General & Others Why is Oda taking so much break especially considering what he produces on average?

[zaman]

I mean, take a look at most manwha writter. Them draw 100+ pages with color each week, and usually don't take a pause for years unless serious disease.
Oda is on the lower end even among mangaka when it's about what is the quality and the quantity of a chapter produced - take a look at Kingdom to have a comparizon, both more pages, and more text and better drawn. Not only that, but usually each two weeks he takes a break. Why is everybody pissing on hiatus masters but never on Oda who has against him his pace which is not the case for these hiatus masters - for example Hxh which never felt slow in the animation at least.


I mean, even the pace, even the publication's regularity, even the quantity of the chapter ( ie amount of pages drawn and amount of text ) and to an extent even the quality of the chapter - the drawing mainly which is at best very average - can be forgiven, if only Oda gives us enough food for the mind, enough suspense, enough interesting stuff, but for years, post time skip we yet know nothing about this universe that is going on for nearly 25 years, for example. He is seriously joking with us.


It's such a pain in the A to see this, and nobody does anything nor thinks about it.
Idk what you all think about this.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

This has long been my biggest issue with OP. A lot of us feel like the quality keeps declining since the timeskip, which would be understandable if Oda produced a 17 page chapter every week. As it stands, we have a product that is visibly getting worse, and an author who has basically told his fan base that he wants this series to end, and he doesn’t seem to give a shit how we get there, as long as it’s fast. I understand his fatigue on an intellectual level...but some of us have read this series for more than 10 or 15 years, only in the interest of seeing whether or not he can stick the landing. With each chapter, and each corresponding break, I’m less and less convinced he can OR will. I’ll still give him the benefit of the doubt, but it has less to do with my faith in his abilities than it does a desire to keep my own sense of hope alive.

Also, before the usual white knights ride out here on Oda’s balls, please know that art is totally subjective. I can have a negative opinion about a thing I love without encroaching on your unconditional enjoyment of the same, so don’t come at me with why you think I’m wrong and I’ll do you the same courtesy. We shouldn’t all be sucking the author off just because he made us feel one way when we picked OP up, especially since some of us have had that spark stolen by that very guy’s recent output. You can respectfully defend your opinion without trashing someone else’s.

 

[zaman]

This has long been my biggest issue with OP. A lot of us feel like the quality keeps declining since the timeskip, which would be understandable if Oda produced a 17 page chapter every week. As it stands, we have a product that is visibly getting worse, and an author who has basically told his fan base that he wants this series to end, and he doesn’t seem to give a shit how we get there, as long as it’s fast. I understand his fatigue on an intellectual level...but some of us have read this series for more than 10 or 15 years, only in the interest of seeing whether or not he can stick the landing. With each chapter, and each corresponding break, I’m less and less convinced he can OR will. I’ll still give him the benefit of the doubt, but it has less to do with my faith in his abilities than it does a desire to keep my own sense of hope alive.

Also, before the usual white knights ride out here on Oda’s balls, please know that art is totally subjective. I can have a negative opinion about a thing I love without encroaching on your unconditional enjoyment of the same, so don’t come at me with why you think I’m wrong and I’ll do you the same courtesy. We shouldn’t all be sucking the author off just because he made us feel one way when we picked OP up, especially since some of us have had that spark stolen by that very guy’s recent output. You can respectfully defend your opinion without trashing someone else’s.

Perfectly said tbh. I agree with it, i've been a fan since at least 2005 when it was on tv and ended at arlong park, the innoncence, the originality, the dealing with the major thematics, were brilliant. Now despite beeing the most sold author, the most bankable, despite taking more breaks, despite beeing way further in the scenario and thus for us to expect more serious matters to come, yet we have this feeling that he is actually literally playing with our feelings. And us, old fans, prefer by far that One piece literally ends tomorrow, that we consume it as any low class fast food manga, if he stays like that, with the same quality, and even quantity produced, sincerely....

What made us love OP was the universe, and the main driving forces of the protagonist and the thematics dealt with, not how it is now...

And yes, only non mature individuals believe that you can't appreaciate a work if you criticize it. But without well done criticism, well, are we anything else than lobotomised individuals.?

