General & Others Why did Blackbeard's bounty raise?
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The thing is BB wouldn't get an increase for Aokiji, since it was only 2.2 b similar to the fact that Imu wants to hide the truth about Luffy and BB, he cut the wanted posters of them for a reason.
They also want to hide the fact that Aokiji, a former Admiral joining Yonko because its not a ''fine message'' for Larines.
So Aokiji is no factor on BB's bounty, they want to hide that shit since Dressrosa.
Same Government even hide additional Impel Down escapees and lied about Moria's death,
you think they won't hide about Aokiji joining BB?
BB's bounty would've been above 3 billion since Dressrosa since they knew Aokiji joined back then, they simply hided it and kept BB at 2.2 billion for the same reason Luffy's bounty isn't higher than Law's or Kid's.
They also want to hide the fact that Aokiji, a former Admiral joining Yonko because its not a ''fine message'' for Larines.
So Aokiji is no factor on BB's bounty, they want to hide that shit since Dressrosa.
Same Government even hide additional Impel Down escapees and lied about Moria's death,
you think they won't hide about Aokiji joining BB?
BB's bounty would've been above 3 billion since Dressrosa since they knew Aokiji joined back then, they simply hided it and kept BB at 2.2 billion for the same reason Luffy's bounty isn't higher than Law's or Kid's.
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I would say, that his lower yonko bounty was just given since that number is related to the real Blackbeard.
While his present bounty shows his real threat as he is right now.
Law said that his commanders were getting bigger bounties since they were getting stronger and he proved it fighting them. The same for Teach.
Teach has gotten a stronger military force and stronger himself.
And Aokiji joining is stupid.
Otherwise Luffy's bounty should be higher than Law's and Kidd's since Jimbei joined Luffy
While his present bounty shows his real threat as he is right now.
Law said that his commanders were getting bigger bounties since they were getting stronger and he proved it fighting them. The same for Teach.
Teach has gotten a stronger military force and stronger himself.
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And Aokiji joining is stupid.
Otherwise Luffy's bounty should be higher than Law's and Kidd's since Jimbei joined Luffy
His empire is rapidly growing more powerful, via the hunt for DFs, Kuzan joining and likely other big-time pirates who have surrendered to BB.
I also think there's an element of "passive" boosting for big-time pirates where the more time they spend as powerful threats to the WG, the more their bounty will increase without them having to commit world balance-breaking acts like the Supernovas have been doing. This can explain why someone like Shanks had the lowest bounty out of the OG Yonko and why BB's first Yonko bounty was so low -- they were new to the game.
I also think there's an element of "passive" boosting for big-time pirates where the more time they spend as powerful threats to the WG, the more their bounty will increase without them having to commit world balance-breaking acts like the Supernovas have been doing. This can explain why someone like Shanks had the lowest bounty out of the OG Yonko and why BB's first Yonko bounty was so low -- they were new to the game.
There is a roughly a month or so where Oda could reveal more details of what Blackbeard did dur8jg that time that raised his bounty. Since Van Auger has a warp fruit, it makes things easier for BB to attack or raid other locations in a short time. But I also think reports of the BB pirates hunting for devil fruits has also been passively boosting BB's bounty as mentioned by Law.
You don't need to know everything, there are things happened in the past and we learned that long after.
- During Fishman Island, Jinbe didn't mention BB defeating WB pirates remnants, he only said BB conquered WB's territories, but he mentioned about Aokiji vs Red Dog, we learned that Payback War later during Zou. Even though Robin said because of Payback War BB become Yonko, then why Jinbe didn't mention that? Oda is hiding things for the plot.
- No one mentioned BB defeating Ochoku as well, we only learned that during Amazon Lily.
There could be many things that BB did during that timeline we don't know yet.
How did Shanks become Yonko 6 years ago? What did he do? There are a lot questions.
Then why Buggy has less than Mihawk's? Lmao.
Aokiji joined BB during Dressrosa,
Gorosei already knew it long before when BB had 2.2 billion.
