Why is Enne Zahard ranked so high?

[MonsterKaido]

--Enne zahard is ranked 7th in rankings above even most Family heads like Ha yurin.

--She does not lead any organization or family like FH do. Adori is second in command of Zahard's army so its understandable why she is ranked so high.

--Simply being a zahard princess should not give her such high rank and no other first generation direct descendants are ranked above FH themselves.

Thoughts?


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[NAMELESS]

--Enne zahard is ranked 7th in rankings above even most Family heads like Ha yurin.

--She does not lead any organization or family like FH do. Adori is second in command of Zahard's army so its understandable why she is ranked so high.

--Simply being a zahard princess should not give her such high rank and no other first generation direct descendants are ranked above FH themselves.

Thoughts?


@Shadowlord123 @Greenbeard @NAMELESS @Dream @Welkin @Cinera @Worst @Cadis Etrama Di Urek @Tai long @Minatoze Narutomaki @Ha Yuri Zahard @Flower @Tai long @Haoshoku @Marimo_420 etc

The Women is probably a genius.

 

[Tai long]

where can you guys see the rankings

 

[Medeia]

Blood of 2 FH + Zahard might just be that dangerous even if towerborne, who knows really. Even her ranking could get retconed.

 

[MonsterKaido]

where can you guys see the rankings

https://towerofgod.fandom.com/wiki/Ranker

Scroll down a bit.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

and her feat wasn't that good according to story, Garam went to stop her with some other random princess I think, that's like waaaayyyy too low of an opponent for FHs to be stopped by,
or wait....was it Zahard who directly interfered and stopped Enne ?

 

[MonsterKaido]

and her feat wasn't that good according to story, Garam went to stop her with some other random princess I think, that's like waaaayyyy too low of an opponent for FHs to be stopped by,
or wait....was it Zahard who directly interfered and stopped Enne ?

Zahard had to interfere at the end.

 

[Shadowlord123]

SIU actually answered this question. It's a mix of her impressive feats and the Ranking Administration having little to no idea of FH's strength.

This is also why using ranks to attempt to scale Tower-born with FHs or between FHs themselves is meaningless.

Zahard had to interfere at the end.

It's a rumor he interfered. Though a pretty likely one if you ask me.

 

[Reborn]

--Enne zahard is ranked 7th in rankings above even most Family heads like Ha yurin.

--She does not lead any organization or family like FH do. Adori is second in command of Zahard's army so its understandable why she is ranked so high.

--Simply being a zahard princess should not give her such high rank and no other first generation direct descendants are ranked above FH themselves.

Thoughts?


@Shadowlord123 @Greenbeard @NAMELESS @Dream @Welkin @Cinera @Worst @Cadis Etrama Di Urek @Tai long @Minatoze Narutomaki @Ha Yuri Zahard @Flower @Tai long @Haoshoku @Marimo_420 etc

She deserves it

 

[Haoshoku]

SIU actually answered this question. It's a mix of her impressive feats and the Ranking Administration having little to no idea of FH's strength.

This is also why using ranks to attempt to scale Tower-born with FHs or between FHs themselves is meaningless.



It's a rumor he interfered. Though a pretty likely one if you ask me.

Pretty much this. Their inactivity is the explanation for their lower rankings. Traumerei for example isn’t even in the rankings from what I remember and he’s been probably the most inactive out of the Family Heads. Their rankings aren’t fullly representative of their power vs characters like Adori and Enne who outrank some of them.

In Enne’s case she’s clearly very gifted like Baam due to both having the warriors as their parents to go along with her feats.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

so if Enne can control Shinworyu and biscally do everything irregulars can do (as she is pure blood desencdant of 2 irregular), it should be natural to be ranked among the FHs, I'd be disappointed if FHs are much stronger than her, but if she was as strong or stronger than some of FHs, I wouldn't mind

 

[Shadowlord123]

so if Enne can control Shinworyu and biscally do everything irregulars can do (as she is pure blood desencdant of 2 irregular)

Huh? It doesn't work like this though. Enne is not an Irregular and thus shouldn't have Shinwonryu. She's still bound by the Tower's rules, so obviously, she can't do everything they can do.