 

[Kromage911]

I mean, take a look at most manwha writter. Them draw 100+ pages with color each week, and usually don't take a pause for years unless serious disease.
Oda is on the lower end even among mangaka when it's about what is the quality and the quantity of a chapter produced - take a look at Kingdom to have a comparizon, both more pages, and more text and better drawn. Not only that, but usually each two weeks he takes a break. Why is everybody pissing on hiatus masters but never on Oda who has against him his pace which is not the case for these hiatus masters - for example Hxh which never felt slow in the animation at least.

It's such a pain in the A to see this, and nobody does anything nor thinks about it.
Idk what you all think about this.

Maybe it's because of his age. Other than that, yes, I agree that Oda has been taking a lot more breaks lately.

I mean, take a look at most manwha writter. Them draw 100+ pages with color each week, and usually don't take a pause for years unless serious disease.

Agreed. I don't really like to compare such stuff but tbh, the difference is actually huge. People say, ''Manhwas' art suck'' or ''It just looks good because of the colour'', etc. I highly disagree with them. The art in some of the weekly manhwas is gorgeous (obviously, not comparable to that of monthly manga series like OPM) in there own right. And the chapters are actually fucking long, sometimes too long.

Tbh, Oda has made people addicted to this goddamn wonderful series and knows that he can do anything he wants without the fear of losing even a tiny bit of his readership. The guy is smart.

 

[zaman]

Maybe it's because of his age. Other than that, yes, I agree that Oda has been taking a lot more breaks lately.


Agreed. I don't really like to compare such stuff but tbh, the difference is actually huge. People say, ''Manhwas' art suck'' or ''It just looks good because of the colour'', etc. I highly disagree with them. The art in some of the weekly manhwas is gorgeous (obviously, not comparable to that of monthly manga series like OPM) in there own right. And the chapters are actually fucking long, sometimes too long.

Tbh, Oda has made people addicted to this goddamn wonderful series and knows that he can do anything he wants without the fear of losing even a tiny bit of his readership. The guy is smart.

agree. funniest or saddest part is that... well.... if you tell me now to read for the first time one piece - and forgetting about the fact that i'm and old fan - from the beginning, and you give me a glimpse of the current chapters, i'll probably drop it soon, and so will do most people tbh. He is smart yes, but also very lucky, he shouldn't be pushing his luck too far.
And, yes i agree about the manwha stuff, but we have to be fair, 99/100 of manwha are literally hopeless in their scenario and it's really low tier, beside may be TOG, but we can't deny how much they work hard. Ironically, japanese people are also known to be hard workers....

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

If you watched Gintama, and you saw Sorachi scenes as a gorilla, you'd know the reason Lol

Just appreciate his work, and don't expect him to work for you... he's a man who's drawing for his own... if he wants to take breaks, it's his work, not your work!
You all get the chapter for free now on Mangaplus translated officially even, what more you all need!?

I don't even complain about Hiatus x Hiatus, I just troll but generally it's his god damn manga!

He can feel lazy from time to time, and want a break Lol, that's a normal human, not a machine

 

[Garp the Fist]

"Shock as wildly successful author in his mid-forties accepts time off."

As if anyone here would do any different. Boss calls you into your office, says "hey, you've brought in a shit load of money for us, your not getting any younger, maybe take some time every three weeks, recover, spend some time with the family?"

I'd bite his fucking hand off for that.

Yes, the recent breaks have been annoying, but he's told us why they're happening. You may have noticed something in the news about something called Covid.

Also Oda's art is outstanding week after week. We have never got from him some of the half finished sketches that Black Clover, MHA or HxH have printed.

 

[Calypso]

Because he is just a human too and we don't know exactly how his health is atm.
We know that his doctor told Oda to take more care about his health. I dont think that Oda takes these breaks just for fun or for trolling us.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

"Shock as wildly successful author in his mid-forties accepts time off."

As if anyone here would do any different. Boss calls you into your office, says "hey, you've brought in a shit load of money for us, your not getting any younger, maybe take some time every three weeks, recover, spend some time with the family?"

I'd bite his fucking hand off for that.

Yes, the recent breaks have been annoying, but he's told us why they're happening. You may have noticed something in the news about something called Covid.

Also Oda's art is outstanding week after week. We have never got from him some of the half finished sketches that Black Clover, MHA or HxH have printed.

