General & Others Why is Mihawk getting wank based on Xebec? Mihawk wasn’t WGS when Xebec was alive.

[ShishioIsBack]

And yet, Mihawk never actually took his title, so I´m not sure how that´s relevant.

I am pretty sure there were at least 10 people around the world that were stronger than Whitebeard at the time of Marine Ford.
But it isn't some olympic title or job position that gets auto-updated
It is world wide recognition on different levels and some times title can be here-say as well. For example Kaido's Title brings the most questions as the very chapter Kaido was hyped as WSC, his losses were referenced.

Whitebeard himself questioned the idea of him being WSM and Mihawk's dialogue true distance measure implies Mihawk was doubting the idea of him being WSM.

Mihawk's title is the only one that has been emphasized again and again, he wasn't portrayed as Shanks' equal when they met, he was portrayed superior, he called him inferior and has been.

Shanks was portrayed equal to Whitebeard when they met and equal if not superior to Kaido.

 

[DonWick]

Nah he got a point

Wb was wsm and wsp while mohawk was in his prime and the wss.

Meaning wb > mohawk

And mohawk's own reaction in mf confirms this


So if you put mohawk > rocks, then wb is also > rocks. Which means Roger and garp are also > rocks.

We know that's not true. Meaning, the mohawk > rocks agenda is retarded.

Bingo

 

[soupongo]

I am pretty sure there were at least 10 people around the world that were stronger than Whitebeard at the time of Marine Ford.
But it isn't some olympic title or job position that gets auto-updated
It is world wide recognition on different levels and some times title can be here-say as well. For example Kaido's Title brings the most
.

Then logically any and all titles should be held to scrutiny, not just Whitebeard and Kaido´s, but also Mihawks. Who decides them and how? We don´t actually know.

Whitebeard himself questioned the idea of him being WSM and Mihawk's dialogue true distance measure implies Mihawk was doubting the idea of him being WSM.
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Arguable, he said he couldn´t remain the strongest *forever* he was ill, and all in all, just a mortal.

Mihawk's title is the only one that has been emphasized again and again, he wasn't portrayed as Shanks' equal when they met, he was portrayed superior, he called him inferior and has been.
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Sure, he wasn´t interested in seeing Shanks´s strength. We know he was interested in seeing Whitebeards strength though.

Shanks was portrayed equal to Whitebeard when they met and equal if not superior to Kaido.

Arguable, sky splitting doesn´t mean equality, since Luffy wasn´t equal to Kaido, and Big mom wasn´t either. It doesn´t seem like Shanks made Whitebeard yield to his demands, nor did he even fight him for several days like Roger did to WB, or BM did to Kaido.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Bingo

Bingo what?
He is speaking a load of trash

Whitebeard himself admitted he is not WSS
Mihawk said true distance between us (everyone else in the world) and that man seems very small --> That is actual translation if you go word by word, not true distance between us and that man


And Whitebeard's title and timelines around it are the most messed up. He himself was shown as equal to Whitebeard yet some magazines, DBs etc say he was WSM in Roger's time.

Mihawk has be consistently shown as stronger than Shanks and not once has Shanks been given a break.

When they met, he called Shanks one armed has been
Data book says Mihawk > Shanks
Mihawk's bounty says Mihawk > Shanks
Narrative around Mihawk and Shanks says Mihawk > Shanks

Roger and Whitebeard always have always the world "equal" and not "Whitebeard superior" associated between theme.

 

[DonWick]

Mihawk is Zoro's End Goal. Zoro wants to be the Greatest Swordsman of All Time. For him to achieve that it means Mihawk is currently the Greatest Swordsman of All Time, which means Mihawk> Xebec.

I’m pretty sure Zoro just wants to be the WGS which only requires him to defeat Mihawk. None of that has anything to do with Xebec.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Then logically any and all titles should be held to scrutiny, not just Whitebeard and Kaido´s, but also Mihawks. Who decides them and how? We don´t actually know.

They should be and Mihawk's title fights scrutiny the strongest as all encounters of Mihawk with Shanks he is shown as above Shanks
-Their Meeting
-Data Books
-Bounty
-Narrative

The black blade and Strongest Blade ever is something no other swordsman has either
The main character who is fighting to be strongest swordsman ever, an absolute strength not some restricted skill is gunning for Mihawk.

Yes we ca scrutinize Mihawk, Whitebeard and Kaido's titles but among three Mihawk is the only one iron clad with no one in-verse questioning it, only fans doing.


Show me even one statement remotely implying from any One Piece character that Mihawk might indeed not be WSS.

