General & Others Why has One Piece failed so miserably in the West?
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If you look at how much traction JJK gained in a time period , they surpass One piece easily.
One piece has old readers who are following it since decades and bored now.
Bro, JJK manga spoilers about Gojo’s death generated way more buzz on the Internet than G5’s anime debut did…
Yet nothing ever gonna surpass Ultra Instinct.
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One piece has old readers who are following it since decades and bored now.
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Bro, JJK manga spoilers about Gojo’s death generated way more buzz on the Internet than G5’s anime debut did…
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I needed to go to spanish forums for discussions 
I prefer lost canvas more so which is prequel. Anime quality is good and manga is goated. @Peroroncino
Yah know people give the 4kids dub a hard time and when compared to the original series yeah its pretty bad but when I was growing up 4kids one piece was the only one piece I knew I didn't know about funimation until I was around 11
4kids is what got me into one piece in the first place and don't get me started on that 4kids rap epic
4kids is what got me into one piece in the first place and don't get me started on that 4kids rap epic
I used to translate in English and I am not sure what type of spanish it is.
https://saintseiyaforos.net/ -- This is the site.
https://saintseiyaforos.net/ -- This is the site.
I don't blame the 4kids dub, 100% but it definitely didn't help. It made One Piece feel alot more childish compared to Naruto and Bleach. Another big factor and I think the more important factor. Is the first couple arcs of One Piece were not very strong. Arguably until the Bartie arc and Mihawk vs Zoro and Arlong Park, One Piece is like a 3 or 4 out of 10. And for anime watchers back then who got one episode a week that 20-30 episodes. I think alot of people in North America dropped it before then.
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Anime quality light years between naruto and one piece.
Not to mention bleach that from hueco mundo and beyond had the finest animation in all of anime for some good 4-5 years.
One piece anime SUCKS.
On top of the fights not being nearly as cool as naruto, bleach and JJK.
Luffy was a trash main character even before the chosen one asura/indra copycat stuff.
One piece doesnt have a trendy cool one line powerup to break the Internet.
RASENGAN
BANKAI
DOMAIN EXPANSION
Can you imagine anyone in OP having something as cool as that? Of course not.
No one outside of OP community gave a fk about G5 lol, meanwhile that new bankai on the final episode of bleach second final season was EVERYWHERE.
It's hard to follow such a long show with the author blueballing everyone as much as he can, its about time we see the heavyhitters doing their moves.
Not to mention bleach that from hueco mundo and beyond had the finest animation in all of anime for some good 4-5 years.
One piece anime SUCKS.
On top of the fights not being nearly as cool as naruto, bleach and JJK.
Luffy was a trash main character even before the chosen one asura/indra copycat stuff.
One piece doesnt have a trendy cool one line powerup to break the Internet.
RASENGAN
BANKAI
DOMAIN EXPANSION
Can you imagine anyone in OP having something as cool as that? Of course not.
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No one outside of OP community gave a fk about G5 lol, meanwhile that new bankai on the final episode of bleach second final season was EVERYWHERE.
It's hard to follow such a long show with the author blueballing everyone as much as he can, its about time we see the heavyhitters doing their moves.
The biggest issue with One Piece is that it's too childish for adults but too adult for children. Oda claims he writes the story for 15 year olds but I think the content is closer to middle school territory. If Oda removed all the cringe stuff like Sanji's noosebleeds, Brook asking to see panties and the constant crying and the dumb "open mouth" facial expressions then the story would be much more popular. It's hard for normal people to recommend this story to other people without feeling dirty or childish.
https://www.thegrandline.com/odakazint.htm
The other major issue is the bad character design. If Oda would draw the series with normal looking characters, such as these 2, then that would also increase the popularity. Likewise with female character design.
Masterpiece. Bleach. Same sentence. No!
Bleach is a bad version of Saint Seiya x Yu Yu Hakusho.
I think Saint Seiya is closer to the "masterpiece" tier. As a whole it's worse than Naruto but it was a foundational Shonen, 1 of the first real battle shonnens along with Hokuto no Ken, and it has some aspects that are lost in most of its derivatives like Naruto or One Piece.
I skipped all the filler and I'm at the poseidon arc. This arc isn't great but it is acceptable i.e. bleach tier. I hear it gets better at hades arc.
Check our Fuma no Fojiro. It's proto saint seiya with swords. I love Musashi/Ikki.
Stories that blue ball their readers, i.e. lots of mystery with no payoffs, tend to be the most popular like Lost (2004) and Game of Thrones. If anything this is the number 1 reason why One Piece is soo popular.
https://www.thegrandline.com/odakazint.htm
The other major issue is the bad character design. If Oda would draw the series with normal looking characters, such as these 2, then that would also increase the popularity. Likewise with female character design.
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Masterpiece. Bleach. Same sentence. No!
Bleach is a bad version of Saint Seiya x Yu Yu Hakusho.
I think Saint Seiya is closer to the "masterpiece" tier. As a whole it's worse than Naruto but it was a foundational Shonen, 1 of the first real battle shonnens along with Hokuto no Ken, and it has some aspects that are lost in most of its derivatives like Naruto or One Piece.
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I skipped all the filler and I'm at the poseidon arc. This arc isn't great but it is acceptable i.e. bleach tier. I hear it gets better at hades arc.
Check our Fuma no Fojiro. It's proto saint seiya with swords. I love Musashi/Ikki.
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Stories that blue ball their readers, i.e. lots of mystery with no payoffs, tend to be the most popular like Lost (2004) and Game of Thrones. If anything this is the number 1 reason why One Piece is soo popular.
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4kids dub played a huge roll.
Another thing is Naruto starts of crazy strong and then goes to shit. One Piece starts of meh-ok and slowly gets better but requires you to care about the characters and the world which isn't gonna happen if you aren't watching every episode(which was much harder when the series started appearing in the west). Something DBZ had going for it. You can skip 5 episodes and it wouldn't matter, you get to see cool character screaming and blowing shit up and it's just fun.
Another thing is Naruto starts of crazy strong and then goes to shit. One Piece starts of meh-ok and slowly gets better but requires you to care about the characters and the world which isn't gonna happen if you aren't watching every episode(which was much harder when the series started appearing in the west). Something DBZ had going for it. You can skip 5 episodes and it wouldn't matter, you get to see cool character screaming and blowing shit up and it's just fun.
