Powers & Abilities Why do people ignore power counters/matchups?
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Cracker is an anomaly. You high diff Cracker, but you really defeated his armor. The real Cracker is healthy while you're too worn out. It's a hypothetical situation of "bad" match-ups. Of course one aware of this could go Water Luffy, weaken his armor, and force Cracker out. Now you must overcome his Biscuit Soldier clones that will aid him.
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TBF, nami had king baum and the rest of the homies protecting her, right?
(well, and luffy)
TBF, nami had king baum and the rest of the homies protecting her, right?
(well, and luffy)
This is the reason I made this thread. Luffy is strong but he's a 1-dimensional punching machine. You throw some tricks at him, and he'll stumble and take a long, long time to win. That's why you need Law, Nami, FS, etc...
You throw tricks at Doflamingo or Law, and they have a million moves in their arsenal to counter them.
It was not just Nami, it was an entire living forest which protected Nami and Luffy from Cracker.
He cuts the trees and they are still alive, he simply struggled against their immortality.
Cracker is not that impressive imo but he's definitely not that weak not to kill Nami, lol.
And no, Doffy can't simply turn King Baum and Co into strings, they are living things after all which Awakening cannot manipulate.
No, he can't. Awakening can turn living objects into strings? Prove it.
Nobody denies that Luffy is physically very powerful but that's it.
How useful is his physical strength if he can barely connect his punches towards his opponents? It seems Luffy should have prioritized his CoA during his training to gain haki flow but I guess, he is not that smart like Zoro, lol.
Once again, haki is the most important thing in the New World.
Alongside your DF, you are absolutely powerful if your haki mastery is top notch. Since this was not the case with Bound Man, he simply could not deal jack shit against an opponent who was more versatile, it's that simple.
1.) It was one of Shanks' Commanders.
2.) Cracker almost cut Bound Man's koka enhanced arm off. I doubt he has any issues cutting Law's arm off, lol.
Btw, regarding this "Cracker could not put Nami down for 11h" - I'd suggest you to re-read your startpost and the title of this thread again: "Why do people ignore power counters/matchups?"
... You are obviously ignoring that context in which you cried about your startpost that people apparently ignore this entire crap.
The plot literally allowed Brook and Nami to humiliate Big Mom, another Yonkou.
He cuts the trees and they are still alive, he simply struggled against their immortality.
Cracker is not that impressive imo but he's definitely not that weak not to kill Nami, lol.
And no, Doffy can't simply turn King Baum and Co into strings, they are living things after all which Awakening cannot manipulate.
No, he can't. Awakening can turn living objects into strings? Prove it.
Nobody denies that Luffy is physically very powerful but that's it.
How useful is his physical strength if he can barely connect his punches towards his opponents? It seems Luffy should have prioritized his CoA during his training to gain haki flow but I guess, he is not that smart like Zoro, lol.
Once again, haki is the most important thing in the New World.
Alongside your DF, you are absolutely powerful if your haki mastery is top notch. Since this was not the case with Bound Man, he simply could not deal jack shit against an opponent who was more versatile, it's that simple.
1.) It was one of Shanks' Commanders.
2.) Cracker almost cut Bound Man's koka enhanced arm off. I doubt he has any issues cutting Law's arm off, lol.
Btw, regarding this "Cracker could not put Nami down for 11h" - I'd suggest you to re-read your startpost and the title of this thread again: "Why do people ignore power counters/matchups?"
... You are obviously ignoring that context in which you cried about your startpost that people apparently ignore this entire crap.
The plot literally allowed Brook and Nami to humiliate Big Mom, another Yonkou.
Luffy is not just "strong", he is a very skilled fighter, indeed I think Doflamingo praised his speed or agility but said he lacked power. The thing with Cracker is, it's not just enough to be better in agility and speed - which however is required to survive against the respawning majority for long - but one needs next level CoO to predict movements and so not be bothered by the warriors at all.
His DF makes him a special case, one can't ignore that. He needs only minimum strength in order to potentially overwhelm an essentially stronger and even faster opponent.
