Current Events Why do People Think The Seraphim Were Defeated?

[Cinera]

After all their immense hype and portrayal as the "Ultimate Weapons" it would be weird if they were just off screened.

These guys are the replacement for the Shichibukai. Oda used an Emperor to hype their debut.

Furthermore, Saturn who wields ultimate authority over the Seraphim just happens to be present at Egghead now, and without knowledge of the alliance.

IMO it's most likely that they simply brought the Seraphim under control after subduing York.

Vegapunk's authority outstrips York after all.


Cc: @LANJI CUCKSMOKE, @Sir Yasheen.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Because if they weren’t defeated, why wouldn’t the straw hats use it against the marine force? Oda showed the force that will be fighting the marines in the double spread; but the Seraphim weren’t included.

And subduing the Seraphim can only be done in person so unless York personally went to every battle to tell them to stand down, there’s really no way to subdue all four Seraphim who are all in different parts of egghead.

 

[JoNdule]

about 10 or 15 threads in 2 days...
Are you on copium?

Seraphims are boring, who cares if they're defeated

 

[Moegara]

If the SEraphims were defeated so easily an offscreen on top of that, that would be much worse writing than the G5 retcon.

 

[Cinera]

Because if they weren’t defeated, why wouldn’t the straw hats use it against the marine force? Oda showed the force that will be fighting the marines in the double spread; but the Seraphim weren’t included.

I didn't see Kaku in that panel.

Was Stussy there? Where all the other Vegapunks there?

IDK, maybe we shouldn't extrapolate too much in regards to off paneled scenes.

 

[Dark Admiral]

No they aren’t. Vegapunk the real one must have a fail safe or override. They might’ve just forced York to tell them to stand by too.

 

[Moegara]

Because if they weren’t defeated, why wouldn’t the straw hats use it against the marine force? Oda showed the force that will be fighting the marines in the double spread; but the Seraphim weren’t included.

And subduing the Seraphim can only be done in person so unless York personally went to every battle to tell them to stand down, there’s really no way to subdue all four Seraphim who are all in different parts of egghead.

The double spread was already overloaded with characters as it was, and I remember even some basic ones like Robin were missing. Not to mention Sentoumaru and his Pacifistas. I guess they will stay behind and await death.

 

[Cinera]

Serpahoms are boring, who cares if they're defeated

I like them and I care.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I didn't see Kaku in that panel.

Was Stussy there? Where all the other Vegapunks there?

IDK, maybe we shouldn't extrapolate too much in regards to off paneled scenes.

Lucci was the stand in for CP0
Stella was the stand in for Vegapunk
But there wasn’t a single Seraphim. Meanwhile last time we saw them they were engaged in combat with the straw hats and now Luffy Lucci and Zoro have bandages to show the fight, it’s likely the fight just ended as fights usually do.
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The double spread was already overloaded with characters as it was, and I remember even some basic ones like Robin were missing. Not to mention Sentoumaru and his Pacifistas. I guess they will stay behind and await death.

Sentomaru and the pacifistas aren’t in the egg. They’re below the dome so why would they be there?

 

[Albino 👑]

Who wants another 5 chapter+ of zoro and sanji still fighting seraphim because they can’t figure out how to beat them

If luffy, Lucci, Sanji, kaku, and especially zoro who already beat king couldn’t figure out a way to beat them then it’s beyond lame and sad imo

Plus they’re still children them getting beat doesn’t make them look bad at all because they’re going to grow a lot stronger

 

[Halyup]

Lucci was the stand in for CP0
Stella was the stand in for Vegapunk
But there wasn’t a single Seraphim. Meanwhile last time we saw them they were engaged in combat with the straw hats and now Luffy Lucci and Zoro have bandages to show the fight, it’s likely the fight just ended as fights usually do.
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Sentomaru and the pacifistas aren’t in the egg. They’re below the dome so why would they be there?

Seraphs are simply shutdown by York
Strawhats shoyld tie all of them by seastone or else Saturn can use them again

 

[Moegara]

Lucci was the stand in for CP0
Stella was the stand in for Vegapunk
But there wasn’t a single Seraphim. Meanwhile last time we saw them they were engaged in combat with the straw hats and now Luffy Lucci and Zoro have bandages to show the fight, it’s likely the fight just ended as fights usually do.
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Sentomaru and the pacifistas aren’t in the egg. They’re below the dome so why would they be there?

Because you said "Oda showed the force that will be fighting the marines in the double spread; but the Seraphim weren’t included." which implies Sentoumaru being in a different part of the island means he's not part of the force that will be fighting the marines.

The Seraphims are likely not in the picture precisely to create a sense of mystery towards what happened during the small timeskip, something that Oda already played around with before the double spread. They are most likely fine next room, with the possible exception of S-Snake.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Seraphs are simply shutdown by York
Strawhats shoyld tie all of them by seastone or else Saturn can use them again

York has to personally do that, can’t do it via snail so despite not knowing where they’re fighting she ran all around egghead to shut them down?

And they don’t know Saturns here? Why not use them

 

[Moegara]

Seraphs are simply shutdown by York
Strawhats shoyld tie all of them by seastone or else Saturn can use them again

They don't know Saturn has come so they're gonna mess that up for sure.

 

[MarineHQ]

They just forced York to command them to stop imo.

 

[WizardKing]

Its a fact that they are not defeated

 

[Cinera]

But there wasn’t a single Seraphim. Meanwhile last time we saw them they were engaged in combat with the straw hats and now Luffy Lucci and Zoro have bandages to show the fight, it’s likely the fight just ended as fights usually do.

Fair point re: the bandages.

Could be the Strawhats defeated the Seraphims. I doubt they're out for the count though. Saturn having supreme authority over them could suggest they might make a comeback under his control.

 

[WizardKing]

They don't know Saturn has come so they're gonna mess that up for sure.

They dont even know who the 5 elders are

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Fair point re: the bandages.

Could be the Strawhats defeated the Seraphims. I doubt they're out for the count though. Saturn having supreme authority over them could suggest they might make a comeback under his control.

Yeah it’s possible he may take them after Egghead, but I don’t think they’ll be in this battle for egghead.

 

[Moegara]

They dont even know who the 5 elders are

True for the core crew (except for Robin) but Vegapunk should know them personally.