We know right now crews are irrelevant to the bounty due to Buggy having less than Mihawk, Buggy only got 3.1 billion for his strength that superior to Mihawk. (Thats what Marines think).
Same as Kid having Killer in his crew, but equal bounty to Law's bounty. If you don't believe Law>Kid, crews don't boost their bounty.
Luffy also has three people who have bigger bounty than 1 billion, and he only has 3 billion for himself.
Yonko subordinates don't boost the Yonko bounty, Yonko boosts the underling bounties.
- During Fishman Island, Jinbe didn't mention BB defeating WB pirates remnants, he only said BB conquered WB's territories, but he mentioned about Aokiji vs Red Dog, we learned that Payback War later during Zou. Even though Robin said because of Payback War BB become Yonko, then why Jinbe didn't mention that? Oda is hiding things for the plot.
- No one mentioned BB defeating Ochoku as well, we only learned that during Amazon Lily.
There could be many things that BB did during that timeline we don't know yet.
How did Shanks become Yonko 6 years ago? What did he do? There are a lot questions.
Then why Buggy has less than Mihawk's? Lmao.
Aokiji joined BB during Dressrosa,
Gorosei already knew it long before when BB had 2.2 billion.
We know right now crews are irrelevant to the bounty due to Buggy having less than Mihawk, Buggy only got 3.1 billion for his strength that superior to Mihawk. (Thats what Marines think).
Same as Kid having Killer in his crew, but equal bounty to Law's bounty. If you don't believe Law>Kid, crews don't boost their bounty.
Luffy also has three people who have bigger bounty than 1 billion, and he only has 3 billion for himself.
Yonko subordinates don't boost the Yonko bounty, Yonko boosts the underling bounties.
Working together with someone isn't the same as joining under them
Yes in general crew doesn't effect the captain bounty but when a new crew member has an even higher bounty than the captain it likley does. Them using that new member to scale how strong the captain really is
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Also the emperors having been gaining immense power during the 2 year timeskip but i don't lmao had a diffs bounty 2 years ago before sad and some of the tobiroppo
''working together with someone''
LOL. Try to read, because this is exactly what Gorosei said: ''Aokiji dedicated his power to assist him'' , no one ever said the same for BB that he dedicated his power to assist Aokiji in return. There was no partnership. It was Aokiji working for BB since Dressrosa.
BB even compared Aokiji to Shiryu while talking with Burgess, if it was a simple partnership, Burgess doesn't need to trust Aokiji more like a crewmate, they made business with government before when BB was a Shichibukai, that should be natural for them, Orochi and Kaido were selling weapons to government as they didn't need to trust them, BB was telling Burgess Aokiji was already joined officially since Dressrosa.
As I said above, they will never increase his bounty for Aokiji, just like they didn't give any wanted posters for other Impel Down escapees and pretended like Moria was dead, Admiral joining Yonko is a bigger blunder than those 2, they will definitely hide that like they hide the things about Xebec.
LOL. Try to read, because this is exactly what Gorosei said: ''Aokiji dedicated his power to assist him'' , no one ever said the same for BB that he dedicated his power to assist Aokiji in return. There was no partnership. It was Aokiji working for BB since Dressrosa.
BB even compared Aokiji to Shiryu while talking with Burgess, if it was a simple partnership, Burgess doesn't need to trust Aokiji more like a crewmate, they made business with government before when BB was a Shichibukai, that should be natural for them, Orochi and Kaido were selling weapons to government as they didn't need to trust them, BB was telling Burgess Aokiji was already joined officially since Dressrosa.
As I said above, they will never increase his bounty for Aokiji, just like they didn't give any wanted posters for other Impel Down escapees and pretended like Moria was dead, Admiral joining Yonko is a bigger blunder than those 2, they will definitely hide that like they hide the things about Xebec.
Aokiji can't have a bigger bounty than BB, thats a dumb thing to say.
