Questions & Mysteries Why are some people so hesitant to criticize One Piece?

#21
Not to get too political, but I think a large part of it is that, frankly, a sizeable chunk of One Piece’s adult male audience are emotionally unstable soyboys/manchildren who heavily overlap with hyper online progressives who will call you a Nazi if you don’t agree with all of their opinions. I’ve noticed that a lot of the more masculine-coded series like JJK have fanbases who don’t give a shit if you criticize Gege’s writing
Seems like you’re the soyboy here
 
#22
One Piece atleast now in recent years has that FOMO thing going on.....
Hey you did not watch one piece..... How can you you... etc.. And they watch and then there is a lot of fake hype/stuff on youtube and I believe majority of them are just misled. You see most don't have time to think about the series itself.
They may have even not watched it properly too. But see the hype and want to be part of it in shorts (they ain't on Reddit or forums, they don't spend time on that that's why shorts and reels is their information).
 
#23
I have a related question which is, why are so many people hesitant to just drop One Piece?

Halfway through Attack on Titan i ended up not really liking the direction the story was going so I simply stopped reading it. I can't imagine if i had kept reading it just to get annoyed about the story every month
 
#24
It’s just a typical sunk cost fallacy -

“the phenomenon whereby a person is reluctant to abandon a strategy or course of action because they have invested heavily in it, even when it is clear that abandonment would be more beneficial”

One Piece is a super long series, which means reading it naturally involves a high level of investment. People don’t like feeling that they wasted time so they’re cognitively predisposed to defending their commitment from criticism.
 
#25
I think you're misunderstanding the large majority of op fans lol

They actually like the current writing. In fact they prefer it. Go to reddit or yt or where ever and they're eating up the shakky stuff, Lolden is one of their most beloved characters(🤮), and they can't get enough of condom boy in his retarded clown form.

It's not that they aren't willing to criticize. They literally see no reason to criticize.
 

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#27
One piece is going on for 25 years.

Odds are most people who are still reading this, they are in some ways invested in it. They still find something interesting about it. And, long series like this tend to have much hard-core loyal fans as well.

Even if you are a critique but still reading it then it means something is holding you or keeping you invested.

Occasional venting or frustration also reflects people still care and invested in it.


And, one or two arc of WCI and Wano won't make a difference in long series stretching over 25 years.

Also, some minor events like Shakky thing is not something new nor it's a major issue to piss people off (unless you really are at an edge) because most people still take it as fun to read passable moment.
 
#31
Because jjk fans seem to know it's straight pigslop
And some people are fine with something they like being garbage or at least garbage in comparison to other things of that medium
One Piece however was pretty great a while ago and a lot of fans can't believe it fell off so hard compared to the days where we got great arcs like Alabasta - Skypiea - Enies Lobby - Thriller Bark back to back
So they live in delusion and block out all criticism for it so they can pretend it's still at it's peak
You obviously can't do that with a series that was always dogshit though.
JJK is peak fiction for most part. Have you read it?
 
#32
It’s really bizarre how a large chunk of the fanbase refuses to ever criticize any of Oda’s writing decisions and is extremely toxic to anyone who ever voices any criticism. I’ve never seen this before in any other fanbase, at least nowhere near this extent. Naruto fans had no problem with heavily criticizing the War Arc (which was objectively way better written than Wano btw). AoT fans had no problem with criticizing the ending (I think it’s overhated if anything). OPM fans have no problem with criticizing the constant redraws and slow release schedule. But if some random dude on Twitter so much as dares to imply that the Shakky gooner slop isn’t good writing, a horde of angry Oda angels will swarm him and lob nasty insults at him for not thinking the Shakky shit is peak fiction because something something Helen of Troy
It's reddit mentality and echo chambers.
Criticising something is hating, raising objections is bad, complaining is toxic and so on.
Basically fanboys became adult men
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JJK is peak fiction for most part. Have you read it?
Jjk is like bleach, style over substance.
An entire manga with the question on how to beat infinity got answered with "jk I cut existence off screen"
 