His DF makes him a special case, one can't ignore that. He needs only minimum strength in order to potentially overwhelm an essentially stronger and even faster opponent.
Then you sure can prove that it was Shanks, or not? 
Why? Only because it contradicts your headcanon about Cracker having shitty offence strength?
And you do not get praised for dealing 0 damage against the same opponent with a named attack.
Btw. Bound Man's arm wasn't cut off completely since he immediately stretched it back for recognizing the real Cracker.
Yeah... Your examples totally missed the point, bruh.
Yeah, why not? After all, Bound Man's offensive strength >> Katakuri's.
There is nothing wrong about claiming that.
Why? Only because it contradicts your headcanon about Cracker having shitty offence strength?
And you do not get praised for dealing 0 damage against the same opponent with a named attack.
Btw. Bound Man's arm wasn't cut off completely since he immediately stretched it back for recognizing the real Cracker.
Yeah... Your examples totally missed the point, bruh.
Yeah, why not? After all, Bound Man's offensive strength >> Katakuri's.
There is nothing wrong about claiming that.
Because you don't get credit for "almost" doing shit. You get credit for accomplishing shit. The only credit Cracker gets is his Haki is strong enough to go into Luffy's skin. You can compliment the hardness of Haki.
But certainly not for attacking feats. That feat led to absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of thing. Cracker's biggest offensive feat is "almost" doing something. That is trash tier offence.
You fail to understand that plot is a result of what Oda thinks of a character. If Whitebeard can kill Usopp, Oda wouldn't put Usopp in his way. Oda realizes Nami would be dead in a matter of seconds if Katakuri or Doflamingo started spamming attacks her way. Fuck, even Zoro. The problem is Oda doesn't think highly enough of Cracker's abilities to not place him in that situation.
For example, he wouldn't place Robin in this situation if Cavendish wasn't there to protect her.
But if Nami were put in a similar situation with no one to defend her for 12 hours, she'd be dead.
But certainly not for attacking feats. That feat led to absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of thing. Cracker's biggest offensive feat is "almost" doing something. That is trash tier offence.
You fail to understand that plot is a result of what Oda thinks of a character. If Whitebeard can kill Usopp, Oda wouldn't put Usopp in his way. Oda realizes Nami would be dead in a matter of seconds if Katakuri or Doflamingo started spamming attacks her way. Fuck, even Zoro. The problem is Oda doesn't think highly enough of Cracker's abilities to not place him in that situation.
For example, he wouldn't place Robin in this situation if Cavendish wasn't there to protect her.
But if Nami were put in a similar situation with no one to defend her for 12 hours, she'd be dead.
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I didn't say Cracker can't kill Nami. I said Cracker couldn't do shit to Nami for 12 hours while she's being hidden by the seducing woods.
Literally all it would take for him to fell Nami is an attack like this, which he can't even accomplish
That's what some people don't get. Cracker is a defensive dude. You can compliment his defence and the hardness of his soldiers/Haki. That's not his OVERALL level though, because his actual endurance and offence are even worse than Zoro.
He's essentially the Capone of the Sweet Commanders.
Literally all it would take for him to fell Nami is an attack like this, which he can't even accomplish
That's what some people don't get. Cracker is a defensive dude. You can compliment his defence and the hardness of his soldiers/Haki. That's not his OVERALL level though, because his actual endurance and offence are even worse than Zoro.
He's essentially the Capone of the Sweet Commanders.
I didn't say Cracker can't kill Nami. I said Cracker couldn't do shit to Nami for 12 hours while she's being hidden by the seducing woods.
Literally all it would take for him to fell Nami is an attack like this, which he can't even accomplish
That's why people don't get. Cracker is a defensive dude. You can compliment his defence and the hardness of his soldiers/Haki. That's not his OVERALL level though, because his actual endurance and offence are even worse than Zoro.
Literally all it would take for him to fell Nami is an attack like this, which he can't even accomplish
That's why people don't get. Cracker is a defensive dude. You can compliment his defence and the hardness of his soldiers/Haki. That's not his OVERALL level though, because his actual endurance and offence are even worse than Zoro.