All good points, but I’m inclined to believe that Rocks has more redeeming qualities than the WG would have us believe simply because he’s a D. Wherever they fall on the morality scale, most D.s have been portrayed as protagonists (or adjacent) through the series, often in direct comparison to the WG. Sure, Xebec led several major series “villains,” but they’re really only considered such because they are obstacles to the main character’s goal...when compared to the WG, they aren’t necessarily evil.
Dude!
Fisher Tiger who is a hero in our book!
He led both:
Jinbe
Arlong
Look at jinbe and look at what Arlong did to Nami!
Xebex led both, the good guy (WB) and bad guy (Kaido) and the one who started good and ended bad (Linlin)
It's NATURAL for a villain to follow another villain!
BUT it's not natural to see a good person "specially with Jinbe's pride or WB pride" to accept to follow a person they do not believe in!
Xebec leading some villains is the same as Fisher Tiger leading Arlong and KEEPING HIM IN CHECK
Xebec could have kept Linlin and Kaido in Check as well! He's a true leader afterall (leading 3 future emperors)
My guide for Xebec is coming from WB! Knowing WB mentality and how good he is, and how prideful he is, he would rather die than follow someone he does not believe in!
WB will not follow a man just because he is stronger!
If people believe that, they do not really know WB!
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Xebec had kaido who love torture, BM a tyran, shiki who is another kidd. Only WB is soft here, but maybe he was the vice captain. now imagine their captain lol! He has even a face like kenpachi of bleach
Roger had Rayleigh, shanks, oden, all "good" people.
WB is more than enough for me!
Cause Linlin character is changeable, she is moody, sometimes good, sometimes bad.
Kaido was still young, we know nothing of how he was like
Same with Others
BUT WB, we saw a flashback of his youth wanting a family! The dude character stayed consistent through all of his life!
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.....Just LOOK at him! XD
Lol
So, Ivankov, Shanks, Jinbe are evil then!
Because they all had a panel looking like that in the past hahaha
Do not judge a book by its cover
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Mangastream is pretty shitty so I'll stick with Jaimini until the Viz.
yep I agree haha
Mangastream is worst source!
But as I stated!
EVEN if it was "King of the world"
People do not understand that the WG enjoys hiding the full truth and spreading lies!
It is not the first time they would accuse their enemies of beibg the worst and wanting to rule all the world with iron fist...etc to intimidate people and wash their brain into believing he's evil as fuck
The possibility of him being a person who wanted "freedom" or wanted "liberity" from CD and Imu is fucking high as hell for me!
And simply that ideology which Roger after 12 years he DID the same! And now Luffy is doing the same, That ideology is what WG fears the most to where they brand and paint those characters as worst criminals
Dragon right now is Worst Criminal and most wanted man because of this!
WG demomizes him, and is making him look like a villain because of it!
We simply don't believe that with Dragon cause we got to know him more!
But with Xebec, we would need to know him more! And for me, because I know WB character the most! I trust WB a whole lot more than Garp or Roger with all respect!
Garp as Brago said, a walling contradiction, he says he doesn't wanna serve CD yet as vice admiral if he was ordered by Sengoku to do something he was doing it!
What the fuck is different!
As for Roger, he was no saint either as he commited bad shit as well!
Wb on the other hand, I can get behind him with closed eyes!
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Because the two most goody goody people of that era fought against him. While 4 notorious "bad pirates" served under him (captain john, shiki, kaido, bm)
Im- king of the world
Shiki - wanted to be king of the world
BM & Kaido - want to do the same
Bkackbeard - wants to do the same
Xebec- wanted to do the same
Roger - didnt want to conquer anyone or anything
Anybody that wants to rule the world is not "good" in the manga, morally. Despite Roger being called a demon or w.e, what they dont call him is evil morally. Hence why the likes of Garp and etc respected him.
And squardo thing is always overblown when it comes to Roger. That was more than likely an act of self-defense where Squardo's crew was trying to mess with them.
Could Xebec have had some secret info on the WG? More than possible. Does that mean it makes him a good guy? No.
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They protected the CD AND the slaves, not just the cd.
I love how you ignored the most prideful and good hearted of all WB in your argument
For me WB being on his side is more than enough!
WB is a free pirate! He does what he believes in!
Garp is following his duty only and the fact he does not like talking about the incident means there is more to it and the victory felt bittersweet cause they felt they defeated the good guys here and they protected the bad guys
Roger ended up following the same path as Xebec by looking into Taboo subjects!
So, Roger was in the dark about the truth at that time and Xebec was simply the wake up call for Roger to look into this stuff!
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