Character Discussion Why does Old Rayleigh have such a fearsome reputation despite being irrelevant in his prime?
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not just seniority , portrayal ,
oden gets called some wb commander when sengoku and akainu talk about him
Rayleigh in the same token would have been called a legend . matter of fact garp called him that.
again you saw all these things because the focus of that flashback was oden .
kizaru also in frustration threw a fit and vented his anger on other pirates cause ray successfully held him off
2 years later BB pussied out too.
in his prime best believe he was a monster.
and dont worry
you will see another OG admiral make another old bag sweat. wouldnt change the fact said old bag rivalled the PK.
oden gets called some wb commander when sengoku and akainu talk about him
Rayleigh in the same token would have been called a legend . matter of fact garp called him that.
again you saw all these things because the focus of that flashback was oden .
kizaru also in frustration threw a fit and vented his anger on other pirates cause ray successfully held him off
2 years later BB pussied out too.
in his prime best believe he was a monster.
and dont worry
you will see another OG admiral make another old bag sweat. wouldnt change the fact said old bag rivalled the PK.
Rayleigh 's hype comes from Rogers achievements. If Roger failed to become PK then Rayleigh would be as irrelevant as it gets. Kaido didn't even consider Rayleigh worth enough to fight him. Good valley it was all abt Garp and Roger as per Oda. When oden joined Roger pirates Rayleigh was as irrelevant as buggy. When WB pirates and Roger pirates fought for 3 days Rayleigh couldn't do jack shit against mere young WB pirates while Akainu along fought much stronger version of WB pirates plus crocodile alone yet again showing how irrelevant Rayleigh actually was.
He is an empty shell only shines thanks to Rogers achievements
Nothing more nothing less. This is the story for almost all first mates. They are all hyped thanks to their captain's achievements. Rats who are good for nothing but still there in the story for plot purposes.
Just like
Kaido to king,
Wb to Marco,
Big mom to katakuri,
Luffy to zoro,
Shanks to ben Beckmann,
Blackbeard to shirew,
Captain is a tier or two above their so called first mates.
Rayleigh isn't an exception. He is somewhat fodder compared to Roger himself.
Only pure retards would think otherwise.
He is an empty shell only shines thanks to Rogers achievements
Nothing more nothing less. This is the story for almost all first mates. They are all hyped thanks to their captain's achievements. Rats who are good for nothing but still there in the story for plot purposes.
Just like
Kaido to king,
Wb to Marco,
Big mom to katakuri,
Luffy to zoro,
Shanks to ben Beckmann,
Blackbeard to shirew,
Captain is a tier or two above their so called first mates.
Rayleigh isn't an exception. He is somewhat fodder compared to Roger himself.
Only pure retards would think otherwise.
Oden wasn't true Roger pirate
That wasn't even Prime Oden lol
Oden was never below Rayleigh!
He was never gonna take away Rayleigh spot as VC
Shiryu didn't take Lafitte and Burgess ranks despite being the strongest YC there
Exactly!
Without Roger, Rayleigh has zero hype of his own
He wouldn't even be a Pirate
He's known as Roger sidekick
Oden has his own wank outside of being wB commander briefly
Oden sailed for 5 years max!
That's the only time Navy knew about him
Being hyped bY kaido, wb and Roger > being hyped by Garp only as "legend"
That wasn't even Prime Oden lol
Oden was never below Rayleigh!
He was never gonna take away Rayleigh spot as VC
Shiryu didn't take Lafitte and Burgess ranks despite being the strongest YC there
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Rayleigh 's hype comes from Rogers achievements. If Roger failed to become PK then Rayleigh would be as irrelevant as it gets. Kaido didn't even consider Rayleigh worth enough to fight him. Good valley it was all abt Garp and Roger as per Oda. When oden joined Roger pirates Rayleigh was as irrelevant as buggy. When WB pirates and Roger pirates fought for 3 days Rayleigh couldn't do jack shit against mere young WB pirates while Akainu along fought much stronger version of WB pirates plus crocodile alone yet again showing how irrelevant Rayleigh actually was.
He is an empty shell only shines thanks to Rogers achievements
Nothing more nothing less. This is the story for almost all first mates. They are all hyped thanks to their captain's achievements. Rats who are good for nothing but still there in the story for plot purposes.
Just like
Kaido to king,
Wb to Marco,
Big mom to katakuri,
Luffy to zoro,
Shanks to ben Beckmann,
Blackbeard to shirew,
Captain is a tier or two above their so called first mates.
Rayleigh isn't an exception. He is somewhat fodder compared to Roger himself.
Only pure retards would think otherwise.
He is an empty shell only shines thanks to Rogers achievements
Nothing more nothing less. This is the story for almost all first mates. They are all hyped thanks to their captain's achievements. Rats who are good for nothing but still there in the story for plot purposes.
Just like
Kaido to king,
Wb to Marco,
Big mom to katakuri,
Luffy to zoro,
Shanks to ben Beckmann,
Blackbeard to shirew,
Captain is a tier or two above their so called first mates.
Rayleigh isn't an exception. He is somewhat fodder compared to Roger himself.
Only pure retards would think otherwise.
Without Roger, Rayleigh has zero hype of his own
He wouldn't even be a Pirate
He's known as Roger sidekick
Oden has his own wank outside of being wB commander briefly
Oden sailed for 5 years max!
That's the only time Navy knew about him
Being hyped bY kaido, wb and Roger > being hyped by Garp only as "legend"
If garp wanted to piss in raylieghs mouth, theres nothing Rayleigh could do to stop him. They are not equals. Dont try to piggyback off of garps successes. Only 1 of them rivaled the pirate king.