#34
It’s really bizarre how a large chunk of the fanbase refuses to ever criticize any of Oda’s writing decisions and is extremely toxic to anyone who ever voices any criticism. I’ve never seen this before in any other fanbase, at least nowhere near this extent. Naruto fans had no problem with heavily criticizing the War Arc (which was objectively way better written than Wano btw). AoT fans had no problem with criticizing the ending (I think it’s overhated if anything). OPM fans have no problem with criticizing the constant redraws and slow release schedule. But if some random dude on Twitter so much as dares to imply that the Shakky gooner slop isn’t good writing, a horde of angry Oda angels will swarm him and lob nasty insults at him for not thinking the Shakky shit is peak fiction because something something Helen of Troy
Fair some people are blinded and think everything he writes is like the crack of God but on the other side of the spectrum I see many people who complain just to complain.

"What Oda used Shakky as a plot device to get all the major players on God Valley!!" "How dare he!"
I agree with what Yoho said and I'd like to add this most fans just read One Piece for what it is, a series for a younger audience, and use it to have an escape/relaxing moment from a week of work or studies.

To complain just for the love of it makes no sense, most threads of this forum are from people that complain for all different reasons + a lot of troll threads made for a quick rage trap.

An is not like the whole fanbase refuse most likely they are just chilling with the content and don't what to enter in discussion with people that don't accept any type of different opinions and just like to be toxic.

Also is not like we are mangakas or know where the story is going, you can make theories or guess but you cannot complain if what you envision and want is not what the creator of the content you are watching is going towards. The story is going on for 25+ years of course during this period there have been some let downs, maybe some stuff didn't make that much sense or some arc just prolonged for way to far because Oda wanted to show much more that he anticipated because realized some stuff were poorly described. The dude is a human being.

Of course if the drawing starts to be sloppy or at the end you have an ending that objectively sucks like "friendship was the one piece all along folks" there you can say it since it's your right to state your opinion, but to complain about everything just for the love of it and try to be all toxic is an other story and it goes both ways.
 
#37
Part of the reason is that people can't just say their opinions online bc they want to be "content creators" instead of real people. So they worry that any hot takes will follow them and affect their reputation. In that sense, being a cheerleader is always the safe choice. Saying something negative invites rebuttals, and people get anxious about posting something that could attract people who love to reply with frothing rebuttals.

But I also hear lots of criticism of OP in my feeds. There's a bunch of professional haters even, who blow things out of proportion just to hate even more. And there is a ton of feminist criticism of OP, especially on Tumblr, but WG users probably don't care about that anyway or are the ones sending frothing rebuttals.

But it's the same with sports or music or celebrities. You can't go marching into the fan space and say things suck without attracting the ones who will call you a doomer, fair-weather fan, poser, whatever.

It's not against the rules to criticize something you've consumed. It's good to think about different perspectives and ways of interpreting art, and those who resist doing so likely have some part of their identity that depends on THE THING (media, band, actress, console wars, whatever) in their life being true and perfect.
 
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#38
It’s really bizarre how a large chunk of the fanbase refuses to ever criticize any of Oda’s writing decisions and is extremely toxic to anyone who ever voices any criticism. I’ve never seen this before in any other fanbase, at least nowhere near this extent. Naruto fans had no problem with heavily criticizing the War Arc (which was objectively way better written than Wano btw). AoT fans had no problem with criticizing the ending (I think it’s overhated if anything). OPM fans have no problem with criticizing the constant redraws and slow release schedule. But if some random dude on Twitter so much as dares to imply that the Shakky gooner slop isn’t good writing, a horde of angry Oda angels will swarm him and lob nasty insults at him for not thinking the Shakky shit is peak fiction because something something Helen of Troy
This is a problem bigger than OP
People lack critical thinking and are afraid to go against the mainstream. If only most people knew how deep the rabbit hole goes when it concerns the propaganda around the food people are supposed to eat instead of the garbage "scientific" literature tells them to.
People for thousands of years didnt question religion, currently they don't question bullshit science, among other things like One Piece
 
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