 

[DonWick]

I disagree with the logic but the core of it is pretty simple

Zoro fans believe that any swordsman without a black blade is automatically inferior to any swordsman with a black blade

The entire argument hinges on what it actually takes to forge your blade black. If Oda reveals that it requires absolute peak unrivaled haki in order to forge one then the Mihawk top X all time arguments make sense

If not then the entire Mihawk = strongest swordsman ever agenda crumbles to bits. Mind you, he’ll still be strong and > Shanks

He just wouldn’t be the greatest swordsman to ever walk the Earth

Obviously Zoro fans would prefer the latter since Zoro is a lock to surpass Mihawk

Thank you so they are doing all of this because Mihawk has a black blade, i genuinely thought they were doing it because of the title.

 

[сука]

I’m pretty sure Zoro just wants to be the WGS which only requires him to defeat Mihawk. None of that has anything to do with Xebec.

Condom just wants to be pirate king, it's not like he HAS to become the strongest pirate ever

 

[ShishioIsBack]

I’m pretty sure Zoro just wants to be the WGS which only requires him to defeat Mihawk. None of that has anything to do with Xebec.

I am pretty sure you are slow af because Zoro literally said he wants be strongest ever and even if he didn't Zoro surpassing Xebec is as logical as Luffy surpassing Roger.

Unless you think Luffy never will as Roger is not alive??

 

[DonWick]

Condom just wants to be pirate king, it's not like he HAS to become the strongest pirate ever

He doesn’t and likely won’t. You do realize that I don’t care if Luffy doesn’t become too 1 right? I currently have BB and Shanks > Luffy. I have a few others above him to.

 

[LolonoisZolo]

Bingo

Nah what people don't get about what MF Mihawk was saying despite the fact that it was stated in other times is that a Yonko by definition is ''strong'' in the sense of having an army that would throw their lives to save him (just like an emperor irl).
Now the emperor himself can be very strong and maybe even the strongest of his army but that's not what an emperor is known for. An emperor is known for having an empire and army/armies.
Going back to MF, Mihawk sent a random slash at WB and what happens ? Jozu known for being one of the strongest subordinates of WB threw himself in the way.
What does this tell us ? That WB is indeed the stongest since you have to go through a gauntlet of very strong individuals to have a chance to fight him.
We saw it with WB, with BM, with Kaido and every emperor had strong individuals throwing themselves to ''save'' their emperor.

 

[сука]

I currently have BB and Shanks > Luffy. I have a few others above him to.

How is your current scaling relevant to EoS strength?

 

[DonWick]

Bingo what?
He is speaking a load of trash

Whitebeard himself admitted he is not WSS
Mihawk said true distance between us (everyone else in the world) and that man seems very small --> That is actual translation if you go word by word, not true distance between us and that man


And Whitebeard's title and timelines around it are the most messed up. He himself was shown as equal to Whitebeard yet some magazines, DBs etc say he was WSM in Roger's time.

Mihawk has be consistently shown as stronger than Shanks and not once has Shanks been given a break.

When they met, he called Shanks one armed has been
Data book says Mihawk > Shanks
Mihawk's bounty says Mihawk > Shanks
Narrative around Mihawk and Shanks says Mihawk > Shanks

Roger and Whitebeard always have always the world "equal" and not "Whitebeard superior" associated between theme.

Doesn’t matter WB was WSM so based on yall logic he should be stronger than every pirate ever right? Joyboy, Mihawk, Roger, Xebec, etc. regardless of if he was around. Also you’re post is just wrong I just don’t feel like dissecting it because you already know it.

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How is your current scaling relevant to EoS strength?

It’s not, I’m just saying that to say I could care less if Luffy becomes top 1 or not. A lot of people believe that i take insult to Luffy being weaker than others, I’m telling you that it doesn’t matter. The only person he has to surpass is Roger.

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I am pretty sure you are slow af because Zoro literally said he wants be strongest ever and even if he didn't Zoro surpassing Xebec is as logical as Luffy surpassing Roger.

Unless you think Luffy never will as Roger is not alive??

This is why I don’t debate with you. You call me slow yet your post makes zero sense. Luffy has to surpass Roger because Roger is his goal. Xebec has nothing to do with Zoro or Mihawk. Zoro only has to surpass Mihawk.

I’m not saying anything different for either character.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Doesn’t matter WB was WSM so based on yall logic he should be stronger than every pirate ever right? Joyboy, Mihawk, Roger, Xebec, etc. regardless of if he was around. Also you’re post is just wrong I just don’t feel like dissecting it because you already know it.