Ha Twins are also pure-blood descendants of two Irregulars, yet the implication is that they're canon fodder material to a FH. Not saying this has to be the same for Enne, but being pure blood descendant of 2 Irregulars isn't going to clearly make you as special as them.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

Huh? It doesn't work like this though. Enne is not an Irregular and thus shouldn't have Shinwonryu. She's still bound by the Tower's rules, so obviously, she can't do everything they can do.

Ha Twins are also pure-blood descendants of two Irregulars, yet the implication is that they're canon fodder material to a FH. Not saying this has to be the same for Enne, but being pure blood descendant of 2 Irregulars isn't going to clearly make you as special as them.

There is no reason for her to not be special like irregulars, just like Bam who is son of 2 irregular, so is she, and just like even though Rachel came from outside, she is nothing special, so it all has to be in the blood

 

[Shadowlord123]

There is no reason for her to not be special like irregulars, just like Bam who is son of 2 irregular, so is she, and just like even though Rachel came from outside, she is nothing special, so it all has to be in the blood

Bam is not just the son of 2 Irregulars. He's an Irregular himself. so he's fundamentally different from Enne.

And about Rachel, the implication is that she entered when Baam opened the door. Since she was alongside him at that point, she also happened to go in. You can imagine it as a human (Bam) opening the door to his house, and a rat (Rachel) entering by accident. She's an Irregular, but doesn't have the abilities, power, and potential they have. She's an anomaly among the group. An existence that shouldn't have been there.

And no, it's not just about the blood. We don't know the requisites for opening the door on your own, but looking at all the Irregulars (minus Rachel), it's clear that those who open the door are fundamentally different from the ones who don't. Call it potential, talent, or whatever, but it's a big deal. They're exempt from a good chunk of the Tower's rules. Can learn abilities that Tower residents can't, such as Shinwonryu. They're clearly different and have more privileges than Tower residents.

 

[Minatoze Narutomaki]

Bam is not just the son of 2 Irregulars. He's an Irregular himself. so he's fundamentally different from Enne.

And about Rachel, the implication is that she entered when Baam opened the door. Since she was alongside him at that point, she also happened to go in. You can imagine it as a human (Bam) opening the door to his house, and a rat (Rachel) entering by accident. She's an Irregular, but doesn't have the abilities, power, and potential they have. She's an anomaly among the group. An existence that shouldn't have been there.

And no, it's not just about the blood. We don't know the requisites for opening the door on your own, but looking at all the Irregulars (minus Rachel), it's clear that those who open the door are fundamentally different from the ones who don't. Call it potential, talent, or whatever, but it's a big deal. They're exempt from a good chunk of the Tower's rules. Can learn abilities that Tower residents can't, such as Shinwonryu. They're clearly different and have more privileges than Tower residents.

yes they have special abilities that others don't, but how can you automatically say Enne doesn't ? as you just said its not just about entering the Tower as Rachel did so, but about the abilities they have, how can you come to the conclusion that Enne doesn't have those abilities when just like Bam she is born of 2 irregulars

 

[Shadowlord123]

yes they have special abilities that others don't, but how can you automatically say Enne doesn't ? as you just said its not just about entering the Tower as Rachel did so, but about the abilities they have, how can you come to the conclusion that Enne doesn't have those abilities when just like Bam she is born of 2 irregulars

Because Shinwonryu (for example) is stated to be a technique that can only be mastered by those who have opened the door, aka Irregulars. Enne is the child of 2 Irregulars, but she's not an Irregular (unlike Bam). She's not someone who opened the door on her own, therefore it's safe to assume she doesn't have it (until there's something that proves otherwise at least).

And again, the Rachel example shouldn't be used. I already explained why she's different from the other Irregulars. She's an exception who didn't open the door on her own.