Break Week Why do some people lie about Luffys state after fighting Lucci?

[Moegara]

Still Kizaru got one taped and unless Kizaru he's able to tank stronger blows from Luffy. It will stay as a massive antifeat.

Yes.

Completely absurd.
You said it himself Kizaru got one taped something we wouldn't expect from a top tier (adding it's not even some high tier move) whereas Luffy's stamina's issue exist since G4. He was already eating a lot to recover from G4 in both Katakuri or Cracker fights.
Secondly Luffy still eating when he should know what is happening (CoO) isn't needed ?

Yes, on one hand Kizaru got one taped.

On the other hand Luffy's stamina lasted less than a virgin and he only managed to land that one tap on someone who took his attention away from him constantly.


Luffy isn't eating because he isn't needed, he is eating because he's recovering.


They both have issues I wouldn't expect from a top tier. Kizaru looks better because he got up earlier, that's all.

 

[Blazing Lion]

You can chalk this off to recoil from over wanking Luffy. On the first read I didn't recognize the EL call backs but when it got pointed out I accepted it for what it was. You can't say one thing is call back and not the other, that just shows bias.
The problem with the fight is that it just like Kizaru vs Luffy it was not actually a real 1v1. Sure they attacked each other but both were gunning for different things. In terms of their missions Lucci was able to achieve his, taking control of the Seraphim by KOing Sentomaru, Luffy one the other hand could not stop this from happening.
And I don't like it that Luffy and Zoro have been hit with BM tax of not being able to use ACoC, only WSG by Luffy had it.

Is Luffy stronger than Lucci? Of course, I mean Wano Luffy was fighting Kaido toe to toe, I don't think Lucci can do that, specially since he does not have ACoC.

Then we also have Luffy using named moves and IIRC most of the attacks were surprise attacks on Lucci.

With all that being said it doesn't change the fact that Lucci accepted that he can't beat Luffy when Luffy mocked him. Funny thing though is that even with this Lucci war bot ready to recognize Luffy as a Yonko. I don't know where Lucci learned to benchmark Yonkos though.

 

[Fujishiro]

Funny thing though is that even with this Lucci war bot ready to recognize Luffy as a Yonko. .

I thought it was pretty clear Lucci was just being salty and petty lmao.

 

[Blazing Lion]

I thought it was pretty clear Lucci was just being salty and petty lmao.

He was not ready then but when he started fighting Zoro he accepted Luffy as a Yonko. Being petty and salty does not give a complete explanation. Again we don't know how Lucci is benchmarking Yonkos but nobody would expect a Yonko to run away from Kaku and Stussy if the said Yonko had as many want to say neg diff KOd Lucci.

This is not the first time that Luffys title of a Yonko is being questioned, Bonney was also finding it difficult. And I think Egghead events will cement Luffys status as a Yonko.

I am not one to downplay Luffy, I was saying for most of the time that only Shanks and Mihawk are above Luffy and Zoro. Sadly due to Luffs lackluster performance (at least what I expected post Kaido) it is making me doubt his placement and consequently Zoros too since I hold them equal.

 

[M944]

On the other hand Luffy's stamina lasted less than a virgin

That's an issue we will see again (AT least as long as Oda needs Luffy to be out of plot)

he only managed to land that one tap on someone who took his attention away from him constantly

In that exchange both were focused.
In general both of them weren't really focused on the other. Luffy went taunting Zoro during his fight

Luffy isn't eating because he isn't needed, he is eating because he's recovering

He doesn't need to eat that much to recover.
Also he could use G5 twice back to back against Kaido but can't now why ?
He used it After G4 which is extremely taxing.
Easy the recovering is plot too

They both have issues I wouldn't expect from a top tier. Kizaru looks better because he got up earlier, that's all

Which is illogical because as I said Luffy was down because of his powers not Kizaru
The drawback is also Independent of the opponent level
Moreover Luffy had several opportunities to K'O Kizaru before G5's hit his limit

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

If Luffy went G5 and walked around town for 5 minutes, he'd still look like that when he came out of it. That's it's drawback.

People are really acting like his opponents put him in that state, lmao.

Always remember. Lucci never landed and single hit, and Luffy played with that man so hard, he even took a quick nap in the middle of being attacked.

 

[trav]

Ive seen many individuals spam post

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Ngl it’s still pretty stupid that Luffy was even in that state

Misconception about PLs in OP. The perceived gap is greated than the actual gap.

Im pretty sure its just the states he goes in after exiting G5 no matter what

Does it matter?
If this is the toll he is paying for a great increase in power then it is still damage inflicted to him during the battle. It does not matter if he inflected the damage on himself by using a sketchy ability.

Because they're Zoro fans or admiral downplayers.

Which Zoro fans are not pro-Admiral? I may be one of the few. There are not that many.
There is little point to downplay Admirals as a Zoro fan since one of the Admirals is a confirmed swordsman.

Zoro vs Lucci
Luffy vs Lucci

None of it matters. Pointless encounters to keep either Luffy or Zoro occupied.
If Brook did not make ice last chapter I almost forgot he even is on egghead.
People dissect these panels so much because they either love Luffy, hate Luffy, love Zoro, hate Zoro or a combination thereof.
In the end they are still just as irrelevant as Brook being on Egghead.

 

[Herrera95]

Luffy was running and Lucci keep his mission. That's why.

 

[Bombman Gem]

Im not saying he didnt then into an old man, I am saying he was alright when Lucci was up too.

Old man is just an effect of going G5. Itd be like you saying Lucci made Luffy go chibi mode when he ran out of G3. Its just bad cope.

Do you think the character himself is lying and you know more then him if hes about to faint or no? He is white eyed and stating hes about to faint.


Luffy didnt run out of G5 he left it.

Based on context, it was Sentomaru who said he’s about to lose consciousness because killing Sentomaru was Lucci’s objective at the time. Luffy was just a hindrance to that goal.

Lucci could not have been unconscious before his defeat by Stussy because he gained control over the Seraphims. The only scenario in which Lucci could have gained control of the Seraphims is if Sentomaru was unconscious at the same time Lucci was conscious.

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Agenda is saying Luffy went all out just because of G5 (without any advanced Haki)
Whereas it's just in his midi effort
Base Luffy with all 3 advanced Haki> G5 without any advanced Hakis let's be honest

Except that G5 Luffy uses both Conqueror’s Haki and Armament Haki simultaneously. He uses ACoC to turn anything he touches into rubber, and ACoA around his body to protect himself from attacks which aren’t blunt force damage. Panel