If Aokiji had a wanted poster, Smoker would already know about it and wouldn't even question what Aokiji was doing, it would be publicly known that Aokiji is a criminal during Punk Hazard, all the things Aokiji was doing were secret even to Smoker. And also, the government would definitely hide the things about Aokiji due to not being a ''fine message'' for the Marines. They even lied about Moria, Impel Down escapees and Xebec.
So
1- Aokiji didn't even have any bounty on his head during Punk Hazard. And when Luffy asked about Aokiji to Jinbe, Jinbe said nothing about Aokiji now being a criminal with a bounty.
2- And even if Aokiji had a bounty (very low chance) he couldn't have a bigger bounty than BB in a short time, because BB had a head start advantage over him.
Easily Debunked Albino.
If Aokiji had a wanted poster, Smoker would already know about it and wouldn't even question what Aokiji was doing, it would be publicly known that Aokiji is a criminal during Punk Hazard, all the things Aokiji was doing were secret even to Smoker. And also, the government would definitely hide the things about Aokiji due to not being a ''fine message'' for the Marines. They even lied about Moria, Impel Down escapees and Xebec.
So
1- Aokiji didn't even have any bounty on his head during Punk Hazard. And when Luffy asked about Aokiji to Jinbe, Jinbe said nothing about Aokiji now being a criminal with a bounty.
2- And even if Aokiji had a bounty (very low chance) he couldn't have a bigger bounty than BB in a short time, because BB had a head start advantage over him.
Easily Debunked Albino.
- Source is your butt.
Aokiji did nothing to earn that kind of bigger bounty in a very short time, BB did tons of things to get that bounty.
Not even mention why would government not want to hide the things about Aokiji when they hide even some fodders escaping from Impel down and Moria escaping from them. Publicly postering Aokiji and putting bounty over him is not something government would do.
We don't even know Aokiji has bounty or not, let alone bigger bounty, its possible government still hides it.
Aokiji did nothing to earn that kind of bigger bounty in a very short time, BB did tons of things to get that bounty.
Not even mention why would government not want to hide the things about Aokiji when they hide even some fodders escaping from Impel down and Moria escaping from them. Publicly postering Aokiji and putting bounty over him is not something government would do.
We don't even know Aokiji has bounty or not, let alone bigger bounty, its possible government still hides it.
He's an ex admiral that joined an emperor. None of the admirals will be given smaller bounties than teach's 2.2
Teach's biggest known accomplishment during the time was him beating marco and the remaining wbp along with whatever he did during the rocky port incident
None of which give a good idea to how strong he actually is. Him having an ex admiral like kuzan join under him helps the world government get a better grasp on his strength
Teach's biggest known accomplishment during the time was him beating marco and the remaining wbp along with whatever he did during the rocky port incident
None of which give a good idea to how strong he actually is. Him having an ex admiral like kuzan join under him helps the world government get a better grasp on his strength
BB become a Shichibukai, put Magellan into coma, created the mess about Impel Down as everyone knows (even Big mom said it) become the boss of the strongest level 6 prisoners meaning that even without Tremor DF he was stronger than even Shiryu, killed WB, become first man to have 2 DF powers, and soled Sengoku+Garp, Fleet Admiral Sengoku was wounded as he was covered in bandages. He send Tsunamis to Sabaody island while fighting them. He conquered WB's territories. He stomped WB pirates remnants which Ladmirals couldn't do. He also beat former rocks pirate Ochoku, and become boss of Hachinosu island, and attacked Revolutionary base, hunted DF users. It could be even more things that we don't know what he did.
Aokiji doing nothing and just having a bigger bounty due to his ex-title is a dumb reason.
Then BB should have close bounty to Big Mom and Kaido because he had ''Yonko title''? Lmao, do you see how dumb is your logic?
BB can't have a bigger bounty due to ''Yonko title'' but Aokiji despite doing nothing will have bigger bounty due to ''ex Admiral''?
Albino you are making it too easy to debunk.