Odens name and strength kept the entirety of the world gov away from wano because they feared the samurai strength after witnessing oden.
Where was rayliegh when wano was getting gangbanged? Where was he when ace got magma creampied? Where was he when portgas D. Rouge had to clench her coochie to stop ace from being born so the marines wouldn't kill them.
Rayleigh is a certified ho.
Odens name and strength kept the entirety of the world gov away from wano because they feared the samurai strength after witnessing oden.
Where was rayliegh when wano was getting gangbanged? Where was he when ace got magma creampied? Where was he when portgas D. Rouge had to clench her coochie to stop ace from being born so the marines wouldn't kill them.
Rayleigh is a certified ho.
VC of the Pirate King (who has a bounty of 5.5 billion) is relaxedly living his life right next to Marineford/Mariejoa. They are aware he is there and they know that this person knows the full True History of the world. Yet when it comes to capturing him, Garp was like "You want the Navy to fight Two Legends at the same time?"
Luffy goes to Wano, the land where CoA mastery is common. There an old Legendary warrior in his prime sees Luffy accidentally do Internal Destruction and he says it's at a level beyond me. This person can use it casually.
At Old Age, he saves Strawhats from a Marine Admiral and what does the Admiral do? Beat this guy or capture him? Nope, vent his frustation on fodders.
At Old Age, he shows up infront of BB who travelled entire Grand Line to take Boa's fruit and had her by her neck choking and tells him to Sit the fuck down and be Humble, and what does BB do? He listens like a little kid because this person's reputation is so good.
Luffy can K/O 50,000 People with CoC?
Oda: Shanks or Rayleigh can K/O 100,000.
Not Shanks alone.
Jinbe to Big Mom: "Mere Yonko"
Jinbe to Rayleigh: "I'm astonished to meet the Dark King in person"
CoC User? Yes.
Haki Master? Yes.
CoA Haki? Has complete Mastery.
"B-bUt OdA DiDn'T HyPe HiM iN OdEn'S fLaShBaCk sO hE iS iRreLeVaNt"
Luffy goes to Wano, the land where CoA mastery is common. There an old Legendary warrior in his prime sees Luffy accidentally do Internal Destruction and he says it's at a level beyond me. This person can use it casually.
At Old Age, he saves Strawhats from a Marine Admiral and what does the Admiral do? Beat this guy or capture him? Nope, vent his frustation on fodders.
At Old Age, he shows up infront of BB who travelled entire Grand Line to take Boa's fruit and had her by her neck choking and tells him to Sit the fuck down and be Humble, and what does BB do? He listens like a little kid because this person's reputation is so good.
Luffy can K/O 50,000 People with CoC?
Oda: Shanks or Rayleigh can K/O 100,000.
Not Shanks alone.
Jinbe to Big Mom: "Mere Yonko"
Jinbe to Rayleigh: "I'm astonished to meet the Dark King in person"
CoC User? Yes.
Haki Master? Yes.
CoA Haki? Has complete Mastery.
"B-bUt OdA DiDn'T HyPe HiM iN OdEn'S fLaShBaCk sO hE iS iRreLeVaNt"
Ray downplayers all happen to be Zoro downplayers. zero subtility 
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VC of the Pirate King (who has a bounty of 5.5 billion) is relaxedly living his life right next to Marineford/Mariejoa. They are aware he is there and they know that this person knows the full True History of the world. Yet when it comes to capturing him, Garp was like "You want the Navy to fight Two Legends at the same time?"
Luffy goes to Wano, the land where CoA mastery is common. There an old Legendary warrior in his prime sees Luffy accidentally do Internal Destruction and he says it's at a level beyond me. This person can use it casually.
At Old Age, he saves Strawhats from a Marine Admiral and what does the Admiral do? Beat this guy or capture him? Nope, vent his frustation on fodders.
At Old Age, he shows up infront of BB who travelled entire Grand Line to take Boa's fruit and had her by her neck choking and tells him to Sit the fuck down and be Humble, and what does BB do? He listens like a little kid because this person's reputation is so good.
Luffy can K/O 50,000 People with CoC?
Oda: Shanks or Rayleigh can K/O 100,000.
Not Shanks alone.
Jinbe to Big Mom: "Mere Yonko"
Jinbe to Rayleigh: "I'm astonished to meet the Dark King in person"
CoC User? Yes.
Haki Master? Yes.
CoA Haki? Has complete Mastery.
"B-bUt OdA DiDn'T HyPe HiM iN OdEn'S fLaShBaCk sO hE iS iRreLeVaNt"
Luffy goes to Wano, the land where CoA mastery is common. There an old Legendary warrior in his prime sees Luffy accidentally do Internal Destruction and he says it's at a level beyond me. This person can use it casually.
At Old Age, he saves Strawhats from a Marine Admiral and what does the Admiral do? Beat this guy or capture him? Nope, vent his frustation on fodders.
At Old Age, he shows up infront of BB who travelled entire Grand Line to take Boa's fruit and had her by her neck choking and tells him to Sit the fuck down and be Humble, and what does BB do? He listens like a little kid because this person's reputation is so good.
Luffy can K/O 50,000 People with CoC?
Oda: Shanks or Rayleigh can K/O 100,000.
Not Shanks alone.
Jinbe to Big Mom: "Mere Yonko"
Jinbe to Rayleigh: "I'm astonished to meet the Dark King in person"
CoC User? Yes.
Haki Master? Yes.
CoA Haki? Has complete Mastery.
"B-bUt OdA DiDn'T HyPe HiM iN OdEn'S fLaShBaCk sO hE iS iRreLeVaNt"
He's not relevant as powerhouse as BM, kaido & Oden were even back then