Has whitebeard ever been said to be stronger thsn Rogee directly beyond title like Mihawk > Shanks??

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Doesn’t matter WB was WSM so based on yall logic he should be stronger than every pirate ever right? Joyboy, Mihawk, Roger, Xebec, etc. regardless of if he was around. Also you’re post is just wrong I just don’t feel like dissecting it because you already know it.

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It’s not, I’m just saying that to say I could care less if Luffy becomes top 1 or not. A lot of people believe that i take insult to Luffy being weaker than others, I’m telling you that it doesn’t matter. The only person he has to surpass is Roger.

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This is why I don’t debate with you. You call me slow yet your post makes zero sense. Luffy has to surpass Roger because Roger is his goal. Xebec has nothing to do with Zoro or Mihawk. Zoro only has to surpass Mihawk.

I’m not saying anything different for either character.

How can roger be his goal when roher is not eben alive??

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Doesn’t matter WB was WSM so based on yall logic he should be stronger than every pirate ever right? Joyboy, Mihawk, Roger, Xebec, etc. regardless of if he was around. Also you’re post is just wrong I just don’t feel like dissecting it because you already know it.

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It’s not, I’m just saying that to say I could care less if Luffy becomes top 1 or not. A lot of people believe that i take insult to Luffy being weaker than others, I’m telling you that it doesn’t matter. The only person he has to surpass is Roger.

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This is why I don’t debate with you. You call me slow yet your post makes zero sense. Luffy has to surpass Roger because Roger is his goal. Xebec has nothing to do with Zoro or Mihawk. Zoro only has to surpass Mihawk.

I’m not saying anything different for either character.

Xebec is swordsmanship in purest manner is hyped to be renowned and all his feats came through that particular fighting style. Him vs Herald, him vs everyone he has defeated.

And Mihawk is known as Pinnacle in that fighting style.
That is why there is room for Mihawk > Herald

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

lmao @DonWick in real time how silly that fanbase is at times

 

[soupongo]

They should be and Mihawk's title fights scrutiny the strongest as all encounters of Mihawk with Shanks he is shown as above Shanks
-Their Meeting
-Data Books
-Bounty
-Narrative
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Yeah, but that´s just one swordsman. Without his title, we wouldn´t really know how he compares to other top swordsman in verse.

The black blade and Strongest Blade ever is something no other swordsman has either
The main character who is fighting to be strongest swordsman ever, an absolute strength not some restricted skill is gunning for Mihawk.
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Zoro was also gunning for Kaido, and describing him as the strongest in the world lol, with Kidd and Killer talking about him as the strongest pirate. By that logic, would you assume Kaido>Mihawk? And Zoro hasn´t said anything about being the greatest ever since like, chapter 5 or whatever, when he was like 7, lol.

Yes we ca scrutinize Mihawk, Whitebeard and Kaido's titles but among three Mihawk is the only one iron clad with no one in-verse questioning it, only fans doing.


Show me even one statement remotely implying from any One Piece character that Mihawk might indeed not be WSS.

To what extent is anyone in the story actually discussing his title though? It´s not like Nusjuro, Garling, Fujitora and Xebecs ghost all host a weekly podcast where they discuss how Mihawk is the strongest swordsman in the world. We don´t really know how any top swordsman in the story view his title.

 

[AER15]

The same fandom believed Zoro was going to kill Kaido

 

[Rivaille]

Nah he got a point

Wb was wsm and wsp while mohawk was in his prime and the wss.

Meaning wb > mohawk

And mohawk's own reaction in mf confirms this


So if you put mohawk > rocks, then wb is also > rocks. Which means Roger and garp are also > rocks.

We know that's not true. Meaning, the mohawk > rocks agenda is retarded.

It is pretty obvious by now that Oda will retcon Mihawk’s powerlevel in relation to WB.
-Either by saying that Mihawk got stronger during the timeskip
-Either by just give him feats that surpass WB’s.

It is not like Oda cares about this kind of consistency which is why I have a hard time understanding why some you guys are still clinging to MF to judge Mihawk’s powerlevel.

 

[DemarIkh]

Plz use “WSS” as it was intended

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Zoro was also gunning for Kaido, and describing him as the strongest in the world lol, with Kidd and Killer talking about him as the strongest pirate. By that logic, would you assume Kaido>Mihawk? And Zoro hasn´t said anything about being the greatest ever since like, chapter 5 or whatever, when he was like 7, lol.

Zoro called him "so called strongest in the world" bro