Powers & Abilities Why do people ignore power counters/matchups?

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beardweird

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#121
#121
beardweird said:
Katakuri's punches seemed to hurt a little bit more, but overall they seemed close in strength (if hardness is even the same as strength here).
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One of the endless strangenesses of Oda's one can forget in argument (let alone with all the other strange twists and turns there are): of course there was Katakuri's greater hardness, and his punches seemed to be close to some base level of G4, however his strongest attacks lacked power, as was clear in his two finishers, compared to Luffy's...
 
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Jo_Ndule

#122
#122
Mr. Anderson said:
That didnt stop him from giving Luffy trouble for 11 hours. Luffy is stronger and faster than Cracker in Bounceman.

It dont seem like it takes any time at all to reform the biscuits. Cracker times his shit carefully and tried to kill Luffy when he would destroy a soldier/soldiers. Not trying to engaging him directly
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Faster? If so then he would blitz Cracker or his attacks will be faster for Cracker to repair clones/shield

Stronger? Yeah in AP not overall

If boundman was faster and stronger than Cracker, luffy would win without going Tankman and needing rain, needing Cracker to run into him

Cracker combat, attack, and reaction speed ~ Boundman attack speed
That's why Cracker could regenerate his clones quickly enough for Boundman not to get through, Cracker also pressured Luffy with Luffy dodging barely

It's not hax ability... if Luffy had better CoA and CoO, he would have beaten Cracker there alone.

If Luffy need haki improvements then he was never stronger overall
You are talking about physical strength, we are talking about overall strength!
Kata is physically weaker than g4 boundman but his haki and skills make up for him to destroy boundman.

Just accept it already, it wasnt matchup issue but that Luffy haki was inferior and his AP and Speed wasnt good enough

Boundman was exposed vs SCs, it just muscle with no other skills, easily countered
 
HA001

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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#125
#125
Admiral Lee Hung said:
She could’ve just been wrong lol, no reason to assume that just because she thought cracker was above Doffy means cracker is above Doffy.

Katakuri’s siblings thought he was invincible. We’re they correct?
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Thats propaganda though. This aint the same.
This is the same woman with the one of the best intel networks in the world apparently. And shes sending someone to get rid of a threat to her home. Narratively and thematically it doesnt make sense for her to send someone weaker than doffy to someone she knows beat him.
 
Elder Lee Hung

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
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#126
#126
HA001 said:
Thats propaganda though. This aint the same.
This is the same woman with the one of the best intel networks in the world apparently. And shes sending someone to get rid of a threat to her home. Narratively and thematically it doesnt make sense for her to send someone weaker than doffy to someone she knows beat him.
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Well, Cracker lost to Nami and Luffy lol. Luffy and Law still needed outside help to beat Doffy. So clearly she was wrong. She also thought she could safely make it into Wano, that she could trust Capone, that the Straw Hats were dead before the Tea Party, etc etc etc.

Clearly her intel network is only semi-reliable at best lol.
 
HA001

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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#127
#127
Admiral Lee Hung said:
Well, Cracker lost to Nami and Luffy lol. Luffy and Law still needed outside help to beat Doffy. So clearly she was wrong. She also thought she could safely make it into Wano, that she could trust Capone, that the Straw Hats were dead before the Tea Party, etc etc etc.

Clearly her intel network is only semi-reliable at best lol.
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Cracker was ragging g4.
Doffy was sent from pillar to post by g4.

Nami was a hard counter for crackers fruit and it still took 11 hours.
 
Elder Lee Hung

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
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#130
#130
HA001 said:
He wasnt matching g4 at all
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He did actually. For several minutes, and without even using Haki.


Then King Riku gives his speech which lasts for 5 entire pages of how Doflamingo and Luffy are currently fighting each other, and while the speech is given we see Doffy thrashing Luffy:


And this:

The only difference between what Cracker did to Luffy and what Doffy did to Luffy, is that Luffy was half dead after 10 minutes against Doffy:

But could literally eat Cracker’s weapons and armor no diff lol.
 
HA001

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
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#131
#131
Admiral Lee Hung said:
He did actually. For several minutes, and without even using Haki.


Then King Riku gives his speech which lasts for 5 entire pages of how Doflamingo and Luffy are currently fighting each other, and while the speech is given we see Doffy thrashing Luffy:


And this:

The only difference between what Cracker did to Luffy and what Doffy did to Luffy, is that Luffy was half dead after 10 minutes against Doffy:

But could literally eat Cracker’s weapons and armor no diff lol.
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Yet crackers haki and pretzel sword sliced through g4 with ease.
Fresh doffy aint beating g4.
Cracker beats g4 without nami
 
sanjikun

sanjikun

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#137
#137
HA001 said:
Yet crackers haki and pretzel sword sliced through g4 with ease.
Fresh doffy aint beating g4.
Cracker beats g4 without nami
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Do you even hear yourself? Why is a fodder like Nami a factor at all in a 1 v. 1? Doflamingo would literally murder her in a matter of seconds. Even Law couldn't keep up for more than a few minutes.

Look at Nami's reaction vs. Doflamingo



and her reaction vs. Cracker. She was legit bullying/trash talking Cracker

 
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