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Why are there no Seraphim Admirals?


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#41
They want to have their cake and eat it too, there’s no need to replicate the admirals because they already have their allegiance (for now). Only Fujitora has straight up acted against them, similarly to the Warlords abusing their status to further interests that go against what the WG wants.
“Why have even better thing when we already have good thing?”
 
#44
The Seraphim were basically meant to be the Warlord 2.0 DLC pack (obedient weapons the WG can flex) Admirals aren’t disposable pawns, they’re the actual backbone of Marine leadership. Imagine trying to explain to Kizaru that his discount clone is running around taking orders from some CP0 nerd who thinks sunglasses = authority. Total chaos. It would wreck the chain of command.
 

ZenZu

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#46
The fact that Oda couldn’t even be bothered to give us even the slightest explanation why the WG didn’t bother to clone people even stronger than Warlords whose DNA they had easy access to just goes to show how little Oda cares at this point. One Piece has a large quantity of worldbuilding, but a lot of it feels very shallow
Dude, Admirals are leaders of the Navy. They can't just have mindless clones running around of them, it's a bad look. Now you're just complaining to complain, optics matter. Using warlords as compliant slaves is one thing, using Admirals is an entirely different matter. It's out of the question, downright disrespectful.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#48
The Seraphim were basically meant to be the Warlord 2.0 DLC pack (obedient weapons the WG can flex) Admirals aren’t disposable pawns, they’re the actual backbone of Marine leadership. Imagine trying to explain to Kizaru that his discount clone is running around taking orders from some CP0 nerd who thinks sunglasses = authority. Total chaos. It would wreck the chain of command.
This should be common sense.
 
#49
Dude you seriously need to stop trying to get involved in every argument. The Admirals are just slaves to the CDs at the end of the day, there's no reason to believe the CDs think they have human rights when they treat the Admirals almost identically to how they treat their regular slaves.
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Bro Sakazuki chewed him out for what he did on Dressrosa and banned him from all Naval bases until he caught Luffy and Law. This is a dumb argument, obviously Issho isn't above punishment.
If he does something and gets away with it either they didn't see what he did or Oda just doesn't want him to get punished at that specific moment for narrative reasons.
Tesla, I don´t think you know how ¨Human rights¨ work in OP.

Human rights apply to anyone in a WG country who isn´t deemed a criminal
(For reference, a criminal is usually someone who violates the law and is a pirate in the context of the story, but there´s also entire bloodlines/races deemed criminal. Which is a whole thing). By that logic, every single admiral has human rights. This is why the government does not randomly kill/execute Garp despite not really liking him. If the CD´s disliked a warlord, they would just try burning them alive while they´re asleep or some sort of similar situation
(for clarification, yes, the celestial dragons do not really care about human rights and they violate them all the time. This doesn´t necessarily mean human rights don´t exist, as any government ever in any context violates human rights all the time). I also don´t understand how you made some comparison between admirals and slaves, since we know admirals can quit(Kuzan). That kind of goes against the point of slavery.

Also again, your argument about Fujitora getting ¨chewed out¨ is legitmately god awful, again. Your boss yelling at you is not really relevant in a conversation about if you have human rights. Stop wasting our time with arguments I don´t think you even believe make sense.
 
#51
Lmfao, they are not burning a Warlord alive just because they dislike them. What kind of planet do you have to live on to say this?? :milaugh:
Anyway I've given you enough attention for today.
I honestly don´t know why you have a problem with that statement, it´s just about the principle of it. If Jimbei went to Mariejois for a meeting, I don´t think it would be beyond Sommers or whoever to try enslaving him. Maybe it´s a powerscaling thing? I dunno, but that wasn´t really my point, the point is that warlords literally do not have ¨human rights¨, they have a deal with the government. Simple as
 
#53
I think there are but we just didn't see them yet, only problem with admirals is their logia fruits but that can be compasated with large DF stocks of WG.
I just realized that all fruits are either from Warlords or their subordinates.

S-Bear = OG fruit
S-Snake = OG fruit
S-Hawk = Croc subordinate fruit
S-Shark = Doffy subordinate fruit
 
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