25 treated participants, this 7 point drop was significant (p = 0.002). https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=11683207

Single person study of effects of puberty blockers on 12-year-old shows IQ drop of 9 points in 15 months
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5694455/

Staphorsius et al. (2015) conducted a study in a GD adolescent group under hormonal suppression to investigate the impact of pubertal suppression on executive function (EF). They compared GD adolescents under GnRHa treatment to GD adolescents undergoing physiological puberty and compared them to male and female control groups. They used the Tower of London test and found a negative impact of pubertal suppression on EF. However, they also associate this outcome with a lower IQ before GnRHa treatment.​
Additionally, a global IQ decrease (WISC-III) was reported in a longitudinal follow-up of girls with central precocious puberty (Schuerger and Witt, 1989) treated with GnRHa.​
Finally, a third study correlated verbal skill impairment to pubertal suppression in a GD group (Costa et al., 2015).​
why dont the parents and their child worry about the consequences of that procedure
dont like it, you and your children if you have any dont do it.
 
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Ballel

Some of y'all people copy stuff that others told them and have zero empathy and understanding for other people's experiences.
 
why dont the parents and their child worry about the consequences of that procedure
dont like it, you and your children if you have any dont do it.
brb getting my child a six pack and a pack of smokes :steef:

Well Lanji the original point in the discussion was me pointing out to Monkey, who claimed "conservatives" were nuts thinking public schools are trying to groom their kids or w/e, is that school is a big social influence and obviously if they're going to be educated in this direction there's going to be some wider scale changes, and it's not irrational for a parent who disagrees with such an agenda to show concern. School isn't the only influence in a child's life but a pretty big vector.
 
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