Imagine if your boss let you take two weeks out of every month off while you’re helming one of the most sprawling works of fiction in history and you refuse to let anyone else assist you in polishing the product. My corporate desk job wouldn’t allow that, but if you really don’t see the difference between that and Oda’s position, I’m not sure how to explain it in a way you’ll comprehend. It’s a business, but he’s also telling us a story. Not our fault he made it too unwieldy; now that we’re all here, you really think it’s irrational to expect better from a man who GAVE us “better” for so many years??

 

[zaman]

If you watched Gintama, and you saw Sorachi scenes as a gorilla, you'd know the reason Lol

Just appreciate his work, and don't expect him to work for you... he's a man who's drawing for his own... if he wants to take breaks, it's his work, not your work!
You all get the chapter for free now on Mangaplus translated officially even, what more you all need!?

I don't even complain about Hiatus x Hiatus, I just troll but generally it's his god damn manga!

He can feel lazy from time to time, and want a break Lol, that's a normal human, not a machine

That's why the impact of fans incensitivity should be greater, but most people are acting like inherent sheep.

This argument of it's "his" and not your, is poor tbh.

For example, Amazon is bezos society, does it means that whatever he does we can't say nothing because it's "his" ? It's a more materialistic approach than purely a manga, but if one is able to detach from materiality, he'll see the similarities. Because, yes, for as we are, we'r linked to op for most for so long, and want it to get real, to be well done, for us and for him, and saying that it's "his", isn't helping anybody nor contributing to any decent discussion to be fair.

 

[SaintBellkin]

Maybe the next Chapter is going to be something else , Since its where all the Fights start and all that

 

[zaman]

"Shock as wildly successful author in his mid-forties accepts time off."

As if anyone here would do any different. Boss calls you into your office, says "hey, you've brought in a shit load of money for us, your not getting any younger, maybe take some time every three weeks, recover, spend some time with the family?"

I'd bite his fucking hand off for that.

Yes, the recent breaks have been annoying, but he's told us why they're happening. You may have noticed something in the news about something called Covid.

Also Oda's art is outstanding week after week. We have never got from him some of the half finished sketches that Black Clover, MHA or HxH have printed.

You forget one major point :
It's him who decided to stretch to hell and back his work, due to his success in the fanbase, not "us" - well we did our part in that matter but indirectly. So if we'r stuck in this aspect of him beeing in his mid-forties and wanting to take a rest, it's due to him.
A good manga isn't about lenght, it's about quality.If really he wanted to rest, he should have gone straight to the point, at least to an extent, arcs like dressrossa for example were way too long and fairly marginally meaningless for the plot, yet he did it.It's been near 24 years that it's going on, he claims that it will last for only 4 years, but yet he is taking breaks after breaks, and we yet know nothing about the whole universe, nor is even wano arc coming to a possible end anytime soon...

 

[Red Admiral]

give the man a fucking break people ... he is killing himself cause of writing this story

Oda is not our bitch

we are on chapter 990 ....

 

[Fuckthis3]

No paragraph needed cus he the Boss and he want to

 

[Garp the Fist]

Imagine if your boss let you take two weeks out of every month off while you’re helming one of the most sprawling works of fiction in history and you refuse to let anyone else assist you in polishing the product. My corporate desk job wouldn’t allow that, but if you really don’t see the difference between that and Oda’s position, I’m not sure how to explain it in a way you’ll comprehend. It’s a business, but he’s also telling us a story. Not our fault he made it too unwieldy; now that we’re all here, you really think it’s irrational to expect better from a man who GAVE us “better” for so many years??

I think it's completely irrational, yes, and doesn't show a shred of empathy or even basic understanding of the writing process.

Complain about the work, fine, drop it, fine, but all this spoilt bitching about him taking breaks? Give me a break.

You forget one major point :
It's him who decided to stretch to hell and back his work, due to his success in the fanbase, not "us" - well we did our part in that matter but indirectly. So if we'r stuck in this aspect of him beeing in his mid-forties and wanting to take a rest, it's due to him.
A good manga isn't about lenght, it's about quality.If really he wanted to rest, he should have gone straight to the point, at least to an extent, arcs like dressrossa for example were way too long and fairly marginally meaningless for the plot, yet he did it.It's been near 24 years that it's going on, he claims that it will last for only 4 years, but yet he is taking breaks after breaks, and we yet know nothing about the whole universe, nor is even wano arc coming to a possible end anytime soon...