Aokiji never declared he was a pirate until he joined BB pirates during Dressrosa, so he can't have a bigger bounty.
If you go by the titles, Revolutinary no.2 Sabo had 600 million bounty despite being revolutionary for years. Pre-Emperor Shanks had 1 billion 12 years ago when he dueled WGS Mihawk, and ''fifth Emperor'' Luffy only had 1.5 billion, Aokiji's first bounty, despite we don't know what he even did (or does he even have even any bounty or not we don't know) being bigger than 2.2 billion makes no sense.
BB had the Yonko title and that title should be superior to Admiral title, still had 2.2 billion because he was just a Yonko for 1 year only. Your reasoning for Aokiji should have bigger bounty immediately due to ''ex Admiral'' title is a very dumb reason.
Mihawk is not comparable to Aokiji because Mihawk was pirate for almost 20 years and also ''Marine Hunter'' for years. You can compare Mihawk's bounty with old pirates like that such as Shanks. BB was Yonko just 1 year before, which is why it was lower.
Aokiji doing nothing and just having a bigger bounty due to his ex-title is a dumb reason.
Then BB should have close bounty to Big Mom and Kaido because he had ''Yonko title''? Lmao, do you see how dumb is your logic?
BB can't have a bigger bounty due to ''Yonko title'' but Aokiji despite doing nothing will have bigger bounty due to ''ex Admiral''?
Albino you are making it too easy to debunk.
Aokiji never declared he was a pirate until he joined BB pirates during Dressrosa, so he can't have a bigger bounty.
If you go by the titles, Revolutinary no.2 Sabo had 600 million bounty despite being revolutionary for years. Pre-Emperor Shanks had 1 billion 12 years ago when he dueled WGS Mihawk, and ''fifth Emperor'' Luffy only had 1.5 billion, Aokiji's first bounty, despite we don't know what he even did (or does he even have even any bounty or not we don't know) being bigger than 2.2 billion makes no sense.
BB had the Yonko title and that title should be superior to Admiral title, still had 2.2 billion because he was just a Yonko for 1 year only. Your reasoning for Aokiji should have bigger bounty immediately due to ''ex Admiral'' title is a very dumb reason.
Mihawk is not comparable to Aokiji because Mihawk was pirate for almost 20 years and also ''Marine Hunter'' for years. You can compare Mihawk's bounty with old pirates like that such as Shanks. BB was Yonko just 1 year before, which is why it was lower.
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Law and Kid had bounties before BB had any bounty. Rookie Ace mentioned about Law's name to Yamato, Law was famous before BB.
-Debunked
BB started to get bounty from 0 only 2 years ago.
Kid and Law took down Big mom and Kaido, thats how they got 3 billion with the culmination of other things they did as pirates for years. Aokiji did no such a thing. They have bigger bounties than Pre-Emperor Shanks's from 12 years ago, and bigger bounty than ''fifth Emperor'' Luffy's bounties as well.
As I said your ''title reasoning'' for bigger bounty is dumb because BB had better title (Yonko>Admiral) and still had 2.2 billion because he was pirate only for 1 year. So its debunked easily.
If you find something about Aokiji like Aokiji took down someone big as Big Mom or Kaido as a pirate, then you can compare.
Title thing doesn't work for you.
-Debunked
BB started to get bounty from 0 only 2 years ago.
Kid and Law took down Big mom and Kaido, thats how they got 3 billion with the culmination of other things they did as pirates for years. Aokiji did no such a thing. They have bigger bounties than Pre-Emperor Shanks's from 12 years ago, and bigger bounty than ''fifth Emperor'' Luffy's bounties as well.
As I said your ''title reasoning'' for bigger bounty is dumb because BB had better title (Yonko>Admiral) and still had 2.2 billion because he was pirate only for 1 year. So its debunked easily.
If you find something about Aokiji like Aokiji took down someone big as Big Mom or Kaido as a pirate, then you can compare.
Title thing doesn't work for you.