General & Others Why have we not seen a single character who aspires to be WSS?
- Thread starter Rosella.Fiamingo
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- Tags post #14 is a real doozy usual mihawk downplay usual zoro downplay
It happened when Ace meet Shanks I believe
I'm too lazy to check
I'm too lazy to check
his goal
Ace hated Roger because he attributed all the suffering he met in his life to Roger. For Him, Roger is the reason why he suffered so much. Therefore he wants to surpass him to erase his legacy. He wanted for people to not call him « the son of Roger » but to call Roger « the father of Ace »
-He never intended to become the PK or to find the One Piece, because for him it would have mean that he just like Roger. No, he wanted to do something different and bigger than being PK
-This what Ace said to Shanks : « The entire world is my enemy. The Shishibukai, the emperors, the celestial dragons...I will beat them all. Once my flames have burn all the summits, I will put my flag on them ».
-Shanks had a hard time to understand Ace’s personality.
-Blackbeard scared Shanks before he goes to East blue
(Rivaille’s note: BB scaring Shanks is introduce has a big feat)
-At this point of time, those scars do not throb anymore
(Rivaille’s note: as if they were linked to BB’s ambition)
-Even tho Ace projecting to attack WB was beneficial to Shanks, the latter could not help Ace directly. Because it would have start a conflict with WB
again
nothing about wanting wb title
Regardless, I think it's a pretty funny argument.
We're aware that "名刀" "Meito" can either be "Famed swords" or "Famed blades" and we're also aware that swords and other types of blades are a subset of meito.
Yet, we still choose the translation that makes less sense and assume all meito are swords...?
I think it's pretty clear that there are bladed weapons, and within this set of bladed weapons you can find {swords, lances, etc...}
Like all the confusion about "is Whitebeard a swordsman?" and etc... is gone.
But we choose the worse translation to stay confused instead ?
We're aware that "名刀" "Meito" can either be "Famed swords" or "Famed blades" and we're also aware that swords and other types of blades are a subset of meito.
Yet, we still choose the translation that makes less sense and assume all meito are swords...?
I think it's pretty clear that there are bladed weapons, and within this set of bladed weapons you can find {swords, lances, etc...}
Like all the confusion about "is Whitebeard a swordsman?" and etc... is gone.
But we choose the worse translation to stay confused instead ?
lol I dont even care about hyping up either zoro or mihawk
I just need people to be intellectually honest
the kanji for mihawk's title
is same with wb
same with kaido's
yet the other two are accepted as strongest titles
but his has to have a question mark(skill, greatest?) etc. as long as facts are provided, folks should accept when they are wrong. will act like they dont see it as per usual.
I just need people to be intellectually honest
the kanji for mihawk's title
is same with wb
same with kaido's
yet the other two are accepted as strongest titles
but his has to have a question mark(skill, greatest?) etc. as long as facts are provided, folks should accept when they are wrong. will act like they dont see it as per usual.
Don't destroy their thread just after 3 posts 
They don't want to be WSS like no one wants to be WSC or WSM, because they are beast. You ain't gonna fight against them when you know they could kill you. Logic! Only luffy, zoro, BB and Kidd are idiots but they also have enough guts.
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They don't want to be WSS like no one wants to be WSC or WSM, because they are beast. You ain't gonna fight against them when you know they could kill you. Logic! Only luffy, zoro, BB and Kidd are idiots but they also have enough guts.
I never understood this really. Power in one piece is rarely linear. The yonko are all yonko not because they can win all 1v1 fights but because they all have enormous territories and influence over the world and massive or overwhelmingly powerful crews. Yes, in a fair 1v1 match with no distractions, Mihawk likely cleans up and beats almost everyone in the series. Can he ever really get in that position? No. Mihawk is bored and listless because he has no challenge, Shanks refuses to duel, and anyone who could challenge him doesn't want to fight honorably. It's a lonely life because his goal and status are so singular.
Zoro striving for this is more of a personal journey than a strict power increase arc. You can see this when he begs mihawk to train him. His goal isn't "beat mihawk" it's "become the world's strongest swordsman". Beating mihawk is something that has to happen but his goal isn't limited to moving up rankings. Even after he beats mihawk he may not be satisfied. Zoro's journey is, like he says, the path of the asura. He embraces the material world and basic temptations like violence and drunkenness but does so for a higher purpose, his captain, who is essentially a bodhisattva and already being compared by hyogoro to a myo-o. Zoros dream is to be the best, for his captain. Without Luffy Zoro would be murdering his way across the ocean and be a huge menace himself, and the WSS title is meaningless without someone or something to defend
Zoro striving for this is more of a personal journey than a strict power increase arc. You can see this when he begs mihawk to train him. His goal isn't "beat mihawk" it's "become the world's strongest swordsman". Beating mihawk is something that has to happen but his goal isn't limited to moving up rankings. Even after he beats mihawk he may not be satisfied. Zoro's journey is, like he says, the path of the asura. He embraces the material world and basic temptations like violence and drunkenness but does so for a higher purpose, his captain, who is essentially a bodhisattva and already being compared by hyogoro to a myo-o. Zoros dream is to be the best, for his captain. Without Luffy Zoro would be murdering his way across the ocean and be a huge menace himself, and the WSS title is meaningless without someone or something to defend