So what do you want?

Him to stop taking breaks? Quality then suffers drastically. Reality is, Oda takes the time needed to get the chapters out as often as he can.

Oda to just fly through to the ending? Mass complaints. Ruined the ending. Rushed too much. Fans aren't happy.

Yes, nobody held a gun to Oda's head and forced him to expand the series so much from the original five year plan, but here's the thing- that's been a rather successful approach.

 

[Finalbeta]

The unfunny thing is that as an old man health is even more of utmost importance

I once read an article stating this man would only get 3 hours of sleep a day per regular

He has hit a point of no return but the manga is also closer to its finish

 

[Electricmastro]

Oda is now a 45 year old man who has been consistently drawing this series since he was about 22, and apparently tends to exhaust and starve himself in developing the series as it progresses, reasoning that writers tend to come up with the best ideas if they push themselves the most. That, along with me last having heard that his sleeping schedule consists of sleeping four hours a day (it was previously three hours a day), then that just inclines me to feel that we have only so much room to critique on how many breaks he takes.

 

[Rivaille]

like dressrossa for example were way too long and fairly marginally meaningless for the plot

Wait...what? How Dressrosa is meaningless for the plot?

OT: Maybe « no ones is doing nothing about it » because except for a vocal minority people are satisfied with Oda’s work
But I guess it is hard to comprehend when you think that people who are satisfied by the manga are sheep

Yes you can criticize something you like but you can also just stop reading it.
Take a few years break than wait for the manga to end to read everything in one go.
If you do not take pleasure in reading One Piece anymore, stop reading it. I do not see how it is hard to do.

 

[Just a member]

There should be many factors. First of all he was and is costantly delivering OP since 1997 then there is not only art and the number of words in a manga but also the plot and of course all the cured details in.. Everything (places, people, their characterization, interactions.. And make every single thing fall in the greater picture almost perfectly) you will never found in more blunt mangas like kingdom but even others.

Just to make a random example in the last chapter it was noted how Zoro switched the side of his swords from the right side (wgere he kept his swords for all of Wano pretty much) to the left one and that in Japan tradition means a samurai is ready to fight. Just a random small detail among an ocean of them you will never ever find in your averag manga.

Sure OP after all these years is bound to be somewhat redundant and Oda in the post time skip changed his preskip formula and gave way less space to the SHs to focus on other characters yet to say Oda is slacking is ridicoulous.

Then we don't know how he organizes his work, does he want to do all by himself, like he most likely does, or maybe he hires people to at least help to draw?
Then the manhwas are for sure long and have a lot of pages yet a page of a manhwa is paragonable to not a manga page but just a manga panel. And while there is for sure heavy cure of art detail and even color the stories are most of the time mediocre. Let's take Solo leveling, the most famous manhwa most likely: it has a great artist but the story which is based upon it is crap. So to do that you just need a great artist since the story to base it upon is already done, the dude doing that can not even be defined a proper manga/manhwa writer.

Anyway at everybody his own. There are a ton of manga/manhwas out there, enjoy them, even for me there are mangas I enjoy now more than OP but don't go saying Oda is slacking compared to other manga/manhwa authors. Or, who knows, maybe age is taking its toll on him but not forget he reached almost 1000 chapters and we are not talking about detective conan which every chapter is always the same soup..

 

[zaman]

Wait...what? How Dressrosa is meaningless for the plot?

OT: Maybe « no ones is doing nothing about it » because except for a vocal minority people are satisfied with Oda’s work
But I guess it is hard to comprehend when you think that people who are satisfied by the manga are sheep

Yes you can criticize something you like but you can also just stop reading it.
Take a few years break than wait for the manga to end to read everything in one go.
If you do not take pleasure in reading One Piece anymore, stop reading it. I do not see how it is hard to do.

The last part is true, you'r right, but it's more about the sinceriity of an old fan that i'm talking about.

For the part about dressrossa, tbh, i didn't say that it was an useless arc per say, but that the duration of it was way too much;

There were very few important moment that were relevant to the plot in this arc, that certaintly didn't desserve to be the longest arc.